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Normal for scratch's says Phil, hmmmm is it normal to rape the consumer on pricing? Granted they can buy else where but WTF Phil. I smell a lawsuit and protective covers being sent to all the iPhone 5 black case owners

Thats just fing lame on apples part
 
No, my car didn't have any of those issues after a week, but I'm sure that if, during that week, there had been a windy storm blowing branches and stuff around, or I had gone to a busy parking lot with carts careeming around, or I had done laundry and put my laundry basket on the trunk and dragged it off carelessly, it would have.

Just like in the first week of owning our iPhone 5's, if we carefully avoided keys, coins, Alan Alda, hard surfaces of tables, etc. that they'd be much nicer looking at the week's end.

The whole debate, and it's sad that there is one, comes down to whether or not one can properly put into context what this device is, what it's made of, the decision they made to purchase it, and the proper expectations one should have moving forward.

I can't reasonably agree, in any way whatsoever, with any one individual who expects this device to not succumb to scratching, denting, and scuffing from coming into contact with things that scratch, dent, and scuff it.

There is an obvious, somewhat unspoken, but real sense that a majority of people feel that this phone should somehow defy the laws of physics, matter and the general universe we agree we live in, just because it was made by Apple and is called "iPhone."

If we take off our Apple hats, and put on our human-being-living-in-the-21st-century hats, we can all easily agree that this is a thing, made of materials, and suffers damage and cosmetic markings just like anything else made of similar materials.
Thank you.
 
I bought the black model. I noticed two tiny little dings on the bezel. Just to little silver spots. I though they were little flakes of metal but then noticed it was where the black anodized paint on the bezel was missing. I'm pretty sure I didn't do it since I noticed it within minutes of taking off the protective plastic.
 
Because they are both objects that are made of metal and coated with something and are subject to use and abuse.

But SBG, it's a PHONE! Not a CAR! :eek:

Seriously, you'd think that because it's an iPhone that these people think it's made of special materials only used in Apple products. It's friggin' metal...
 
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Loved MG Siegler's post ... "Steve Jobs would have never shipped a phone that scuffs"

I wish they kept this form factor. It's still the most attractive iPhone ever designed. Well, maybe not the shiny metal, front bezel.
 
I want glass that doesn't break, cheap crappy looking chrome/plastic band that doesn't flake, aluminum that doesn't scratch, metal that doesn't dent, a 6 inch screen in a 3.5 inch body, I want my wifi signal to work for 6 miles and never drop out. I want a map that links to a real time camera and shows me walking down the street. Until then ill wait for the SG13 or the iPhone 12. Also a hover option so if I drop the phone it floats in mid air and never hits the ground Big fall Apple!! SJ would have made this happen if he had anything to do with this fail of a phone.

I still got the iPhone 5 though, because I'm an iSheep and was hypnotized in to getting nothing but a longer iPhone 4S do to Apple holding back supply and putting the thought of fake demand in my mind.

Scratches or not this is the best smartphone I've ever used. I'll get a skin for it and call it a day. Wrapsol for the win! Seriously people take better care of your stuff. And for the small few who got some issues outta the box, that stinks but you have the option to return it and get another one. 5,000,000 sold there are bound to be a few screwups that got by. Ever hear of a car recall? It happens, deal with it. Life isn't perfect and neither are our toys.
 
I preferred the look and durability of the glass back and my 4 and 4s but am blown away by the thinness and weight of my 5. Obviously this was mostly accomplished by eliminating the glass back. Good design and engineering is all about trade offs, when you chose option A you by default don't get option B. I'm very pleased with Apple's final product.
I'm not too concerned about scratching on the back because I tend to only look at the screen when using it, and if the screen is half as durable as it was on the 4/4s I have nothing to worry about.
 
When they used Gorilla Glass on the back, people complained that it broke and was heavy. Now that they use aluminum, people complain that it scratches. If they switch back to plastic, people will complain that it feels cheap.

Next year they'll switch to graham cracker rear panels and people will complain they're eating them 'cause they're too delicious.
 
Wow.. did he learn absolutely NOTHING from "You're holding it wrong."???

