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I'll never understand why people insist on a radically new design every year or two. Good engineering and design practice means that things shouldn't be changed without reason, and instead, designs should evolve towards the ideal solution. This isn't done with brand new designs just to please people who require change.

Just look at the MacBook Pro, iMac, or even car manufacturers: they all stick to a relatively similar design for a longer period of time (4-6 years).

In my opinion, they could stick with the 4/4S design for another few years and still look up to date, as long as the internals continued to improve. The only change I would make is an aluminium rear shell rather than glass, but with the same basic overall design. And this, according to the report, is the direction Apple are heading in. I, for one, am looking forward to it.
 
I don't mind the design if this is legit, but please please let the screen been enlarged width ways alongside being taller.
 
i think it looks cool - i don't like the bottom, it looks a little busy and cluttered with the speaker holes etc, and i do wish it was a totally different design but all in all, it isn't that bad. I think white will look great! I wish it was wider rather than just taller too...
 
And you see nothing wrong with that lol...

Innovation will kill Apple. The Gs3 is the best piece of hardware ive ever held in my hand. Bigger screen than the nexus, in a smaller phone. iOS is dated, and iOS6 didnt do anything to help that issue.

Well I don't own an iPhone because I wanted a larger screen and I didn't want to be stuck on obsolete 3G technology when Verizon 4G is in my area, but I would say the majority of people don't care what it looks like as long as it's an iPhone. Apple is smart to capitalize on that because if you spend too much on the design process then total profit is reduced. If people will buy it by the millions anyhow then save some money and hold back features for the next release. Yes iOS6 might look dated, but as long as the customers are buying it up at a rapid pace don't mess with it.
 
Some more comments from Ive:

"We are really pleased with our revenues but our goal isn't to make money."

Makes sense to me.

Yes it is Mr. Ive. There isn't a corporation in this world that doesn't have a goal of making money. The whole reason a corporation exists is to make a profit and add value to it's shareholders. If it wasn't it would be a not for profit corporation and I can promise Apple is not that. Apple tells you what you want to hear so you will purchase thinking they are "different" and they don't care about profit like every other corporation. Don't be fooled into thinking Apple is some sort of special organization that is personally worried about you and is putting it's resources into saving the world. It's not. It is a for profit corporation that will do what it takes to maximize profit.
 
It looks better than any Android phone I know of but it seems a rather busy design for Apple.

Of course, even if it is a bit samey in terms of design it will doubtless pack more speed and better cameras, etc. So likely to be a worthy upgrade for iPhone 4 users if not 4S users.
 
Why ? 326 PPI or 302 PPI or 315 PPI, who cares ? It's all very high and great anyhow.

Because they have set the benchmark, your talking about minuscule differences, I was think of 50 PPI plus differences.

1.Exactly a blatant design error and did they fix it before the phone went to sales?No they didn't and wouldn't do anything if the media and users didn't make it a big issue,they had the time to test and test it and re-test the phone they knew the problem but did nothing.
2.True and that's the dangerous thing apple got away with it.
3.No one said to copy the android phones, to make a phone with a bigger screen has nothing to do with android or w8 for that matter+ no one said about a 4.6" screen,someone did a mock up with a 4.3" screen and the size of the phone was 120X63 if we take in consideration that the 3gs was 115.5X62.1 and we could use it with ease in one hand i think thats the golden point of an easy to use in one hand size for a smartphone without making you feel like you are holding a brick in your hand.
4.TBH i liked Steve Jobs the man was a genius but also was a person that could take back what he was saying the previous day.
Example when he introduced the imac g4 he said"we could cut the back of the g3 and put the hardware on the back of the screen but Bliaah" then when the imac g5 came out.... well what he called a bliaah before was super cool and sexy.

Your analogy of Steve Jobs sounds like Gabe Newell or Cliff Blezinski haha, slag of a format one day, praise the hell out of it the next because you need to sell something on it haha :rolleyes: those two always make me laugh.

Back to screens, the iPhone doesn't need a bigger screen, as I said sales figures more then prove it. Large screen Android phones have been available for a long time now. If Apple goes back to the size of the 3GS it will be a disaster, I had one and my main bug with it was it's fat bloated size! The 4 was like a slim blessing in comparison, Apple won't go back to that design size.
If Apple go to a bigger screen size it will just be a me too thing, they don't need to, the OS isn't designed for it, I can see it going to 4" but no bigger and lots will be happy with that. But they have got to get the dimensions right. At least with a metal back it should be lighter. I think we will all be surprised with what Apple make for the next iPhone, I wouldn't be surprised if they stick to the 3.5" screen.

