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Maybe I'm just not an audiophile - but I absolutely hate people using the word 'cans' to describe headphones. Sounds so ghetto and disrespectful to me.

And using the term "ghetto" isn't disrespectful? Get a clue, dude.
 
But, music from a garbage source as current iTunes music

No need to invest in a high quality D2A converting headphone when the digital source is not great quality to begin with. I'd love for Apple to at least bring in the HD audio formats that companies like Sony and others are trying to offer. There is no reason to pay more for them as it costs absolutely nothing extra for a Studio to take their digital studio tracks and master them with higher quality settings, and personally I don't care if the size of songs increased 10 times, but I'd prefer and option to select music from "better than CD" quality.

I like the idea of using Lightning on the iPhone or iPad directly for headphones and accessories, but I just feel that Apple is not keeping music as first class content anymore and pushed past what the average consumer considered "good quality" for music. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but I can tell the difference between the poor quality of bandwidth conserving streaming and download digital music vs music coming from higher quality formats and even analog sources like records.
 
out of curiosity, do these also have an analogue input? Who would spend $299 on a product that only lets you use them on an ios device that has sufficient battery power remaining?

...especially since we all know that a lightning 2 connector is probably already being prepped to make all lightning 1 accessories obsolete. That's the biggest problem with narrowly proprietary connectors. We've already been through this over and over with Apple and yet many of us seem to forget or don't care about good working hardware being made obsolete because Apple decides to shift to a new proprietary connector. How many times have they done that in the last decade?
 
How's that different from 3.5m jack headphones running down your iPhone's battery? Both types of headphones need power (electricity) to function.

The noise cancellation *would* drain more power, but you'd only have that on when you need it, and would save you having to replace AA batteries in the headphones all the time.

How is this different with the old 3.5mm headphone jack? I could charge my iPhone while still using it because with headphone jack, the Lightning port is obviously free.
 
Maybe I'm just not an audiophile - but I absolutely hate people using the word 'cans' to describe headphones. Sounds so ghetto and disrespectful to me.

Who knew headphones had feelings.

You heard it hear folks... It is headphonist and an electro-slur to refer to your portable ear speakers as "cans".

(Which is totally different than referring to something as "ghetto," a respectful and proper english term of endearment).
 
How's that different from 3.5m jack headphones running down your iPhone's battery? Both types of headphones need power (electricity) to function.

The noise cancellation *would* drain more power, but you'd only have that on when you need it, and would save you having to replace AA batteries in the headphones all the time.

This post is funny... You ask how they're different then you proceed to explain how they're different.
 
It's very different. The 3.5mm jack doesn't provide power, there is an analog "signal" coming out of it that requires some incredibly small amount of power to generate, but that is *entirely* different the actual DC power provided through the lightning connector that is in addition to the signaling that transmits audio (which over Lightning isn't analog, it's a digital signal going over a more complicated protocol, which itself pulls/requires more power than the aforementioned analog signal over 3.5mm devices). You can't run ICs and noise canceling circuitry over the "power" that makes up the signal off 3.5mm analog jacks, instead, Lightning provides actual DC power in addition to the power used for audio signaling.

The power requirements of this are WAY more than your standard pair of headphones.

How's that different from 3.5m jack headphones running down your iPhone's battery? Both types of headphones need power (electricity) to function.

The noise cancellation *would* drain more power, but you'd only have that on when you need it, and would save you having to replace AA batteries in the headphones all the time.
 
It is. These head phones usually don't need much power. (The Bose QC 15 run like 20 hours on a single AAA battery), so running down the battery isn't much of an issue.

But handling the battery is something of a hassle. You can't read how much percent battery you have left, so you end up always carrying a spare. You can't just plug it in to charge, you have to take the battery out and put in into a charger. And the battery makes the head phones bulkier.

Plus, to top it off, most (read: cheap-o) NiMH chargers need to charge the batteries in pairs, so there are always issues finding the charged ones.

One other (first world problems, I know...) issue is that the voltage of the NiMH batteries is 1.2V, so it shows that the battery is low (blinking light) from about 30 minutes after changing the battery, so you never know really if the battery is on its last 5 minutes, or you have 19 hours left on it.
 
Wireless

I'd rather see Apple and its ecosystem partners focus on wireless, because this seems to be a solution looking for a problem. Plenty of perfectly good to excellent headphone solutions out there using the existing headphone plug standard (however outdated it may be), and if Apple is doing this to eventually get rid of that jack on its portable devices, that may get me to give up on Apple.

But wireless is where the focus ought to be, with some accommodation for a cord in place where you may not be permitted to use a wireless headphone, or want a cord to plug into an airplane entertainment system. There are some good wireless headphones out there, but plenty of space for Apple or its partners to really come up with a great wireless headphone solution/standard.
 
