iPhone XR Played with the XR today - Apple is really ripping off all iPhone buyers

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Adelphos33, Oct 27, 2018.

  1. Adelphos33 macrumors 6502a

    Mar 13, 2012
    I have a MAX now, and I went to the store today to check out the XR.

    1) The XR seems like it does 98% of what the XS/Max both do, for much less. The vast majority of iPhone users would love that phone

    2) The white, red, blue and yellow look great in person

    3) The XS and Max feel and look “nicer” than the XR, but I’m not seeing the utility. For example, the XR screen is fine, and the camera feels excellent. All apps will work equally well on all of these phones

    4) Apple really should have released a single next generation iPhone with XR dimensions and specs and an OLED screen starting at around $899 at 128G. This would have been “the new iPhone” and created a huge upgrade cycle. Instead we have this dual track system where none of the buyers actually get real value.
  2. Vermifuge macrumors 68000


    Mar 7, 2009
    Premium cars will get you from A to B just as good as any economy car. But they can costs 10s of thousands more. Does the premium car owner say they got ripped off? Some people just enjoy having a premium product. Some people may have a specific need for the XS / Max’s slight performance benefits. So really there’s not much else to say. I like my Max and don’t feel like I was ripped off.
  3. profets macrumors 601

    Mar 18, 2009
    The XR is an excellent option and likely what most buyers will purchase.

    However I don’t see what the issue is if they want to also offer a more premium/luxury/etc model that has different materials and a more expensive screen. No one is forcing you to buy either of these.
  4. The Game 161 macrumors P6

    The Game 161

    Dec 15, 2010

    if you want
    an even bigger screen
    OLED display
    3D touch
    Duel cameras

    then not really. Depends how much those things matter to you.
  5. andyp350 macrumors 6502a

    Aug 14, 2011
    People always used to complain there was no
    choice. Now there’s too much.
    All of this years phones were unveiled at the same time, so the differences (or lack of differences as you feel) should have been obvious to you from the get go before you got your Max.
  6. bungledvolley macrumors newbie


    Dec 31, 2017
    Uhm Apple have been doing that since day 1. Are you new here?
  7. Adelphos33 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Mar 13, 2012
    - The screen size seems very similar
    - OLED is nicer, but functionally doesn’t add much
    - I’m actually using 3D Touch more nowadays, so this is valid
    - Undecided on this, but the XR camera seems great

    Overall functionally these phones are all very similar
  8. BasicGreatGuy Contributor


    Sep 21, 2012
    In the middle of several books.
    Apple isn’t ripping anyone off. Use words in their correct context and meaning.

    Your OP reads like sour grapes. Sell your phone and get something cheaper, and don’t worry about how other people spend their money.
  9. Adelphos33 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Mar 13, 2012
    Sorry if my post sounds like sour grapes, but the point is that while I love my MAX, I’m not seeing the functional utility of spending $400 more on it. Apple could have designed a premium XR at $899 or $950 that could have delivered that value
  10. redheeler macrumors 604


    Oct 17, 2014
    The entire iPhone lineup is $100 overpriced, or should come with 128 GB base storage at a minimum, IMHO. However, I don't see the problem with the XR and Xs being offered as separate products, or the price difference between them.

    The Xs Max offers plenty of useful advantages (such as a larger screen, 3D Touch, and 458 PPI OLED screen), to the point that I wouldn't even consider getting an XR.
  11. The Game 161 macrumors P6

    The Game 161

    Dec 15, 2010
    But why would apple do this when they know people are willing to pay the higher prices? they are a business afterall.

    If people weren't willing to pay then these prices would exist.
  12. AppleHaterLover macrumors 68000

    Jun 15, 2018
    Why would they do that?

    At $900 they would be pricing out many people for whom the $760 tag of the iPhone 8 Plus was already pushing it too far.
    And clearly there was a ****ton of demand for the X at $999. So why lower the price if there is demand.

    So they’d be missing out on the lower end and waiving profit goodbye on the higher end unneccessarily. Why the hell would they do that??
  13. Adelphos33 thread starter macrumors 6502a

    Mar 13, 2012
    There is that big thread of people not upgrading - an upgraded XR at sub $1,000 would sell a ton of units
  14. AppleB macrumors 6502a


    Oct 18, 2011
    I have a friend that’s switching to iOS from Android and they feel the XR would be perfect for their needs.

    They don’t want to spend the cash for the XS/Max but want the iOS iPhone X Series experience.

    There are bound to be plenty of people in this category.
  15. AppleHaterLover macrumors 68000

    Jun 15, 2018
    People won’t upgrade when their phones are good enough for the time being.
  16. Closingracer macrumors 68040

    Jul 13, 2010
    Sorry I’ll would rather buy a X then am XR. This is assuming I didn’t have an X already. Sorry the OLED screen is the most important feature for me and if the iPhone didn’t have it I would of kept with my Note 8 or perhaps buying a S9 plus since it cost the same as the X when I got my phone in June. The difference was like a $1. The x I am leasing costs $20 per month and the S9 plus was $21 and S9 was $20.
  17. Squeak825 macrumors 6502

    Sep 5, 2007
    Having an LCD-alternative in the "X" line has been a great option for those of us who can't use their OLED screens due to crappy PWM implementation.
  18. Closingracer macrumors 68040

    Jul 13, 2010

    Oled is better and offers better blacks. This is my tv and I watch everything on my phone. Once you go OLED you don’t go back lol.
  19. Closingracer macrumors 68040

    Jul 13, 2010
    Then return it and stop crying over it. If you can’t sell it and buy an XR.
  20. thadoggfather macrumors G4


    Oct 1, 2007
    The Xr having a12 and xs wide camera and battery beyond max are what make me feel like apple is ripping us off

    But spec junkies will feel ripped by the 868p screen

    It looks a lot nicer than I thought. And loving some. Color. I hope they offer more in the spring but the blue is really cool
  21. Squeak825 macrumors 6502

    Sep 5, 2007
    So not true for some of us....
  22. Closingracer macrumors 68040

    Jul 13, 2010
    Oled is better.
  23. Squeak825 macrumors 6502

    Sep 5, 2007
    OLED does you no good if you can't stand to look at the screen because of crappy PWM implementation.

    Or you get nauseous due to off-axis tilt shift to blue
  24. Closingracer macrumors 68040

    Jul 13, 2010
    Crappy ? Nah and that effects how many people ? Plenty of people own Samsung devices, pixels, Htc devices and iPhones. Most if not all of the big players phones all have OLED screens now on their flagship phones.
  25. Sarngate macrumors regular

    May 15, 2010
    For me the issue is the delay in launching the XR.

    Doing so the other way round, launching the premium device later as they did last year is more understandable.

    Many people bought the Xs and particularly Xs Max believing the price difference would be more justified than it actually is.

    As an Xs Max owner I think I’d be extremely happy with the XR. Unfortunately as with many people I am now locked into a 24 month contract to an Xs Max.

    Based on the lack of availability issues with the XR it’s hard to see the launch delay as anything other than cynical profiteering.

    For the record I have no issue with the Xs Max price, I just feel that the XR is almost too good of a value in comparison.

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