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Phil Schiller Says iPad Pro Can Both Supplement and Replace the Mac

0837990 said:
The iPad can easily replace casual computing needs (web browsing, email, online purchasing, online banking, facetime, messaging and so on).

But as soon as you want to create something, you'll still need a computer to do it efficiently, and to have access to professional software with an efficient workflow: Photoshop, Lightroom, Premiere, Capture One, Final Cut Pro X, XCode, Visual Studio, Logic Pro X, ProTools, all types of software development (Perl, Python, C++, C#, C, Swift, etc).
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Depends on what you're creating.
Excel/Word the iPad is still a nice choice
Programming - go over to the iPad forum and it seems there are a number of developers who like to write code on the iPAd
Lightroom - Adobe has been improving LR for iOS and you can see most of the focus is iOS and not desktop
Photostop - Likewise with my comments above and there are other competitors that have some really polished products for iOS

Yes, there are many things a laptop/desktop can do that the iPad cannot but I don't believe the consumption vs. creation demarkation is clear as it used to be. That line has blurred over the years. I for one still need a laptop/desktop because my iPad cannot do what I want it too but I do see the iPad gaining as time marches on
 
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AgentAnonymous said:
An iPad is not a computer replacement. Not even close. It is a toy best suited for light media consumption.
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If I want, I can get a VDI session going on my iPad Pro giving me a full Windows desktop & the iOS Microsoft Office apps are more than good enough for doing work on, if I need to.

The iPad is just another way of getting stuff done & it's as good as you want it to be.
 
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I believe the PRO as in iPad Pro means it can be used by business professionals for their work. Yes it cannot be used for some specialist tasks, but for the things that most people do for work, such as email, document creation, spreadsheets, using web applications, etc. the iPad Pro will do the job fine and be a real pleasure to use unless you are wedded to the use of a mouse (I personally prefer a touch screen)

I have an iMac which I use in my office, but at least 95% of those uses I can do equally well on my iPad Pro and do when out of the office travelling - and I am a director running an international business.
 
flat five said:
macOS will be around for quite some time.
there are millions of people who are using macOS professionally with software designed for macOS..
it's basically impossible for Apple to ditch macOS without giving a 5+ year heads up.
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I agree that it will be around for some time, but I would be willing to bet that Apple are working on a potential replacement. Runs on their own chips, more secure, locked down app store, etc. Similar to iOS, but built for a desktop environment with point and click.
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Larry-K said:
Phil's said a lot of things.

I don't recall any being true.
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How is what he is saying not true? The iPad can replace a computer for some people, but not all people. This is false?
 
When my youngest daughter is old enough to use a laptop, I will be happy to dump the last iPad my family has and go all in with iPhone/MacBook combo. I am there, my wife is there, my older daughter is there, just hoping the Air 2 will last enough to avoid buying one as an interim device for my younger one
 
There are billions of Pro's (with the inflated Apple definition - as it suits them better...)
But we customers have a choice: we either are imbeciles or unhappy (which is worse)
 
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Steve121178 said:
If I want, I can get a VDI session going on my iPad Pro giving me a full Windows desktop & the iOS Microsoft Office apps are more than good enough for doing work on, if I need to.

The iPad is just another way of getting stuff done & it's as good as you want it to be.
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Of course. I believe there’s even a way to get an AWS instance (full PC Windows environment ) running on an iPad too.
 
Phil is right when he says the two devices are needed for different functionality. If iOS could be optimized for an iPad... then the two devices are interchangeable. Current iPad iOS is improved for a more desktop like system but it can't replace what my computer can do, it's still just an oversized phone.

I also can't imagine traveling with a iPad is much of an advantage of ease compared with a macbook. Both are light, compact and require one wire to bring along for charging. Again I guess it depends on how one needs to use the device.
 
It all depends on what works best in a person's situation. It is good to hear this acknowledgement from Phil. I'm the supplement type.

