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Came here for the bitchy anti-Cook/anti-Schiller/anti-Apple comments. More salty than a force nine storm at sea. You guys should def. bitch more in every single article.
I'm not salty at all. I'm just point out the fact that Schiller's a master of obfuscation and stretching the truth. He & Cook are akin to the emperor wearing no clothes. They say what they want regardless of everyone else knowing it's horse pucky
 
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It is absolute nonsense to describe the iPhone as 'earth-shattering'. It was a significant step forward in the art, but it was only an evolutionary step. Palm/Treo had been offering smart phones for a number of years before the iPhone emerged, and had a significant third-party developer base offering a wide-range of applications (including satnav).

After that they went out of business.
 
I think it has more to do with how apple carries it self. Phil is basically calling out Alexa as "hanging on the wall" even though there is the echo dot for that reason. Hes acting ignorant and delusional.

That's his opinion and he's entitled to it, let's not forget that is a competitors product so he's not going to talk it up, Steve Balmer trash talked the iPhone and look at how wrong he was. I don't mind opinions, it's when people think they are entitled and start demanding that gets my back up, your entitled to nothing, if you don't like what Apple are doing by all means move on to another competitor, no one is forcing anyone to do anything. it was the same when the iPhone 7 was announced, and it will probably be the same with the next iPhone, people's expectations have gotten out of control I think.
 
It's mind-boggling that Siri has been around on the iPhone for nearly six years and hasn't gotten much smarter in ways that would actually be beneficial to me. I hope they eventually develop a Siri standalone app and APIs that allow people to specify third-party applications Siri should use for directions, weather, etc.

It would also be nice if we could use a standalone Siri app to develop complex workflows that could then be triggered with a simple voice command. If Apple does something like this, Siri will be head and shoulders ahead of the competition instead of lagging further and further behind. Imagine if I could say "Good morning, Siri" and instead of it simply telling me "Good morning", it told me the weather, my calendar for the day, and a few top headlines (or whatever I configured it to tell me when I used the phrase "Good morning"). That's pretty basic (and I think it's something Alexa already does). However, it gets to be more powerful when I can say one phrase and then Siri starts sending texts, sending e-mails, and making a phone call all without me having to intervene further.

Even with their privacy concerns, they should be able to see how many people of the 76% installed iOS 10 user base actually use Siri and to what extent. (I think Siri runs through their servers, not sure?)

That realism would show them that SIRI is inadequate for many and needs a lot of work. It is obvious since it is still in BETA?

For me it has NEVER worked and I have tried and re-tried every so often.

Maybe I am just talking wrong?
 
The iPhone was not a massive change in what a smartphone was or could do. In fact, the first version was somewhat crippled in that respect, and really ranks as more of a feature phone.

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Even after the iPhone came out, it took a while for the major phone makers to take it seriously as a threat. That's what killed some of those companies.

The iPhone was not disruptive because it was something nobody had thought of. There were plenty of such phones in R&D at the time.

It was disruptive because other companies were dragging their feet, worrying more about their biggest customers: corporations with heavy investments in legacy code on older style smartphones... and so were not concentrating on what the mass consumer liked. And the mass consumer liked the simplicity of learning and using the iPhone!

Arguably, the iPhone was never stated to be a smartphone until after the App Store. Jobs only compared it to smartphones, but never once during that presentation did he call it that.

And yes, that truly was the case with device makers like RIM/Blackberry and others. Even Ballmer's video laughing at the iPhone has the whole "business appeal" mentality all over it. Yes, companies are your high profile users, but... it's the consumer that dictates what device gets to be used. Companies came around the iPhone not because companies thought it might be great, but because their own people clamoured it and already unofficially used it.

Main reason why Mail got deep overhauls back in iPhone OS 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2; corporate features for people to unofficially use their company email there.
 
"Remains 'unmatched' today"

If this is what Apple really think then its no wonder Apple have focus issues.

Confused product lines, slow product revisions etc.
 
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i REALLY miss Apple's January announcements. Bring them back! They used to set the tone of the year very well!
 
Voice is the future, really...or at least it's a future. The problem with voice is determining intent, and it looks like they've finally solved that problem.
 
I will probably move away from the iPhone after my SE gives up the ghost. There are better value and options now and with my withdrawal of away from expensive and obsolete Macs continue I see no need to stay in the ecosystem at this point.
That's a shame. A friend moved away and has regretted it since and is planning to reenter when their phone commitments are done.
 
Earth shattering? Absolutely. Unmatched today? IMHO, yes, for the most part. I recall the phone I was using right before getting my first iPhone: a Blackberry Pearl.

I'll just leave that right there.
 
