Photos and Video of iPod Touch With Camera Surface in Vietnam

Any thoughts on whether this will release before September and I'll be able to get this for free when I upgrade my MBP with the Back to School promo??
 
This drives home the fact that Apple pulls features out of products simply to have something to put into the NEXT generation, so that fanboys will buy BOTH. There was really no other reason why the iPod Touch didn't have a camera last year - it was even in the prototype.

Tony

You are jumping to conclusions. There is no way you can know that the only reason it wasn't included was to put something in the next gen. It could just have easily been a marketing thing, or (more likely, IMO) the thin camera required for the enclosure was just not up to Apple's standards.
 
I have NEVER had even ONE iPod hard drive fail on me - ever. And I've owned every model and use them a LOT. I even have given away my old ones and I still don't think any of them have failed hard drives.

There was an infamous (and informal) iPod reliability survey a while back, that came up with some rather large failure numbers... especially for the 40GB clickwheel iPod, with almost 30% failure rate.

If nothing else, it's worth reading for the description of the ways that some of the iPods were killed.
 
My 3rd Generation iPod died about 3 weeks after warranty expired.

Turned me off buying iPod's and I haven't bought one since.

s.

That's a shame. Mine's still kicking seven years later...pretty remarkable to think, though admittedly I've barely used it since 97. I just hooked it up to speakers in the kitchen, so will see how long it lasts now. :p
 
Well, the increase in leaks getting out for super-secretive devices was inevitable in this day and age - there are simply too many people who have to be involved with the product from design to manufacturing to software to sales, and too many ways to display that information to masses of people instantly. It seems nearly impossible that a few of those people wouldn't leak information. I'm impressed that Apple kept this at bay even THIS long.

What Apple needs to do is to change their marketing strategy - only releasing information about upcoming products at super-media events is just not going to keep working in the future. Companies like HTC actually let their customers KNOW about what's coming well in advance, complete with full specs. That certainly will be tougher for Apple to do since they basically only have a handful of devices (and thus early release of info on upcoming products would canabalize sales of existing ones), but certainly more information sooner in some way is going to HAVE to be the wave of the future for Apple.

Tony
 
You are jumping to conclusions. There is no way you can know that the only reason it wasn't included was to put something in the next gen. It could just have easily been a marketing thing

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm SAYING - it IS a marketing thing!

Tony
 
but certainly more information sooner in some way is going to HAVE to be the wave of the future for Apple.

Tony

I disagree. Apple is surely feverishly working on putting a plug in these leaks.

Those of us who have followed Apple and their products for decades know that stuff like this simply hasn't happened before to the extent that we are seeing it now.

Somebody's head is going to roll. Apple is going to make Chop Suey out of somebody.
 
Me thinks Foxconn will be getting a visit from Apple this week. The iPod is definitely a Foxconn prototype. I think this shows that the Vietnam Apple leaks are coming from the manufacturer in China and that the story about the iPhone being bought in America is BS.
 
This drives home the fact that Apple pulls features out of products simply to have something to put into the NEXT generation, so that fanboys will buy BOTH. There was really no other reason why the iPod Touch didn't have a camera last year - it was even in the prototype.

Tony

Why not? Its a very prosperous position to be in as a business. They can give you products with inferior specs and still screw over the competition. There's no point in them rushing in with guns blazing as they're not chasing anyone's market lead. Competitors on the other hand will try everything because they are playing catchup.
 
That looks old... as in prototype for the iPodTouch that corresponded with the iPhone 3GS.

I wonder what choice iPod Touch will make...

On one hand... the new iPad. Often criticized for being a huge iPod Touch itself... will it come into line between the two, as a size variance? iPad and iPad nano (in place of current iPod Touch), with faster performance, and fuller features, and more memory...

and then both iPad big and small get cameras.


or on the other hand, does iPod Touch stay more closely tied to iPhone, with a new less tapered and rounded design... and stay the red-headed step-child of the mobile device lineup.

Frankly, I think iPhone is quite good enough to stand alone as a smart-phone design with capabilities in common with the ipad, but a different visual aspect to the device itself.

I think an iPodTouch->iPadNano transference would be good... unibody matte aluminum back, and all. Full 16x9 high resolution small screen similar to the new iPhone's screen, and a uniform bezel edge like the iPad. Stereo speakers instead of a speaker and mic (but still mic capable, and control-signal capable through the headphone jack for enhanced headphones with inline mic and control buttons... for network gaming, and VoIP, internet chat, etc.), full accelerometer controls, with GPS and compass for navigation and augmented reality apps overlaid on live camera feed to the screen, with picture and video recording like, or better than FlipVideo, and other similar devices...

