Phil Schiller Tweets Link to Mobile Malware Report That Slams Android

chiefpavvy said:
Security is the fastest growing sector in mobile. And it will only become more important. So it's reasonable to assess the overall security of a platform, and certainly an appropriate topic for discussion.

iOS is built on a "closed" foundation. The sandbox which is enforced between applications provides a greatly enhanced security at the expense of some features -- such as the ease of moving data and files between one application and another. Android OTOH has an "open" architecture, which means you have much more "freedom" to move things and configure and tweak. With that comes the expense (ever growing) of malware threats. It's the classic tug of war between privacy, security, and convenience. You can pick one.

Of course it is personal preference. Some prefer the "open" architecture. Others, like myself, are quite comfortable with the "closed" nature of iOS. So use what ever makes you happy, just be cognizant of the threats surrounding you and realize the strengths and weaknesses of the platform(s) you have chosen.
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There's nothing more upsetting than to check your phone in the afternoon and finding out that it's been frozen most of the day and you have missed a ton of important calls.
 
Oletros said:
No, it has nothing to do with that, by the way, Android applications are sandboxed.
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My understanding is that Apple's definition of a "sandbox" and Google's are not exactly the same. If I'm wrong or you have a different explanation for the numbers, I'm all ears.
 
To be honest I will buy a android this year, I'm tire of iPhone's small screen and a App store designed just to make money. BTW I will like to change the battery of my phone, use SD cards,etc, etc. Also...I will like to have a 300 mega pix camera. - Just trolling
 
Popeye206 said:
Good to see Apple not being so quite anymore on positive news.

Steve was good a basing the competition in one line emails and not making a big stink of it... but the points got seen and heard.
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BINGO!

In fact, the lack of dissenting voices to the Internet echo chamber of fandroids and the billions Samsung spends on advertising is really starting to piss me off. Steve was great at putting out a steady stream of quips which kept all the noise at bay, where is that coming from now?

It's been an underestimated yet important part of their strategy, and the loss of Steve's voice on this front has done incalculable damage to the brand in my opinion.

Smartass said:
another out of many more distractions from mr.Schiller

iOS is lagging behind Android and this is all he came up with? Malware report? it'd be much better if he concentrated on more important things (iphone, iOS, other products) than slamming competition in such lame way.
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Wow, I imagine you must be really upset with Samsung's commercials, then, eh? :)
 
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apolloa said:
Don't know about anyone else but I just see this 'tweet' as a pathetic attempt at scare mongering slander, kind of sad Apple has gone to this level to try and gain those sales back from Android, is it utterly incapable of actually changing iOS and giving people what they want and something fresh? Obviously it is..
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Let me help you out with the definition of slander: "The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation."

This is not slander, it is fact.

Edit: In case you missed it, the key word is "false." This isn't exactly spoken either, but I'll let that slide because that's a much broader argument.
 
chrisbru said:
Let me help you out with the definition of slander: "The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation."

This is not slander, it is fact.
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Really? Nope it's slander in my eye's and shall we bring it all back down to earth and get all you lot of your incredibly high horses? Because you have all rather conveniently totally forgotten about Apple being demanded to attend congress over questions of it's apps it sold through it's app store stealing users information! No jailbreaking required.

http://www.cultofmac.com/146540/con...apple-on-apps-stealing-address-book-contacts/

Oh yes, you ALL forgot that one haven't you when attacking Android, stop being so damn hypocritical you lot.
 
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chiefpavvy said:
If I'm wrong or you have a different explanation for the numbers, I'm all ears.
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SAndboxing has nothing to do with malware, alomst 100% of the malware installations are done by the user sideloading an application.

If you jailbreak yous iPhone and sideload an application downloaded from internet you can install malware and the iOS sandbox can't do nothing about it
 
Oletros said:
SAndboxing has nothing to do with malware, alomst 100% of the malware installations are done by the user sideloading an application.

If you jailbreak yous iPhone and sideload an application downloaded from internet you can install malware and the iOS sandbox can't do nothing about it
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A FACT that is utterly lost on this witch hunting mob.
 
apolloa said:
Don't know about anyone else but I just see this 'tweet' as a pathetic attempt at scare mongering slander, kind of sad Apple has gone to this level to try and gain those sales back from Android, is it utterly incapable of actually changing iOS and giving people what they want and something fresh? Obviously it is..
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I think his tweet is shining the light on the facts. On something that has been promoted about this device. The security of iOS isn't some dream or some lying marketing ploy, it is a fact. How could they not point this out. It needs to be know, and businesses who care about security should take notice.

