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I got a 60D with an 18-200mm and a 50mm lens for 1200$ in 2014.

I get that the iPhone is more than just a camera, but lately Apple seems to be trying to sell the idea that the iPhone is capable of replacing professional cameras, which it isn't and never will be.

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Knowledgeable people appreciate this fact that a smartphone can never trump a DSLR in terms of photo quality in difficult photography conditions like low light etc. The same way a DSLR can never beat the compactness and versatility of a smartphone like snap and share etc.

The issue is that people with half knowledge and perhaps fanboys insist that smartphones will 'replace' DSLRs or 'take DSLR quality' pictures.

Each devices has it optimum use case scenarios. Its for us to realise what those are.

Cheers !
 
It would be quite the engineering feat to fit a full frame or even an aps-c image sensor into a phone. And a mount for swappable lenses. Small image sensors and small optics will always fall short due to the way light behaves.

Stop thinking about physical camera body only.
In few years, we will run with implants in our eyes, which will be more powerful than any "lens" you've seen before. There will be no camera, no lens. Just a neuronic network of cyborgs and modified human beings. Connected to one huge network, every location will be acessable at any time. Forget about waiting for the right moments like sunsets, sunrises, jumps, water splashes. Every moment will be captured and shared automatically. Wildlife will be recognized, bugs and snakes, birds and foxes will be running through the network, leaving billions of gigapixels of photo-information everywhere. Infinite amount of planets, stars, galaxies will be added to the networks. Infinite amount of worlds, infinite amount of pictures from every perspective of every single element.

"Never" is a long period of time.

Expand your horizon...
 
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Stop thinking about physical camera body only.
In few years, we will run with implants in our eyes, which will be more powerful than any "lens" you've seen before. There will be no camera, no lens. Just a neuronic network of cyborgs and modified human beings. Connected to one huge network, every location will be acessable at any time. Forget about waiting for the right moments like sunsets, sunrises, jumps, water splashes. Every moment will be captured and shared automatically. Wildlife will be recognized, bugs and snakes, birds and foxes will be running through the network, leaving billions of gigapixels of photo-information everywhere. Infinite amount of planets, stars, galaxies will be added to the networks. Infinite amount of worlds, infinite amount of pictures from every perspective of every single element.

"Never" is a long period of time.

Expand your horizon...

Can I have whatever it is you smoked to expand your horizon?

Also, hate to break it to you, the human eye is awful compared to a camera sensor. We can only see well because our brains got good at filling in the gaps.
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Pretty sure they said right in the keynote that it of course can’t replace a professional camera.

I dont watch their keynotes, all I see is their marketing material which gives off the impression that they're trying to sell the iPhone as a replacement for real cameras.
 
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Stop thinking about physical camera body only.
In few years, we will run with implants in our eyes, which will be more powerful than any "lens" you've seen before. There will be no camera, no lens. Just a neuronic network of cyborgs and modified human beings. Connected to one huge network, every location will be acessable at any time. Forget about waiting for the right moments like sunsets, sunrises, jumps, water splashes. Every moment will be captured and shared automatically. Wildlife will be recognized, bugs and snakes, birds and foxes will be running through the network, leaving billions of gigapixels of photo-information everywhere. Infinite amount of planets, stars, galaxies will be added to the networks. Infinite amount of worlds, infinite amount of pictures from every perspective of every single element.

"Never" is a long period of time.

Expand your horizon...
If by “few years” you mean at least 100 years maybe. 500 years...possiblyo_O
 
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I don't understand why people are comparing the camera on a smartphone to a DSLR?


Probably because Tim Cook went on Good Morning America yesterday and said the iPhone's portrait capabilities have replaced the need for people who used to schedule portrait sessions with equipment that cost tens of thousands of dollars.
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My iPhone X does the same awesome work.
If you are a talented person who knows how to take beautiful pictures, you don't need the newest iPhone Xs or Max.

And the portrait mode is great not only on the newest iPhones.
Using Focos App, I can adjust the bokeh much better than that "limited" function of Xs etc.
Apple lied to everybody at the event and the applause was huge.

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Your top few photos illustrate exactly where the iPhone(or any smart phone) does very well and thats in situations where a fixed 35mm focal length with a tiny sensor would do well at which is largely going to be well lit landscapes viewed in smaller sizes.

You can see the iPhone clearly struggles in the groundhog shot and the last photo at dusk which is where a full frame 35mm camera would do extremely well. Not trying to knock your photos but the iPhone technically can't keep up with those type of pictures no matter who is shooting them.
 
The more I’ve been thinking about the more I’m likely going to get the XS even though I was initially not going to.