It's like ask a millionaire, would he rather have a Tag Huer phone thing, or an iPhone? Or the phone with that concierge button or one with thousands of apps and uses? In fact I bet some would have an android phone even, I see lots of business people with business supplied standard Nokia's or Blackberry's, yet they still have iPhone's for personal use too.
 
Why whats wrong with the 4/4s design, its ground breaking engineering. to date no other people have come up with teh concept of having the antenna system intergrated with structural part of the phone

Using decorative trim as parts of antennas was done on phones for years before Apple.

However, as far as I know, no one else used trim where you often hold it, for the reasons that caused Apple's problems.

Where have you been the last two years? Antenna. Band. Outside the phone.

The trim band is just part of the antennas. Most of them are still inside and needs radio transparent case material. Note the iPhone 4 FCC diagram below:

iphone_antenna_locations.jpg

It looks quite odd from the back with the Glass / Metal / Glass. Should really just go with one material for the back in my opinion be that metal or glass.

Has anyone confirmed that the top/bottom are glass and not plastic?
 
Has anyone confirmed that the top/bottom are glass and not plastic?

Not as far as I know. And with the 4S antenna design, if I remember correctly Apple used a dual antenna system or something? It never gets signal loss due to the way you hold it. Hence why some have said they over engineered it haha, not surprising after the out cry though.
Anyway they proved in the end it does work.
 
This is EXACTLY how I feel...about the screen and about Jobs. For those of you that think he was just a great marketing guy, read that book. He was essentially the ultimate in quality control and the reason why Apple's products were always more polished than everyone else's.

Not always. Definitely not always. Hell it took Apple 3 tries to get cloud services right, all on Steve's watch.

I think it wasn't until the unibody transition was when Apple really started producing their highest quality stuff, hardware-wise. The white macbooks, on the other hand, discolored very quickly after people bought them... if Apple released that today, people would be saying "Steve would have never allowed that to happen." Just one example.

On the software side, OSX wasn't really good until 10.4. Their applications have always been reasonably high quality, with the exception of a few niggling little inconsistencies between apps and within the OS.
Stuff that people would say "Steve would have never allowed this" were it not for the fact that it actually did occur on his watch.
 
Yes it is Mr. Ive. There isn't a corporation in this world that doesn't have a goal of making money. The whole reason a corporation exists is to make a profit and add value to it's shareholders. If it wasn't it would be a not for profit corporation and I can promise Apple is not that. Apple tells you what you want to hear so you will purchase thinking they are "different" and they don't care about profit like every other corporation. Don't be fooled into thinking Apple is some sort of special organization that is personally worried about you and is putting it's resources into saving the world. It's not. It is a for profit corporation that will do what it takes to maximize profit.

I don't think that's what he meant. There are a lot of companies that put out crap because they're more concerned about the bottom line than making great products. All Ive is saying is if you start out with the goal of making great products that you think people will want to buy and you run an operationally efficient ship the money part will take care of itself. An being "operationally competent" means a lot of things and is something Tim Cook is a genius at.

I don't think the Apple executive team meets each week to discuss how they can screw you and over charge you all in the name of making more profits. Did Steve Jobs start Apple because he was obsessed with making a lot of money or because he wanted to make great products that people all over the world could enjoy and benefit from?
 
Dammit! I sure hope this isn't the final product. Basically a taller 4S. Where's the innovation in that. Pure lazy upgrade....LAZY!!!!
I am going to wait until it launches and then make a choice between and s3 :mad:
 
Because they have set the benchmark, your talking about minuscule differences, I was think of 50 PPI plus differences.

You said :

But, in my opinion the one thing Apple MUST do with the screen is no matter the size, they MUST ensure it has the exact same PPI as the Retina screen in my 4

How was I to guess that "the exact same PPI" meant it could have the miniscule differences I was talking about ? :confused:
 
I'll never understand why people insist on a radically new design every year or two. Good engineering and design practice means that things shouldn't be changed without reason, and instead, designs should evolve towards the ideal solution. This isn't done with brand new designs just to please people who require change.

