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People need to realize the timing of this as well. Samsung is set to introduce their newest flagship phone tomorrow. This is Apple's way of crapping on it. It screams desperation if you ask me. I wish Apple would focus on their own issues and stop worrying about what Samsung and Android. The fact they even take the time to talk about it speaks volumes.
 
"iOS devices don't work seamlessly together" and they come from the same vendor. An Analyst said.
Analyst are useless. I have 4 apple devices including two iOS devices. They all work seamlessly, if i download an App it shows up on my computer and is available on my other devices too. the same with music or iCloud docs. My texts and email too. I can start a conversation on my computer then go to the store and it continues on my iPhone without thinking about it. When I charge my phone it automatically backs up to my computer, and not just the contacts but everything. Seamlessly. I kept my 3GS which is still compatible with the latest OS when I got the 5 to use as a Apple TV and game controller. Try that on an OS that most of the new sales are on a two year old OS that is not compatible with the latest apps.
 
Although i love apple products like mad i do feel they lack the customization android offers, rock on ios7!
 
The continual fact that they refuse to release sales #s just shows their sales aren't good. And the fact that over 43% of Android users are using a 2 year old OS is very telling. It means that their new phones are not selling well and older lower end models are.

Android is given out for free so there are no sales numbers. If you're talking about OEM sales numbers, those are out there

What do you think it going to happen if/when Apple enters the lower end market?

Apple will profit off it. That market is theirs to own. Long term it might lead to brand erosion but who knows
 
Yes and thats why your getting your ass kicked by Android.

I have owned the S3, Nexus 4 and the Note 2 and i can tell you fragmentation hasnt hurt my experience one bit.

PC's are fragmented to hell and they dont suffer. In fact OSX cant perform a single benchmark better than PC in any games.

Dont tell consumers its for their benefit you make the hardware and software. Its for your profit only

Why are you talking about benchmarks? Nobody here is discussing benchmarks - they are completely irrelevant to the topic.
 
A hater is going to hate...of course an Apple representative is going to paint the opposition in a negative light. I wonder if he's actually owned and used an Android device and is speaking from experience or just going with the stock knocks against the Android line?
 
Apple is focusing on it...has been for the last months since they fired Forstall and installed Ive as the head of UI design for iOS/OSX.

As for Android, they are just spreading a lot of false information.

The continual fact that they refuse to release sales #s just shows their sales aren't good. And the fact that over 43% of Android users are using a 2 year old OS is very telling. It means that their new phones are not selling well and older lower end models are.

What do you think it going to happen if/when Apple enters the lower end market?

If you truly believe that Android isn't selling well then you are a lost cause. Android devices are everywhere and selling.
 
Everyone else has caught up to and in many cases surpassed the technology and user interface so it's time to copy good old M$ and scare people away from the competition with the FUD of "fragmentation," "cheap," "isn't single vendor technology." That last one is straight from Microsoft's playbook.

So much for Apple being "Different."

Cynical much? Convenient how you skip over so many advances of iOS and Apple's offerings just to make your point. iCloud is a HUGE advancement that offers a seamless cross-device experience and access to content. Siri wasn't created by Apple, but Apple will give her balls. Apple Maps may have been a launch failure, but it's going to advance way past Google Maps over the next few years in terms of quality and experience. The hardware designs in iOS devices and Macs is a step above what is offered by the competition when you look at the whole package - build quality, reliability over time, etc.

Sure, you can pick this or pick that and say "see? look, Apple isn't innovating", but you'll be missing the bigger picture of what they are really accomplishing. Sure, they may not come out with models as frequently, but does that mean they are not providing a great experience and quality products? It's just a different frequency of operation that doesn't fit your expectation, that's all.
 
PC's are fragmented to hell and they dont suffer.

If I had to choose between having to purchase a Mac at full retail value, or being given any pc I could wish for, I'd buy a Mac.

I'd buy the Mac soley for the issues you are denying
 
Hmmmm

Does being part of an un-fragmented system mean you don't any new features for 4 years besides half baked Siri and Maps??

I have iOS 6 and I also feel I am on a 4 year old version of software.

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The continual fact that they refuse to release sales #s just shows their sales aren't good.