I hope to see this in security and mobile blogs everywhere.
 
linux2mac said:
How is this news? Android has reigned as King of Malware for quite some time. I recall an article by Digital Trends back in 2011 that questioned "Is Android Becoming the Windows of Mobile Malware?"

*Flummoxed*
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And yet - darn it all to heck - Android still is selling well despite all these reports of malware.

I am sure there are a million and one reasons you and others might say is the reason. But ultimately - how much are people (public) paying attention/caring.
 
phillipduran said:
I think his tweet is shining the light on the facts. On something that has been promoted about this device. The security of iOS isn't some dream or some lying marketing ploy, it is a fact. How could they not point this out. It needs to be know, and businesses who care about security should take notice.

I hope to see this in security and mobile blogs everywhere.
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Perhaps you missed my second post that pretty much contradicts what you just said? With facts. Just like how Apple 'conveniently' sets the 'require password for IAP' to OFF!
If you seriously think iOS is secure, oh dear, but carry on living in neglect I guess? Just like the recently hacked OSX being secure right?
 
yeah, I don't get why people act like iOS is secure because it's more cost-effective to write exploits for android. It's not because it's less or more secure, it's because more people use them.

all of the people that talk about iOS being secure (or osx in general) clearly know nothing about OS security.
 
apolloa said:
Perhaps you missed my second post that pretty much contradicts what you just said? With facts. Just like how Apple 'conveniently' sets the 'require password for IAP' to OFF!
If you seriously think iOS is secure, oh dear, but carry on living in neglect I guess? Just like the recently hacked OSX being secure right?
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You're tying in app purchases to security?

I suppose it would be a problem to you as well by not having to enter your password for each email you read. Nice try, but no.

iOS is secure. Why does it bother you to hear that?
 
Oletros said:
SAndboxing has nothing to do with malware, alomst 100% of the malware installations are done by the user sideloading an application.

If you jailbreak yous iPhone and sideload an application downloaded from internet you can install malware and the iOS sandbox can't do nothing about it
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Precisely, which is why I do not jailbreak my devices.

EDIT: Also, hence, why Apple does not allow "sideloading" of apps. If you choose to break that by jailbreaking the device, you accept the issues which may arise with that. It's not default behavior.
 
phillipduran said:
You're tying in app purchases to security?

I suppose it would be a problem to you as well by not having to enter your password for each email you read. Nice try, but no.

iOS is secure. Why does it bother you to hear that?
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Nope, I was using it as yet another example of Apple supporting lack of secure settings by default to earn more profit and no other reason.

Also in case you missed it another example of Apple supported security holes for developers:

http://www.cultofmac.com/146540/con...apple-on-apps-stealing-address-book-contacts/

Yeah, iOS is REALLY secure.... :rolleyes::rolleyes: also I am not blind enough to believe ANY system is 100% secure. And as has been said if you jailbreak your iOS toy, something that users went to court I believe to force Apple to allow, then you are at risk as much as ANY Android device that's rooted of installing malware etc.
 
echo44 said:
As I have been saying all along Android blows iOS away
this is just another example. Look how much more malware you get
and its free. I just put my iPhone up for sale today. Good news since the resale value of the iPhone blows away Samsung phones I should be able to buy 3 or 4 with the money from my iPhone.
Also since the battery on the galaxy 3 last a good hour or two unless you shut off every feature of the phone. I can buy three of them that should last me a whole day

Just saying
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Yvan256 said:
I still don't understand how they could make Android from Linux and mess it up so badly as far as security is concerned.
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Consultant said:
The year of Android malware. Oh wait that's every year... especially when most Android devices are closed to latest security updates.
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Nicely summed up!!


Peace said:
Who needs malware when all you have to do is stick the phone in the freezer for a while :

Researchers bypass Android encryption by exposing phones to freezing temperatures.


http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...n-by-exposing-phones-to-freezing-temperatures
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*Puts self back into office chair after falling off from laughing so hard*
 
ok, unless you are an exploit writer you don't know if iOS is secure.

Do you guys understand that??

The fact that someone hasn't broke into your house isn't because you have great security at home, it's because no one gives a damn about your house.

I don't understand why being an OSX fanboy means you have to pretend you know what you are talking about in terms of operating system security.
 
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