Just look at the MacBook Pro, iMac, or even car manufacturers: they all stick to a relatively similar design for a longer period of time (4-6 years).

In my opinion, they could stick with the 4/4S design for another few years and still look up to date, as long as the internals continued to improve. The only change I would make is an aluminium rear shell rather than glass, but with the same basic overall design. And this, according to the report, is the direction Apple are heading in. I, for one, am looking forward to it.

well said. i totally agree. thank you! ;)
 
Who the heck wants a taller phone? I want a bigger screen, but I don't want JUST a taller screen.
Movie lovers.

The people that are going to want this are a whole LOT of iPhone 3GS owners and even iPhone 4 owners. It won't be just esthetics that change. There's always other stuff that'll sweeten the deal about the phone: Camera will improve, ram will increase, etc. Oh... and 3GS and 4 owners will finally get Siri. They're excited about that.

You sound like a 4S owner. Personally, I don't want this either. But then again, I own the 4S. My plan is to only get the "S" version of each iPhone.... the 4S, the 5S, etc... that way, I always have the most powerful version of each model. I'm just glad I skipped the "4" or I might not have the willpower to resist the "5".
 
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Best part is the color for me. I love the slate/graphite color of the back panel and frame! I would be greatly pleased if this is it. Also, if you notice the screw points throughout the back panel would indicate Apple is utilizing the back of the phone for reception as well, not just the outer frame!
More than anything (and what really seperates the iPhone from Droids) I am looking forward to the software and abilities of the new phone: ie NFC, Camera software, upgrade siri, etc.
 
Well, it looks horrible and not something Apple would do. The back of the phone with 2 colors and clear "zone markings" just isn't Apple.
 
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Ok, I guess I'm in the minority but that looks so dated to me.
Like a 3GS prototype.
It's an obvious melding of iPhone and iPad but it's the 3G iPhone and the 1st generation iPad.
I personally like the way that the iPhone and iPad have evolved so seeing this blend of the two outdated designs just looks outdated.

Personally, I prefer the "outdated" 3G design over this "iPhone 5" leak. And ergonomically, the 2G/3G/3GS were a lot better than the current brick generation. Yes, it is beautiful, but old iPhones fit my hand so much better with their pebble-like body.
 
Because they have set the benchmark, your talking about minuscule differences, I was think of 50 PPI plus differences.



Your analogy of Steve Jobs sounds like Gabe Newell or Cliff Blezinski haha, slag of a format one day, praise the hell out of it the next because you need to sell something on it haha :rolleyes: those two always make me laugh.

Well it's true you can check the keynotes :D

Back to screens, the iPhone doesn't need a bigger screen, as I said sales figures more then prove it. Large screen Android phones have been available for a long time now. If Apple goes back to the size of the 3GS it will be a disaster, I had one and my main bug with it was it's fat bloated size! The 4 was like a slim blessing in comparison, Apple won't go back to that design size.
If Apple go to a bigger screen size it will just be a me too thing, they don't need to, the OS isn't designed for it, I can see it going to 4" but no bigger and lots will be happy with that. But they have got to get the dimensions right. At least with a metal back it should be lighter. I think we will all be surprised with what Apple make for the next iPhone, I wouldn't be surprised if they stick to the 3.5" screen.


We agree to disagree :) i believe the way the smartphone goes it is necessary to put a bigger screen but not as big that will make the phone hard to use in one hand, for me it is the 4.3" the epitome.
I wouldn't be surprised if apple came out with 3.5" but it won't happen and yes the sales where good but do you believe that if apple was keeping the exact same design and put LTE etc.+ HW would keep on selling?BTW i never said to make it thicker like the 3gs was or to make the same design as the 3gs was.

It's like ask a millionaire, would he rather have a Tag Huer phone thing, or an iPhone? Or the phone with that concierge button or one with thousands of apps and uses? In fact I bet some would have an android phone even, I see lots of business people with business supplied standard Nokia's or Blackberry's, yet they still have iPhone's for personal use too.
PS.I really hope apple will surprise us in a good way but i doubt that the leaks are to many and consisted,Btw i was one of the phew that loved the iphone 4 design and one that not for a sec believed that after the ip4 apple will launch ip5 as many thought back then.
 
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