What makes you think they are losing sales to Android?
Because a comercial told you so?
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Phil Schiller Tweets Link to Mobile Malware Report That Slams Android
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What makes you think they are losing sales to Android?
Because a comercial told you so?
you know how to avoid malware / trojans
I know how to avoid malware / trojans.
The problem isn't techies such as ourselves.
the problem is your CEO. your end users. your non techie accountants who use their devices for work. having sensitive, or secure information, who Do not know what is even out there. They think if it's on the store, it's safe. They think if their friend says it's safe, it's safe. They don't take 20 seconds to even think about it, and assume that the "give access" screen is just for basic information and click past, as the majority of users do.
in the world of BYOD that has taken over the workplace, these risks can be detrimental. Apple gets around it by their method of software scrutiny before it hits the store, as well as their internal security. Blackberry gets aroudn it by having a completely locked down OS and their closed garden platform.
Android doesn't have this. If it comes down to corporate security and having users use their devices for both fun and work, Android would be a major concern of mine. you can only hope that as an administrator and policy enforcer that your BYOD are smart, but that assumes too much.
This is why Android's current issues with malware strikes me as important.
It's different for your average home user than it is your corporate side. these ARE concerns corporations do have to have
I know how to avoid malware / trojans.
The problem isn't techies such as ourselves.
the problem is your CEO. your end users. your non techie accountants who use their devices for work. having sensitive, or secure information, who Do not know what is even out there. They think if it's on the store, it's safe. They think if their friend says it's safe, it's safe. They don't take 20 seconds to even think about it, and assume that the "give access" screen is just for basic information and click past, as the majority of users do.
in the world of BYOD that has taken over the workplace, these risks can be detrimental. Apple gets around it by their method of software scrutiny before it hits the store, as well as their internal security. Blackberry gets aroudn it by having a completely locked down OS and their closed garden platform.
Android doesn't have this. If it comes down to corporate security and having users use their devices for both fun and work, Android would be a major concern of mine. you can only hope that as an administrator and policy enforcer that your BYOD are smart, but that assumes too much.
This is why Android's current issues with malware strikes me as important.
It's different for your average home user than it is your corporate side. these ARE concerns corporations do have to have
Bad, no, terrible analogy.
Also it stands to reason that with the value of the iOS ecosystem and market, the bad guys are all over it. And it stands to reason they may get through at some point. But they haven't yet, and that's a testament to the "closed" ecosystem. If you don't think they aren't poking around, you are incredibly naive.
Erm? What commercial do you know of that advertises sales figures? Seriously what advert states that???
Also facts and figures that show how it has more market share. And I am not talking about America exclusively.
This is especially important since Samsung has recently launched a new ad campaign targeted at enterprise users with the catchphrase SAFE. After this damning report, a more accurate slogan would be DANGEROUS, no?
Another interesting thing about all this is that Samsung doesn't advertise itself as Android front and center anymore, in fact, they do their best to diminish this fact. Good for Phil Schiller!
Yeah. Amusing. But how concerned should someone really be about this fact. For one - it was a custom program that needs to be run.
The fact that the encryption can be bypassed in this manner is pretty damn remote. You know - unless you're on the FBI watch list
I thought this was way more subtle than just saying Android is the mobile OS for porn.
Very weak attempt at spin in your response; "My anecdotal evidence trumps industry research".
I Google "Android Malware" and most tech sites have stories on it, and most of those sites aren't Apple fanboy sites.
But of course, you don't have an anti-Apple bias so how is it possible that you could be wrong?
Yap, two examples that in the right OS version and right device can root that device BUT 99% of malware doesn't have root access so no, malware doesn't have root access.
Yes, I know. And every other malware has to be installed by the user, otherwise, it can't get into the system
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It's not default behavior on Android too, you have to check a flag and accept a very informative warning
No, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Why don't you tell me exactly why it's a bad analogy instead of just saying so??
Tell me - what features in iOS make it harder to write exploits???
Internationally, who has a bigger market share, iOS or android???
You don't know anything about secure software development so I'm wondering why you keep trying to convince me that you do.
Apple's current distribution model makes it cost ineffective to write exploits for iOS when the most you can get is a CC and Android's distribution model allows for a larger target base of victims. This has nothing to do with iOS security design. Considering that android exploits will also work on the ever larger number of small computers running android, one would wonder why anyone would bother writing exploits for iOS when the only other device it runs on is an iPad.