It would be nice if Apple continued to flow with this line of thinking concerning iPad in their ads and marketing. Interesting read. It is good to hear the brass acknowledge this and let us know a bit more behind the curtain.

Now about the Mac Mini...
 
iPadDad said:
To say that an iPad Pro cannot replace a PC/notebook in 2017 is embarrassing!!!
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“What’s a computer?”
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Why not sync to the cloud, easier, no external this or that or hardware etc #youarelivinginthepast
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The problem here is not the device, but the user's attitude. There's so much you can do on an iPad for work.
My iPad 1 (WiFi + Cellular) paid itself within three months after I bought it. And that was back in 2010!
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NewdestinyX said:
Exactly. I’m amazed at how little people really know about the full capabilities of their iDevices.
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That usually happens when the person buys it just because their neighbor got one and they don't want to be left behind; but at the same time, are comfortable with their older devices and don't want to move forward.
 
Either Phil Schiller doesn't understand and is completely ignorant about the Mac and iPad lines or Schiller is being completely disingenuous and insincere. iPad Pro CAN NOT both supplement or replace the Mac. What a really poor comment by Phil. What a very poor marketing campaign by Apple.

Using iPad takes me at least 2.5-3x longer to complete just the basic tasks compared with Mac. And in many cases, iPad can't even accomplish any tasks that Mac can do.

Really disappointed in this deceptive marketing of Mac and iPad. In reality it just does not compute.
 
smacrumon said:
Either Phil Schiller doesn't understand and is completely ignorant about the Mac and iPad lines or Schiller is being completely disingenuous and insincere. iPad Pro CAN NOT both supplement or replace the Mac. What a really poor comment by Phil. What a very poor marketing campaign by Apple.

Using iPad takes me at least 2.5-3x longer to complete just the basic tasks compared with Mac. And in many cases, iPad can't even accomplish any tasks that Mac can do.

Really disappointed in this deceptive marketing of Mac and iPad. In reality it just does not compute.
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And that's just your opinion. Thank you, but others disagree.
 
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Amazing Iceman said:
And that's just your opinion. Thank you, but others disagree.
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Some may disagree, such as the marketing and sales teams at Apple?
It's not an opinion. It is a real life daily experience. iPad significantly slows down my workflow. Mac speeds it up. Every time.
 
Brammy said:
I do this all the time, actually. The keyboard commands are handy.
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I use them at times too due to the lack of mouse support. They are better than nothing, but not close to the control and speed one would get using a mouse.
 
richpjr said:
I use them at times too due to the lack of mouse support. They are better than nothing, but not close to the control and speed one would get using a mouse.
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First, great guitar in your profile pic. Suhrs are quality axes :)

For text input, I don't often use the mouse and prefer keyboard commands. That said, I do sometimes uses iOS's weird little trackpad-like thing for using the virtual keyboard as trackpad. Be very interesting to see if future versions of iOS and the ASK have a small trackpad on them.
 
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You see, I have also come across people who are okay with being slow (it blows my mind too) - for me, it has to be quick results so that I can move on to finish my next project. No iPad (iOS) can compete with a macOS device.

Well let me know when I can use Illustrator, Premiere Pro, Excel with Macros and listen to music all at the same time using the iPad.


smacrumon said:
Some may disagree, such as the marketing and sales teams at Apple?
It's not an opinion. It is a real life daily experience. iPad significantly slows down my workflow. Mac speeds it up. Every time.
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I have one. No it absolutely can not unless all you need a computer for is light tasks. Anything more advanced you can do on an iPad Pro, like video editing, is infinitely easier on a computer.
 
I am in IT and with the ipad and the remote desktop app, I can do most things. The problem is it is very difficult to do those things and would be much easier if I could just use a laptop. So I carry the macbook pro with me even though I only need it once or twice a month. If they would release a macbook pro with LTE then I could leave the ipad and be done with it. It basically a glorified hotspot for me.
 
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