Who is not giving out sale numbers? Google? They can't Android is open source, anyone can download it and install it on their device. Phone manufacturers are giving out sales numbers. Just look past quarterly reports from Samsung and HTC.
 
Oh, wow! Is Apple that desperate?

Apple is expected to unveil the iPhone 5S later this year, which will share the same design of the iPhone 5. This pattern of redesigning the iPhone once every two years will end up killing the product. Samsung unveils a new design every year, and that's a competitive advantage.
 
Android does have backup and restore, I use it. It's SnapPea. You install it on your computer and your phone, it automatically syncs your SMS, photos, documents, videos that are created on your phone to your computer. When you download videos/music, it'll auto sync it to your phone as well, if you are on the same network.

Android features that Apple doesn't have? Too many to list 'em all.. but off the top of my head:

1) 1 click to show traffic and how much time it would take for the user to get from current location to the said destination. i use the traffic widget every day to see time to work/home/etc.

2) swipe and a click to turn on/off wifi/BT/brightness, etc.

3) expandable storage (hello 64GB microsd for 40 bucks), removable batteries (huzzah, you have a choice on which phone you want to carry, and I've chosen Note 2, with its gigantic batteries AND removable batteries!)

i have about 20GB of videos of my daughter, what, you are asking me to choose which videos i want of my daughter and i have to pick between that and a couple of games that i'd like to play if I only buy the 16GB version of the phone? F and U.

4) big screen, it's like I have a portable video player/computer/phone all at once. it's not like I make that many phone calls anyway.

5) higher resolution (720p vs umm.. NOT 720p). i'm sure when Note 3 comes out, it'll be 1080p.

6) WAY better keyboard. If you still think Apple keyboard rocks.. well you need to get out of 2007 and see the light.. Swiftkey/Swipe blows apple keyboard out of the water.

....... I can keep on going but you get the point.

1. Maps?
2. Tap settings and wifi is there ????
3. Not android feature but a handset feature, nexus 4 doesn't have microsd nor removable battery
4. iPad mini ???
5. True
6. Errrr I used swype on Symbian back before android it's NOT an android feature
Stop spouting fud
 
Lets just say the only reason im still using iphone is due the integration bw mac and ios... thats it. Im basically using google apps for everything on my iphone, which is sad. for some reason, apple stopped developing new features and more so on OSX

other than that, android (ever since ice cream sandwich came out) has more features than iOS. Thats the truth.
 
Hmmmm

Does being part of an un-fragmented system mean you don't any new features for 4 years besides half baked Siri and Maps??

I have iOS 6 and I also feel I am on a 4 year old version of software.

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HAHA... SO true... But it says Apple so it is bestest. lol
 
The lack of real support is likely one reason the 4S outsells the S III, and will likely outsell the S IV after some initial upgrades. Apple must be careful in updating iOS. The satisfaction and reliability consumer ratings have iOS far ahead of Android. People love iOS the way it is, whatever they do, they better keep it simple.
 
Dont tell consumers its for their benefit you make the hardware and software. Its for your profit only

Not true. If you don't understand why Apple makes both the hardware and the software then you just plain don't get it. It's for the complete control of the experience. Apple thinks you should use their products a specific way, and if you don't like it, use something else.

Apple is not about profit, they are about controlling the user experience 100% of the time. Period.

That is why even when they were about to collapse and hired Jobs back, he didn't compromise on the product in order to make more money. He just wanted to make a good 100% controlled product.

Some people here will just never get it....

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I wouldn't expect Apple's top shill to say anything different.

Funny thing is, that stuff doesn't bother consumers any more now than it did when Apple's former top shill was alive. Android just continues to outsell iOS, and continues to widen the gap.

Except that market share is not translating into the bottom line for Google or Samsung. Apple's stock decline has to do with analyst expectations and nothing to do with Apple's performance which has been record-shattering. I don't see Samsung shattering any of its past records, or anyone else's for that matter.

You can flood the market with free, crappy handsets and get the most market share, but where are the profits to rival Apple? Nowhere. Look at Amazon's Kindle... undercutting Apple on price, but can't sell any compared to iPad Mini.
 
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