And using the term "ghetto" isn't disrespectful? Get a clue, dude.

How is using the term 'ghetto' disrespectful? I'm referring to the term 'cans' sounding not high class - which is EXACTLY what ghetto means. Are more words magically disappearing from our culture because someone is offended?

"Sticks and Stones will break your bones, but names will never hurt you" - I learned this while growing up. What has happened to society being offended by every little word now?
 
How is using the term 'ghetto' disrespectful? I'm referring to the term 'cans' sounding not high class - which is EXACTLY what ghetto means. Are more words magically disappearing from our culture because someone is offended?

"Sticks and Stones will break your bones, but names will never hurt you" - I learned this while growing up. What has happened to society being offended by every little word now?

...says the poster who claims 'cans' is disrespectful?
 
I bet the battery drain will be pretty small. My noise cancelling headphones run for a very long time on a single AAA battery which has a trivial amount of energy compared to the iPhone or iPad battery. This seems like a pretty elegant solution to reduce bulk on the headphones themselves. It would be nice if there was a pass-through charging option, but not 100% necessary.

AAA batteries have a surprising amount of energy in it... For 1.5V alkaline 800 - 1200mAh (1.2 - 1.8 Wh). (roughly 1/4-1/3 the capacity of the iPhone 3GS)
 
Maybe I'm just not an audiophile - but I absolutely hate people using the word 'cans' to describe headphones. Sounds so ghetto and disrespectful to me.

Calling headphones "cans" is disrespectful? To whom exactly- headphones? Last I heard, they don't mind so much.
 
I think this is pretty awesome, but it's annoying you can't charge while listening to music
 
How is using the term 'ghetto' disrespectful? I'm referring to the term 'cans' sounding not high class - which is EXACTLY what ghetto means. Are more words magically disappearing from our culture because someone is offended?

"Sticks and Stones will break your bones, but names will never hurt you" - I learned this while growing up. What has happened to society being offended by every little word now?

sorry... don't see what the problem is.....
The word "Cans" to me is fine... and I'm an audiophile.
It's like saying 10 "bucks", as opposed to 10 "dollars"....
 
Maybe I'm just not an audiophile - but I absolutely hate people using the word 'cans' to describe headphones. Sounds so ghetto and disrespectful to me.

"Cans" from the concept of "canned" sound, which is exactly what headphones are -- devices which "can" the sound from the device stereo to your eardrums. Nothing disrespectful or "ghetto" about that. But it is interesting that you associate headphone lingo with being "ghetto" which says more about your prejudices than anything.
 
Apple's Beats headphones are surely going to add this feature

I've thought since the announcement that Apple as they take full creative and operational control of Beats headphones will utilise the noise cancelling feature on high end headphones and power it through the lightening port on your iPhone/ipod touch.

I'm pretty certain this is going to happen within the next 12 months but it might happen when Apple "refresh" the Beats line themselves whenever that might be.
 
Wow there is just as much fiery opinion on what to call headphones as there is in how well they "perform"... :confused:
 
How is using the term 'ghetto' disrespectful?

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I'm referring to the term 'cans' sounding not high class - which is EXACTLY what ghetto means.

No. No it isn't.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghetto said:
A ghetto is a part of a city in which members of a minority group live, especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ghetto said:
: a part of a city in which members of a particular group or race live usually in poor conditions

: the poorest part of a city

http://etymonline.com/index.php?term=ghetto said:
"part of a city to which Jews were restricted," especially in Italy, from Italian ghetto "part of a city to which Jews are restricted,"

It really isn't.

All connotations fall out of this original denotation is why, basically, all of your comments have been more controversial than the use of 'cans' to denote headphones.
 
Maybe I'm just not an audiophile - but I absolutely hate people using the word 'cans' to describe headphones. Sounds so ghetto and disrespectful to me.

I disagree, but hey that's just me. Have you ever thought about how the term came to be? I don't know this to be true, but it sounds plausible. Take it with a grain of salt. It originated as British slang for headphones. Emphasis on phone. Colloquially represented as 2 cans attached by a string. Nothing ghetto or disrespectful about that. Not sure how you got the idea of cans being associated with ghetto. Without criticizing you, I'd actually like to know.

Ironically, I think headphones should be called headsets and vice versa. I mean headsets are more of a communication device like phones; unlike headphones. <-- pedants please note that I understand some headphones offer 2 way communication.:D

edit: Wow, dude you're getting your ass handed to you in a hat for having an unpopular opinion. Ouch. Question: When did headphone become associated with high class?
 
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