I feel bad for them.Apple execs need to stop talking and start producing. At this rate their salaries might get cut by another $1M next year, and we know how tough that would be on them.
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Phil Schiller Says iPhone Was 'Earth-Shattering' Ten Years Ago and Remains 'Unmatched' Today
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I get a kick out of all you here. It seems people just bitch to bitch, especially on the internet. Always demanding something new and disappointed when it doesn't come fast enough. I still use apple products because I've tried them all from Windows Phones to android, and IOS still is after all these years the most solid and dependable OS. , The apps are still rock steady and usually stand quite apart from the same app on other platforms. The apple TV even has the better quality in apps and image quality than its rivals. The iPad has better scaling Tablet apps than the Android competition.
Look what you've got people it still works real damn well and for me its what i ask out of Apple Products
For all his faults, Steve Jobs was a true visionary. Apple has never been the same since his passing. Their innovation has suffered to the point where they no longer truly innovate.
With the 10th year of the iPhone they have the opportunity to really change the game again, but without Jobs at the helm I can't see it happening.
Apple is riding on the coattails of Steve Jobs memory. The iPhone of 10 years ago is irrelevant now. While it was iconic and game changing it was 10 years ago. Apple needs to start thinking outside the box they've put themselves in and 'think different'. They haven't done that in since Steve's passing.
Can't do anything else on the phone during incoming call like on the porcelain throne where it's inappropriate to answer but also rude to reject.
Can't put an active SSH session in the background for longer than 3 minutes without getting killed. Computer replacement my arse. iOS is still an iPod OS.
Yeah Siri is a joke. 90% of the things I ask it just shows me a wiki article or webpage.
"Here is something I found".
The rest of the time it's just clever easter eggs. "Is there a santa claus?"
Siri "those cookies dont eat themselves".
And Apple really needs to fix Siri so that it asks for confirmation before it dials a contact you have not spoken with in 5 years! This is one of the main reasons I avoid Siri. Because of the number of times it decided to dial a former client, at 1145pm at night when I want pizza near here. Not Patricia Norwich.
"Here is something I found".
The rest of the time it's just clever easter eggs. "Is there a santa claus?"
Siri "those cookies dont eat themselves".
And Apple really needs to fix Siri so that it asks for confirmation before it dials a contact you have not spoken with in 5 years! This is one of the main reasons I avoid Siri. Because of the number of times it decided to dial a former client, at 1145pm at night when I want pizza near here. Not Patricia Norwich.
While Cydia did provide some motivation it's 's
I think they are moving in that direction. They are slowly setting up the framework but doing it right takes time.
I would assume they will require developers to adhere to a certain standard to allow them to be default apps.
“I actually think the leaps in the later versions are as big and sometimes even bigger now,” he says. “I think our expectations are changing more, not the leaps in the products. If you look through every version—from the original iPhone to the iPhone 3G to the 4 to the 4S, you see great changes all throughout. You see screen size change from three and a half inch to four inch to four point seven and five point five. You see cameras going through incredible change, from the first camera that couldn’t shoot video, to then having both a front and a backside camera, to now three cameras with the stuff we’re doing, and with live photos and 4K video.”
Schiller is not thinking big enough. These are not revolutionary changes, these are refinements and hardware upgrades.
The App store was what revolutionzed the smart phone market.
Here are examples of what future revolutionary changes could look like:
- Wireless charging in your pocket and the iPhone acting wireless power supply to other wearables, such as glasses, watches, airpods, rings, tiles, shoes etc, when you are on the move.
- Be able to unfold the iPhone so you get a screen as large as an A4 paper.
- A Siri that you can have an actual conversation with, similar to a human
- Brain interface. no need to use you hands, just think and it will appear on the screen
Schiller is not thinking big enough. These are not revolutionary changes, these are refinements and hardware upgrades.
The App store was what revolutionzed the smart phone market.