Reason? Upgraded sensor, Smart HDR and finally Stereo audio for videos. I use my X a whole lot to shoot photos and videos of my family and everyday life. I think these three features alone are going to make me upgrade.
 
Thanks to the Austin Mann review, just bought a couple of lenses and a case from Moment. Looking forward to playing with those!
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My iPhone X does the same awesome work.
If you are a talented person who knows how to take beautiful pictures, you don't need the newest iPhone Xs or Max.

And the portrait mode is great not only on the newest iPhones.
Using Focos App, I can adjust the bokeh much better than that "limited" function of Xs etc.
Apple lied to everybody at the event and the applause was huge.

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Probably because Tim Cook went on Good Morning America yesterday and said the iPhone's portrait capabilities have replaced the need for people who used to schedule portrait sessions with equipment that cost tens of thousands of dollars.
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Your top few photos illustrate exactly where the iPhone(or any smart phone) does very well and thats in situations where a fixed 35mm focal length with a tiny sensor would do well at which is largely going to be well lit landscapes viewed in smaller sizes.

You can see the iPhone clearly struggles in the groundhog shot and the last photo at dusk which is where a full frame 35mm camera would do extremely well. Not trying to knock your photos but the iPhone technically can't keep up with those type of pictures no matter who is shooting them.

What I am trying to show is that there is no difference between X and Xs/Max if you know how to shoot and what to shoot.

Thanks to the Austin Mann review, just bought a couple of lenses and a case from Moment. Looking forward to playing with those!
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Where were these taken?
Switzerland.
 
Leaving aside the adage that only a fools blames the tool, Gruber seems to see a big difference in camera performance between the X and the XS, for normal people.
I’m going to bet as the internet really awakens as these models hit the street there will be the usual mixed reviews, but low light will be better, less grainy.
 
Yeah no smart phone will ever replace a DSLR. Anyone who thinks that, in respects to both all smartphones and DSLR’s, has no idea what they are talking about.

Can these phones take amazing pictures ? Of course they can. Would you want a photogorpher to whip out an iPhone 7 to take pictures of your wedding ? No you wouldn’t.

Each has their respective scenarios where each triumph over eachother.

But either way. What a time to be alive huh ? Technology is amazing and I am happenthat eveyine on MR has a firm grasp of it.
 
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I think he phoned it in on this one, no pun intended. Pretty sloppy work. Can't believe these are the first images we are seeing.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/petapixel/44740373791/in/album-72157699852263981/
WHAT IS THAT?! Its not even sharp.

Also this one is awful as well...
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How is that at such a low ISO yet it looks like he smeared Vaseline over the entire lens? Looks like some super aggressive noise reduction even though its a bright scene. Where'd the detail go?

Apple needs to hire some new photographers. I know its not a big deal but it honestly annoys me that this stuff was actually posted, did he even look at them before deciding to show the world what one of the biggest smartphones is capable of? Did Apple ok these? And whats the deal with some of them being just technically bad, some shots are seriously WAY too aggressive with the NR and look more like oil paintings than photos. I really hope this neural engine hype doesn't mean we are just going to get jelly coated images that lack any definition. Aggressive NR is the worst.
I’ve come to hate the amount of NR my iPhone X applies, in literally any photo even overly well and carefully lit ones. I mean these have the damned SUN behind them in many and they’re still smeary on anything other than a phone screen. I miss some of the tack sharpness a 7 could snag. There’s literally nothing sharp in anything an X hits right now, doubt the XS will do any better, or isn’t, since these are XS. They’ll have to really turn my head on the next phone to make me upgrade, otherwise I’m going backwards. Save some money, throw it at my intended Sony A series purchase.
 
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Yeah no smart phone will ever replace a DSLR. Anyone who thinks that, in respects to both all smartphones and DSLR’s, has no idea what they are talking about.

Can these phones take amazing pictures ? Of course they can. Would you want a photogorpher to whip out an iPhone 7 to take pictures of your wedding ? No you wouldn’t.

Each has their respective scenarios where each triumph over eachother.

But either way. What a time to be alive huh ? Technology is amazing and I am happenthat eveyine on MR has a firm grasp of it.

As point-and-shoots yeah phone cameras are fantastic and I've got nothing against them. What I'm disliking is lately I'm seeing phone manufactures both Apple and some Android ones, seeming to suggest that these phones can replace DSLRs entirely. I saw some ad a while back for the Huawei P20 that was literally a bunch of photography equipment burning. As someone currently making a living as a photographer, its a touch insulting, and there have been a handful of times I've show people photos I've taken and they've literally said "I could take that on my phone". People can take decent photos with their phones with a simple tap on the screen and they think photography is easy and that anyone can do it, and it hurts the real photographers out there who work hard to produce the amazing images they do.
 
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