The amount of malware that exists is proportional to the reward for successful exploits, this means exploit writers decide what to exploit by the maximum rewards possible, as opposed to shutting up iOS fanboys.
Of course facts mean nothing to many of the posters in this thread, but the little amount of iOS malware that's out there is only a result of the fact that globally, many many many more people use android. It's the same reason OSX never had as much malware, most of the world uses windows. That's where the MONEY is.
Ok, I know this may make me sound like a cold heartless bastard but how does this effect me at all? I'm not the average consumer, you pointed this out and I can reap the benefits from a platform that allows me more freedom.
BTW Side loading also is disabled by default, it even warns you that this would make your device more vulnerable if you allow it. Not only does it hide the option for side loading in a few menu options but a big error message pops up basically saying "WARNING, you agree that this could damage your device and get your information stolen".
We see what we want to. You see spinning. I only offered my experience. I never implied it was the norm. But of course...
How about you stop worrying so much about any perceived bias and more about posting something productive on the thread. It's getting really old and rather boring responding to posts like this. Is this all you have to offer?
I never said I was right or wrong. I stated my opinion on the subject matter. Isn't that what forums are for? Yeah. I'm pretty sure it is.
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According to your signature you have no problem keeping your locked down iPad 4 16GB and iPod Touch 3G 16GB that lacks side loading. Pot meet kettle.
Well you realize that the flaw in your rebuttal is that his phone is a different device than those you listed. Perhaps he wants more flexibility with his phone that with those other devices.
Well, Einstein, not too many people protect their physical phone with a 12 gauge
Think about how ridiculous your analogy is.Please show me where I claimed to be an expert in "Secure Software Development" ... Also, please provide your credentials.
So your argument is the tired old "security through obscurity" which just doesn't hold up when there are hundreds and hundreds of millions of iOS devices in use daily.
And given the MONEY developers are cashing, I guess iOS has the advantage there too.
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Someone made this point early on in the thread. Consumers pay no attention to those "warnings" and various pop-ups. They just click "OK" or "Continue" and get on with it.
If that's true - why all the hate in the thread about the IAP process towards the father for being a bad/stupid/idiot parent....
he says tongue planted firmly in cheek
Please show me where I claimed to be an expert in "Secure Software Development" ... Also, please provide your credentials.
So your argument is the tired old "security through obscurity" which just doesn't hold up when there are hundreds and hundreds of millions of iOS devices in use daily.
And given the MONEY developers are cashing, I guess iOS has the advantage there too.
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Someone made this point early on in the thread. Consumers pay no attention to those "warnings" and various pop-ups. They just click "OK" or "Continue" and get on with it.
... you think a 12 gauge is good security for your house? No wonder you think iOS is secure... you clearly aren't firing on all cylinders.
You claim to be an expert in secure software development when you insist iOS is more secure than android, it isn't. I'm telling you it isn't and I'm asking you for to provide me with detailed technical reasons on why iOS isn't more susceptible to exploits... but you can't. Hence me reminding you that you don't know what you are talking about.
I'm not advocating security through obscurity. That's what iOS is right now. It's more obscure than android and you seem to think that means its more secure. Honestly, it's kind of hilarious that you would even bring up that argument, you clearly don't even understand what you are saying.
I'm not sure why you think I care if one os is better than the other. I'm not even talking about if one has an advantage. I'm responding to the idea that iOS is more secure than android. It simply isn't. If you could stop acting like an annoying fanboy for 5 minutes you'd probably be able to realize that.
Talk about anecdotal evidence.
Stick to the Play store, leave "install apps from unknown sources" unchecked and you will have NO problems. Hell, EVERY app on the Play store explicitly tells you what permissions you are granting the app. Even The Verge has an article on this mentioning how these security issues are WAY overblown.
I have an MBA + Nexus 4 BTW. But hey, maybe I have an anti-Apple bias so how could I be wrong?
Keyword being phone here. Regardless though, why exactly should I ditch my iOS devices? They certainly have other value. How am I a hypocrite? What is the point of your post?
Your post smacks of someone who gets defensive that someone has offended the almighty Apple. Then you scoff at the fact that they posted it from an iPad. As if people can't use a companies products and be critical of their practices and the way their certain products work. The world isn't black and white with clear lines divided for Hyperfans on both sides. Get real.
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LOL!!! Create fear to steer people to your products.
Sounds desperate.
Share holders and management must not be happy these days.
Sounds desperate.
Share holders and management must not be happy these days.
Most (if not all) Corporate Apps cannot be installed on Rooted Android devices so what you're saying is irrelevant.