Here are examples of what future revolutionary changes could look like:
- Wireless charging in your pocket and the iPhone acting wireless power supply to other wearables, such as glasses, watches, airpods, rings, tiles, shoes etc, when you are on the move.
- Be able to unfold the iPhone so you get a screen as large as an A4 paper.
- A Siri that you can have an actual conversation with, similar to a human
- Brain interface. no need to use you hands, just think and it will appear on the screen
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So, am I the last one on MacRumors who isn't either a competitor-paid troll or a really unhappy person who anxiously waits for each new article so they can post something about how terrible Apple is?
Honestly, the value of this forum is getting close to rock-bottom.
Honestly, the value of this forum is getting close to rock-bottom.
The iPhone was not a massive change in what a smartphone was or could do. In fact, the first version was somewhat crippled in that respect, and really ranks as more of a feature phone.
Smartphones of the time had much more functionality, such as 3G, GPS, MMS, video cams front and rear for videos and video calls, Microsoft Exchange, and of course third party native apps. They had apps for search, music, Google Maps, navigation, medical dictionaries, games, etc.
However, they were not as much fun to use!
On the contrary, it was widely expected, just not so soon. During 2006, all-touch finger friendly concept and prototype phones were being shown, some of which no doubt influenced Apple.
Synaptics was showing off their working Onyx prototype. Qualcomm was shopping around a capacitive touch controller. And the Linux Moko? It was announced that it would have pinch zoom, 285 PPI, etc two months BEFORE the iPhone was ever shown off.
I think it's very telling that when a small group proposes a multi-touch, near-retina resolution device with gestures, icon grid and dock, etc... nobody pays any attention. But when Apple does it months (or years, in the case of retina) later, suddenly it's all A Big Deal.
Even after the iPhone came out, it took a while for the major phone makers to take it seriously as a threat. That's what killed some of those companies.
The iPhone was not disruptive because it was something nobody had thought of. There were plenty of such phones in R&D at the time.
It was disruptive because other companies were dragging their feet, worrying more about their biggest customers: corporations with heavy investments in legacy code on older style smartphones... and so were not concentrating on what the mass consumer liked. And the mass consumer liked the simplicity of learning and using the iPhone!
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If everyone has caught up, it's no longer "incredible". It's pretty standard at this point, even if you remain impressed.
Hopefully, the next "10th anniversary iPhone" is incredible.
And my personal favorite ...
Mr Schiller is like an ostrich with his head in the sand
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This post is the absolute nonsense. I used Palm/Handspring PDAs and later the Treo phone (for 2 years) and they were a GALAXY away from the iPhone in EVERY category. There was not a single function that the Treo performed that the iPhone did not completely put to shame. It was an IMMEDIATE sea change.
Here is a classic example of Apple resting on its laurels. Apple is like Rocky in Rocky 3 - so cocky and arrogant, enjoying it's own success, resting on it's laurels while the hungry competition gets stronger and stronger. The buzzards are circling Apple, time to wake up.
Ease of use unmatched? Ever try Apple music in the last few years? What at epic fail that was. I can't even rate my songs without using Siri.
Lose the attitude Apple, wake up and smell reality. Get hungry again, and get back to Steve's original vision.
Well, that could have something to do with the fact that it was only available in the USA and even there it was AT&T only - at a time when the USA probably wasn't leading the world in cellphone adoption. ISTR at the time things like text messaging were vastly more popular in the EU & UK than in the US.
Oh, BTW, I did have a pre-iPhone smartphone (HTC WinPhone thing with slide-out keyboard). Yes, they existed. Yes, they were crap - mainly because the UI was a train wreck that tried to combine keyboard, number pad, jog wheel, joystick. touchscreen, stylus etc. and didn't do any of them particularly well. The iPhone completely revolutionised the UI by choosing one mode - touchscreen - and doing it really well.
Now, I never got an iPhone (didn't make enough calls at the time) - I got an iPod Touch and, later, an Android phone, mainly because I wanted to try both iOS and Android... iOS won hands down on polish and ease of use.... Android won hands down on cheaper phones, expandable storage and replaceable batteries (had an extended battery/back for my first Android phone - appreciated it when I got stuck in hospital & it lasted for several days until I got someone to bring in a charger...)
