Mine mirrors your's...kinda frustrating that it hasn't updated at all. The phones must be traveling on a dingy...
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iPhone 13 Pro Max Please post your updated iPhone 13 Pro Max Oct 6-11 shipping estimates
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Normally the UPS is more accurate in my experience in IUP over the years even if missing scanning in transport from China to Louisville. Other than your described experience I found the Apple date is more conservative from opening day onward. But this time the Apple date looks to be maybe more accurate than UPS when there is nothing from china on and I would expect Louisville on tracking at least given some years missed tracking segments. But like you said other day my phone is in china and now it appears so. Yes we have time for Friday now if apples October 1 date is valid. But this is hard to plan for with other things to do than be held waiting for bad tracking data.
Well I was looking on google for UPS issues and I found this page about shipping problems with China. It is adjustments for shipping within and to and from China. The basics are there are delays and for the area where some of our phones came from is ZHENGZHOU roughly north central. Well scroll down and you see there is up to 6 days business days delays all due to coronavirus. First one with red circles I put the start of this in second image to show titles for columns only. Given we are past the opening day important delivery period I think we are all going to be stuck with these issues and UPS and China manufacturing and shipping. So given that it will take 6 days from north central china where ZHENGZHOU is located. That means from the 9/25 dates we see as it ready to go that will be October 1 china date/time thereabouts. Since we are one day earlier then this (September 30 our dates/times) to me this could mean that apples estimate of October 1 is going to be more accurate. I just wish I did not have to be doing due diligence to find this kind of stuff out. Be honest UPS and tell us now. Apple your reliance on just in time shipping is falling apart.
Service Alerts | UPS - China Mainland
Events such as inclement weather that impact UPS service.
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6-7 Oct delivery. 13PM.
Charged so most likely will be delivered. and I could freely change the colors depending on stock. Using third party shopping app with apple online store. I have changed from blue to white and then 256 to 512 and now 1TB since it’s so rare.
I see apple is releasing more stock. They will only replenish once those listed are all or 90% sold.
The 1TB always sold out with the credit cards discounts now.
Charged so most likely will be delivered. and I could freely change the colors depending on stock. Using third party shopping app with apple online store. I have changed from blue to white and then 256 to 512 and now 1TB since it’s so rare.
I see apple is releasing more stock. They will only replenish once those listed are all or 90% sold.
The 1TB always sold out with the credit cards discounts now.
Some of us got preparing to ship last Friday. (9/24) and shipped early am Saturday from China with all things cleared and ready to go. Then nothing. So we have all the info, even our applecare, billing and loan info, ect from apple. That batch supposedly today arrival but I doubt it. Nothing since that data on Saturday. I bet those phones are sitting with others and I found even indications of delays with the UPS getting things from there as much as 6 buisiness days. Normal non pandemic issues gone it would be a couple days total to Louisville but I think our phones are sitting n the first of us who got shipping info. You probably will see the rest of tracking info soon but I think past the. 9/24 rush the rest of us are stuck with regular limits, delays of shipping from China that UPS is reporting
Just spoke to an International UPS Representative and the packages scheduled for delivery today are delayed due to COVID, which doesn't make sense because if you look at China's COVID rates...well, I won't turn this political so I will stop there... He confirmed that the package has left China and is currently in "transit" and updates are expected today. I can only assume that everyone else's packages and deliveries will be delayed as well. What a bummer. I don't think I'm ever going to pre-order an Apple item again, if I decide to stay with iPhones....I'll just wait until it is available at a local store.
Yes I am wondering the same about IUP, international shipping ect. The hassle of missing opening day delivery after taking 5 minutes to get in, the uncertainty of delivery dates as UPS tracking is all fubar. Makes it wonder if this is worth it. I may keep my 13?promax 1TB and pay it off and wait till the 15 pro max with no tradein. Shipping and logistics have gone to hell with the effect of the pandemic so i am unwilling to subject my self to theis craziness any longer
This is my first iphone experience and it hasn't been a good one so far....second guessing my choice to switch if this is what buying apple products is like.....good thing macbooks last a long time. Lol
Well this is what shipping any product especially electronic ones which for all major computer and smart phones are from China looks like. Was never like that with prepandemic days. Shipping is in a great flux and there are problems everywhere.
What will suck is if I decide to trade in this 13 pro max on Samsung's next new release after going through all this BS. I was really struggling between deciding on the S21 Ultra and the 13 Pro Max...
None of the things you mention here are specific to IUP. Even if you pay in full, or do Apple Card payments, or whatever, the same applies for all preorders - they all come from China, and any method of payment can have ship dates slip if you don't get the order in quickly.
Yes in my years in IUP since available I am doing worse than 50/50 i. Getting opening day. I prefer that day because for most orders (until Covid) you know the day to plan to be home. After that my busy fall schedule feels like a hostage to waiting for UPS.
I had the order in shortly after 5 past when one of my open store apps let me in. But it slipped just in the minute that the usual re-entering of card information from preapproval happened. Waiting after is a pain and the variation in shipping hard to deal with since October is so busy. But now shipping every where from international sources is fubar. And if that’s true next year still it makes me wonder if I just skip the 14
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I do know that Samsung is made in Korea and not China. I do not know if they (Korea) have the same COVID delays with shipping. Like I said, this is my first iphone experience and it hasn't been up to my expectation coming from such a notable company. There are many ways to circumvent these occurrences and delays. The number 1 thing is to be better prepared. I paid for my phone in full on the 24th and I just feel like the $1500 phone isn't worth the pre-order hassle and disappointment. But, you know, that's just my opinion of my experience so far.
I honestly don't think they necessarily "sell out" of inventory. This is my non-expert, completely out of my a%& explanation of how I think it probably works. If anyone wants to call me an idiot and correct me on any of this, that's fine:
1. On some pre-planned date every year they switch their main production lines from last year's "new" model to this year's new model. Any previous year models are prioritized by demand in the production line. Things shuffle around, etc.
2. The new configuration runs full blast all the way up until launch day and all the way through when demand starts to peter out a bit just due to seasonal changes that I'm sure Apple has the ability to predict quite accurately.
3. By the time you put in your pre-order, a pre-determined amount of iPhones is already on trucks/planes/ships waiting to go out to customers, with probably plenty more waiting in the wings for constant waves of launch day boxes.
4. Pacing of these shipments is determined by shipping partner bandwidth, not inventory.
The real problem with getting a launch day iPhone these days is that despite pundits' wishes, the iPhone is only getting more and more popular. I sometimes wonder if demand is not outstripping physical inventory but rather number of vehicles available to get that inventory to peoples' houses and into stores.
The iPhone is such a GIGANTIC business all by itself. It's the most successful product in the history of the world. I personally believe iPhone 13/Pro/Max is going to tax the system even more because I'm convinced that this form factor is the iPhone perfected and is going to sell like crazy.
unless you get in on the first orders every year you'll hit a delay, there's just too much demand.
This year it's quite a bit worse with supply shortages in every industry, labor shortages, etc.
Supply chain is something Apple is great at, so if they can't handle the current situation, nobody probably could.
I don't think apple's dates had anything to do with this UPS delay, I don't think even UPS saw this coming. Usually once you have movement and estimated dates they're pretty good at sticking to it roughly.
I wonder if the energy shortages in China are causing issues as well. It's pretty easy to just say something is a "covid related issue" and not tell the customer anything else about it.
unless you're getting a launch day delivery apple seems to underpromise most of the time. You might have to wait until the end of their date range, but you'll probably get it by then.