The iPad would be the big device that is easy to read, easy to use, and not so restricted on screen real-estate... with the iPad nano version being the version that is portable to fit in your pocket, and does all the same things on a small screen, if phone functionality is not what you need. (some people, especially kids, don't carry phones necessarily, other folks carry separate phones, smart or traditional cellular, in addition to a device like this...)

Such a device would consolidate a digital music player of course, as well as GPS/NAV handheld, nike+ compatible pedometer, a portable gaming system, a mobile internet terminal, a digital still and video camera, a PDA, a bluetooth audio source, an accelerometer-based performance-measuring data logger, and tons of other things, all in one device. With a dock-dongle, who knows... it could be a full-duplex RF walkie-talkie, or lots of other versatility, as well...

If iPad is channeling a bit of the PADD from Star Trek... these small devices are an ever thinner slice of science fiction away from being "tricorders" as well. Long beyond the portable cell phone being inspired by Captain Kirk's flip-open communicator. :D

WiFi would be a given... the question is, would an iPad Nano 3G with a micro SIM card have appeal, without being completely redundant with an iphone that does the same, PLUS phone usage, in a slightly different looking enclosure. I would argue... a non-3G iPad Nano, with a 3G->WiFi node device from the digital carrier of your choice, would probably be fine... Leave the SIM cards for the big iPad, and the iPhone.
 
The offensive ugliness of the placeholder GUI takes my breath away.

Anyway, I hope this really is a prototype of the previous revision.
 
I'd prefer a built in mic over a camera. I'd also like to see the iPod Touch adopt the same case design as the iPhone.. actually.. I think the iPod Touch should be everything the iPhone is without the wireless, similar to how the iPad comes in wifi and wifi + 3G.
 
I disagree. Apple is surely feverishly working on putting a plug in these leaks.

Those of us who have followed Apple and their products for decades know that stuff like this simply hasn't happened before to the extent that we are seeing it now.

My point is that it's now a new generation of very hungry information seekers. There is no way that Apple can control all leaks in the future despite what happened in the past - for every leak plugged they'll be 2 more springing up.

It's a new era that calls for new marketing tactics. The "total secrecy followed by a big announcement event" strategy is not going to be sustainable for much longer.

Tony
 
It's obviously the new version that will be released in Sept and it will also have 3G!!
Perhaps you're being sarcastic, but the article itself states that this was presumably a prototype for last year's model.

And there is zero indication that the upcoming iPod touch will have 3G.
 
i still think the camera should be one of the things exclusive to the iphone. not to mention now they have to give it a mic.

i really hope this is the old prototype. (which it does look like.)
 
Makes you wonder if Vietnam has an Apple store that is set 6 months in the future with all these leaks!

It is not in the future but lack of trademark and copyright enforcement. Vietnam does not have the same trade agreements with the USA as other parts of the world, thus technology leaks are more common. Some would blame Jane Fonda for this one!
 
Perhaps you're being sarcastic, but the article itself states that this was presumably a prototype for last year's model.

And there is zero indication that the upcoming iPod touch will have 3G.

I would believe this more than anything else. Apple builds a lot of DVT units that fail DVT and never goes into mass production. There is in fact a gray market of failed DVT units that are passed around by private hands. One of the most desired of failed Apple DVT units is the almost mythical Apple PenMac of the Scully / mid-90s era.
 
The iPod Touch will now be 2 generations behind the iPhone in terms of camera functionality. The least they could've done was make the camera similar to that in the 3GS if they weren't going to add a front facing camera.

I don't see a front-facing camera coming to the iPod Touch. The rear-facing one though would be quite handy. I really hope it does get added on.
 
My point is that it's now a new generation of very hungry information seekers. There is no way that Apple can control all leaks in the future despite what happened in the past - for every leak plugged they'll be 2 more springing up.

It's a new era that calls for new marketing tactics. The "total secrecy followed by a big announcement event" strategy is not going to be sustainable for much longer.

Tony

I personally still think these "leaks" are not all they are said they are. These "seen in the wild" articles reminds of photographers that prowl around the Detroit area looking to get a photo of a new model automobile on public roads for final test before production -- it generates buzz and anticipation of a product with no real cost to the manufacturer.
 
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