However, I was pretty convinced that iOS was better, and I was going to switch to iPhone when the iPhone 5 came out.
...then the iPhone 5 actually came out.
...then Apple castrated their Maps application (it may be OK now, but initially it was pathetic & it was a while before Google released their own iOS Maps app).
...then I saw the Samsung Galaxy Note 2
Wow, a screen big enough to really use the internet, a "proper" stylus (with hindsight not sure that was sucg a big deal) expandable storage and replaceable batteries (although, turns out that the standard battery had stupendous battery life... but at least the option was there).The thing about the iPhone 5 is that the tall, skinny screen was perfect if your #1 priority was phone & one-handed texting - but not so good if, like me (and many others who took the Android phablet route), your priority was web, email, maps, apps, media with occasional phone & text way down the list.
Apple came to the large screen party a year too late and then decided to only offer a choice of "large" or "humungous" (or last year's model warmed over) - annoying all the people who did like the 5 - instead of "best for phone & text" and "best for internet".
Good lord this guy is delusional. The last interesting iPhone was the iPhone 4, which ended up having a host of problems anyway. They are now consistently 2-3 years behind in implementing the best new features from top tier android handsets. Its all been downhill since Jobs' left.
The Mac (MacOS) is not better than Windows. Not by a long shot.
If the phone is always handy, especially at home, how come I witness on many occasions folks running all over the place looking for where they left their phone. Especially if you use a messenger bag or purse. At this moment my phone is on the bedside table, me in sunroom other end of house. What is with me, Watch and within my voice, two Echos. I can use Siri via the Watch, or command other devises with my voice. On a daily basis my actual viewing of the phones screen exponentially going down. So do I need a better more expensive screen, no. If I want to do screen intensive tasks, well Apple has other devices that work much better then the phone. I will agree, if you only have or need one device, you may need a good phone screen and maybe a larger one also. Otherwise, for me, the phone is rapidly becoming a digital hub.
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The expectations on some people really are ridiculously high. I can't believe that people don't appreciate the features of the iPhone.
When you think about it and everything that is taken for granted.
4K filming on a mobile device!
The Dual Camera on the 7 Plus really is great and so is the portrait mode! Although it is a software feature.
How thin and light these devices are.
Love photos
3D Touch
The power of these devices and so on. It's almost like people are dismissing them and constantly wanting something else. Things take time, being more patient is what's needed while actually appreciating the technology we have at our disposal. Of course that won't happen, people don't appreciate anything any more.
When you think about it and everything that is taken for granted.
4K filming on a mobile device!
The Dual Camera on the 7 Plus really is great and so is the portrait mode! Although it is a software feature.
How thin and light these devices are.
Love photos
3D Touch
The power of these devices and so on. It's almost like people are dismissing them and constantly wanting something else. Things take time, being more patient is what's needed while actually appreciating the technology we have at our disposal. Of course that won't happen, people don't appreciate anything any more.
amazon's echo dot - aka alexa is awesome! Apple is missing the boat here
I think it has more to do with how apple carries it self. Phil is basically calling out Alexa as "hanging on the wall" even though there is the echo dot for that reason. Hes acting ignorant and delusional.
Anyone who argues the significance of the iPhone when it was launched is either too young to remember or you're grasping at straws. Bottom line... nothing on the market even came close to the iPhone 1 at the time and it took years for others to even come close to catching up.
With that said... it's really time for Apple to "wow" us all again. It's been too long since we've seen something that just makes the industry stop in it's tracks.
As for SIRI... she's gotten better... but its time to take her to the next level before the others make her completely obsolete.
With that said... it's really time for Apple to "wow" us all again. It's been too long since we've seen something that just makes the industry stop in it's tracks.
As for SIRI... she's gotten better... but its time to take her to the next level before the others make her completely obsolete.