He did. He learned that no little or big screw up matters. People just continue to buy and live with iPhones - even if they drop calls, don't do maps too nicely, or scratch/break easily. It is only going to get better - scratching is better than shattering - he doesn't need to say anything.
 
This is ridiculous...buy a case if you don't want scratches

Seriously? Guess what? If you treated your MacBook like you treat your iPhone, it would also have scratches. It's aluminum...duh. Don't buy the slate coated phone then, keep the glass 4S or get the white version.

I used to want my products looking brand new all the time, but what's the point? You're going to spend all your time freaking out over a scratch instead of enjoying the functionality of the object. Get outside people....live your lives and don't sweat the small stuff :cool:
 
Screen scratched out of box

My screen was scratched right out of the box and I noticed when I got home. I know if I took back up to the ATT store they wouldnt believe me plus they didnt have anymore phones in stock. Plus my phone was having issues with the wifi connection. I had to do a soft reset to get it to work. Any thoughts and what I should do?
 
Should have made the phone from Tungsten Carbide or black Titanium, then people would complain about the price! Lol. Can't save em' all Hasslehoff.
 
Either apple goes back to gorilla glass when the new one comes out or...

Dont like scratches ? do what i do ! use a protector for the back of the phone im sure someone will come up with one

i agree, PARTIALLY. i do use a protection for my iphone 4, too. however, i don't want one of those permanent cases that make this nice piece of phone looking ugly and bulky. first you spent lots of money to get a light, thin phone, and then put a ugly protection case around it. and i'm sorry to say this, but 99% of the cases do look ugly.

i also bought a case for my macbook pro and immediately sold it, coz it sucked. i'd rather live with a few scratches on my laptop.
 
i have a black aluminum mt bike that doesn't have many scratches at all...and that is after 10-15 years use.

I thought anodized was supposed to make it stronger? does it just make it shinier?

(My bike is a matte black aluminum)

There is difference in what they use. They use more of a powder coating on bikes.
 
Expected, but disappointing. I wonder if they were planning on making it dyed liquid metal but were not able to perfect it or production yet. Probably now for the iPhone 5SR (iPhone 5 Scratch Resistant)
 
My screen was scratched right out of the box and I noticed when I got home. I know if I took back up to the ATT store they wouldnt believe me plus they didnt have anymore phones in stock. Plus my phone was having issues with the wifi connection. I had to do a soft reset to get it to work. Any thoughts and what I should do?

Should have taken it back immediately.
 
I had 2 marks right out of the box on my band. I took a sharpie to it and I cant see them anymore. However, this is terrible quality control. Let the user scratch it, not the Chinese assembly line...

My iPhone 5 Black had 1 scratch on the band right out of the box as well. I used the sharpie trick too. Still, this is the only $400 gadget I have ever purchased new that comes with free scuffs.

Truth is, in a year from now, even with a case, I'm sure a lot of black iPhone 5's are going to look like they've been to hell and back.

Missing the glass back / silver band

BigAndTasty
 
Normal for scratch's says Phil, hmmmm is it normal to rape the consumer on pricing? Granted they can buy else where but WTF Phil. I smell a lawsuit and protective covers being sent to all the iPhone 5 black case owners

Thats just fing lame on apples part

Rape on pricing?? That's ridiculous. Apple set a price and the consumer chose to buy it at that price. I chose to spend $200 + on the phone. I also understand that aluminum scratches, any metal does. Glass breaks. I didn't buy my Honda thinking it's indestructible, either.
 
I work for a company and we do a lot of metal coating. The anodizing will scratch, so what we do is clear coat it. If apple simply added a clear coat over the top of the part it would help with the scratching issue. To a point. It would take more pressure to get scratched.

They will be the next money making opp. Clear coating back of phones.
 
I wish they kept this form factor. It's still the most attractive iPhone ever designed. Well, maybe not the shiny metal, front bezel.

Ah, I gotta disagree. I think the first one was the ugliest one. At least the black iphone 5 doesn't have two very contrasting colors on the back and not even symmetrical. That large black bar on the top just looks like it had to be there, not cause they wanted it to be there (it looks like it was tacked on as a necessary evil). Plus honestly I prefer a black back (or at least a back that matches the front better).
 
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