If everyone has caught up, it's no longer "incredible". It's pretty standard at this point, even if you remain impressed.

Hopefully, the next "10th anniversary iPhone" is incredible.
One can hope. ;) I wonder if the near bezel-less design of the Galaxy S8 will numb folks at all to the design of the next iPhone by the time it comes out.

Do you really think Apple can make an absolutely bezel-free iPhone? I honestly am not sure. It'd be tough for anybody. But if anybody has the manufacturing capability, it's Apple.
 
"Earth shattering" Yes. "Unmatched." mehhh, That's a bit bold.

Well, "Unmatched" doesn't mean better :) No where else do you get less hardware for a higher price. No other company can match them in ripping off a customer with such high margins.
 
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Apple's strength used to be a combination of great hardware and software, and the integration of the two's ecosystem. Apple's ecosystem still has a very strong pull IMO, even to outsiders. However, their hardware's pull has declined sharply as Apple raises prices and competitors catch up. Hopefully they can get back ahead in 2017.
 
Arguably, the iPhone was never stated to be a smartphone until after the App Store. Jobs only compared it to smartphones, but never once during that presentation did he call it that.

If your going to compare the iPhone against a smartphone, then it is just that, otherwise why would you do the comparison?

You don't have to be explicit. The comparison was implied that the iPhone was a smartphone.
 
Macs are coming guys. Apple's engineers haven't been sat on their thumbs, they've been busy designing their own chips for the 2017 Macs.

The switch over is coming.

That's a profound statement. I'm assuming you can back it up with a source?

I had a theory a while back that the Mac delay could be because of the switch to A series processors. Intel is slow to produce, and the A series processors are becoming quite fast. This could ultimately lead to a convergence of OSX and iOS even though Apple said it would never happen. Microsoft has done a decent job at converging tablets and computers IMO (or at least prototyped the concept) so maybe they've changed their mind (remember the iPhone at a time didn't wanted to do 3rd party apps).

Imagine being able to run your favourite iOS apps on your Mac? I would welcome it IMO.

Hopefully it wouldn't mean going back to some some sort of Rosetta to run native Intel apps.
 
Agreed on both accounts tbh, but it needs to go back to a more exciting design. 6 through 7 are just dull.

Saying it while owning a 6s+, mind.
 
"I'm so glad the team years ago set out to create Siri -- I think we do more with that conversational interface that anyone else..."

I'm a bit confused by this part of his quote. Is he somehow giving credit to Apple for creating Siri or is he giving credit to the team of devs that actually created Siri? If it's the latter, okay. Those guys did do nice work. If it's the former, then revising history is probably not the best way to make a point.

Doing more with conversational interface than anyone else? Uh, the Siri app was more functional before Apple acquired the dev team. Just my opinion, but no, Apple is not doing more than anyone else. Heck, the original dev team's new Viv is testimony that Apple isn't doing more than anyone else.
Siri is way behind what other AI voice systems are doing. To me, Siri has actually gotten worse. Siri was the major 1st voice controlled app. They are so far behind competitors. Same thing with home-kit. They jumped on home automation early but again, being surpassed by others. Amazon is killing Apple in this space. The problem with Apple, is they are relying on their old philosophy - releasing incremental updates and holding back on features while their competitors surpass them. There are quiet a few things Apple is doing well. But hardware wise, they are behind. Tim Cook and Phil Schiller are old relics. They are stuck in their ways and will not change. Notice the personal pronoun "I" in the interview... Phil keeps saying "I think". That is the problem. They are holding Apple back. It's time for a new vision for Apple products.
 
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Phil sounds like a retired auto mechanic boasting about how good he was at fixing carburetors.
Ever hear an old auto mechanic talk about points? How simple they were to fix (because fix and adjust them you will do often!!).

I detest points!! Electronic ignition and fuel injection are the best things to happen to these damn old cars!
 
It is absolute nonsense to describe the iPhone as 'earth-shattering'. It was a significant step forward in the art, but it was only an evolutionary step. Palm/Treo had been offering smart phones for a number of years before the iPhone emerged, and had a significant third-party developer base offering a wide-range of applications (including satnav).

While I agree the Phil S. is going a bit overboard and verbose most of the time. All you need to do is read the articles that have been done about Google and others reactions to the initial iPhone presentation Steve did. They all scrapped the projects they were currently working on and started over. It was that powerful.

Also, Blackberry was the 800 lb gorilla in the market, even with Palm Treo in it. iPhone changed all that and put RIM as we knew it out of business.

It affected many companies bottom lines and completely changed the expectations of both the home and business markets. So, yes, it very much was an 'earth shattering' device. To say otherwise is highly inaccurate.
 
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