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Is that the best you can come up with? Next time provide some stats to back up your "data".
LMFAO. That's total BS. I jb as do 10's of my friends/family and NONE of us use Installous.
I have no idea how this thread was hijacked to become a discussion about Installous, but whatever.
I want to start off my rant with "I love Apple, they are awesome, I'm a fanboy, etc"
Apple will never be able to stop App piracy. They can stop Installous, probably, but then there will be other hackers who will find some other way to either undo what Apple did, if it's technical, or start another means of distributing. Microsoft and every other major (and most minor) software developers have been fighting piracy for DECADES, even before the Internet was around. (people used to make copies of floppy disks of Windows 3.1 and share it... this is also piracy!)
If the number of people using Installous was NEARLY as bad as people make it sound on here, then there would be no app store developers. They would be broke. There would be no apps. There would be no app store. Just like if too many people pirate music, there won't be an iTunes store. They make plenty of money even with Installous around. Yes, I know they could make more, but just like music artists, software developers do know deep in their hearts that not every person who uses their software is going to pay for it. It's ugly, but that's the truth.
I'm not saying it's "RIGHT" to pirate anything. It's definitely unethical/illegal, etc... BUT, Apple will not stop it. They can not stop it. They can try, and fail. Just like Microsoft. Just like anyone who ever put "From your game manual, type the 3rd letter on the 5th paragraph of the 9th page to continue installation."
Now, if Apple made jailbreaking easier, rather than harder, then there would be more people who have Android who would have iPhones, and that would be able to bring more revenue to themselves and the developers! Apple... STOP STEALING FROM YOUR DEVELOPERS! STOP FIGHTING JAILBREAKERS!
(That last part was a joke... mostly. You never know who may read too much into that and flame me)
I want to start off my rant with "I love Apple, they are awesome, I'm a fanboy, etc"
Apple will never be able to stop App piracy. They can stop Installous, probably, but then there will be other hackers who will find some other way to either undo what Apple did, if it's technical, or start another means of distributing. Microsoft and every other major (and most minor) software developers have been fighting piracy for DECADES, even before the Internet was around. (people used to make copies of floppy disks of Windows 3.1 and share it... this is also piracy!)
If the number of people using Installous was NEARLY as bad as people make it sound on here, then there would be no app store developers. They would be broke. There would be no apps. There would be no app store. Just like if too many people pirate music, there won't be an iTunes store. They make plenty of money even with Installous around. Yes, I know they could make more, but just like music artists, software developers do know deep in their hearts that not every person who uses their software is going to pay for it. It's ugly, but that's the truth.
I'm not saying it's "RIGHT" to pirate anything. It's definitely unethical/illegal, etc... BUT, Apple will not stop it. They can not stop it. They can try, and fail. Just like Microsoft. Just like anyone who ever put "From your game manual, type the 3rd letter on the 5th paragraph of the 9th page to continue installation."
Now, if Apple made jailbreaking easier, rather than harder, then there would be more people who have Android who would have iPhones, and that would be able to bring more revenue to themselves and the developers! Apple... STOP STEALING FROM YOUR DEVELOPERS! STOP FIGHTING JAILBREAKERS!
(That last part was a joke... mostly. You never know who may read too much into that and flame me)
Does anyone know when 5.1 comes out?
CLEARLY that was a typo. Obviously I meant to ask about 5.1 which is why I quoted it in the first place. Is there anyone who can respond without attempting to be funny? I'm not stupid-I know nobody knows the exact day or time except Apple, but I mean an educated guess.
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Hilarious. Given those sources, particularly the installous forums, I'm surprised you didn't arrive at the equally incorrect conclusion that 100% of jailbreakers steal apps.
100% of all people who steal apps try and justify it by claiming 95% of jailbreakers steal apps.
Perhaps you should slink back to your pirate forum where I'm sure you feel much more at home.
Because Installous forums is a reliable source when it comes to discerning % of people who jailbreak to pirate apps. /s
That's like going to a crack house and asking who likes crack/drugs.
I just want to say I think Installous is absolutely great. It gives me an opportunity to try those apps I'm interested in buying. I mean, even if an app is only 99 cents, it's still 99 cents and it adds up quickly if you buy enough apps that you don't care for. Like trying out a new calendar app... I don't want to have to buy every single one just to see which one I like the most, nor do I want to rely solely on reviews and snapshots. After having tried an app I either delete it or buy it from the app store. I buy more apps with Installous than without.
But those people who are using Installous as their only source of apps are just being disrespectful and are not worth taking seriously. It's not worth the time trying to tell a thief stealing is wrong.
With that said, any news on the A5 jailbreak?
But those people who are using Installous as their only source of apps are just being disrespectful and are not worth taking seriously. It's not worth the time trying to tell a thief stealing is wrong.
With that said, any news on the A5 jailbreak?
I just want to say I think Installous is absolutely great. It gives me an opportunity to try those apps I'm interested in buying. I mean, even if an app is only 99 cents, it's still 99 cents and it adds up quickly if you buy enough apps that you don't care for. Like trying out a new calendar app... I don't want to have to buy every single one just to see which one I like the most, nor do I want to rely solely on reviews and snapshots. After having tried an app I either delete it or buy it from the app store. I buy more apps with Installous than without.
But those people who are using Installous as their only source of apps are just being disrespectful and are not worth taking seriously. It's not worth the time trying to tell a thief stealing is wrong.
With that said, any news on the A5 jailbreak?
Supporting installous is supporting piracy. Even if you "use it the right way".
Out of the 5 people I know who jailbreak only one person uses installous.
So in my unscientific survey that's 20%
PS I'm not the one.
So in my unscientific survey that's 20%
PS I'm not the one.
I don't see it as much as supporting piracy as showing my discontent to having to buy an app to be able to try it out. If more app makers would offer their apps on a trial basis or a free version with limited functionality, I wouldn't use Installous at all. And saying it's supporting piracy when I actually spend more pirating than not - well then I guess my supporting piracy is a good thing for the app makers (that make apps that I like).
I have no idea whether enough people reason like I do for Installous to be a "win" for app makers in general, or only some app makers, or not for anyone at all. I just wanted to point out it's not a black and white-thing.
Pirating has been going on since forever, my dad told me about pirated punch cards for instance... Those grainy fifth generation CAM-copies on VHS in the 80's, mp3s and DivX in the 90's... It's not going to stop. The fact that not more people have realized that they NEED to change their business models is beyond me. How can so many generations of decision makers and company leaders be so daft?
Fight piracy by making it obsolete, like Spotify. Not by telling people they can't do it and that they will make you pay. Or do like Microsoft, they're not pursuing any private user of their pirated software (or puts an awesome 30 day trial period on pirated stuff), because they know that if someone pirates their software, they'll learn it, get used to it and are more prone to buy a real license later on than if they had to choose a free or cheaper alternative from the beginning.
I use pirated software, watch pirated movies and listen to pirated music. This is negative for all those who produce stuff that I don't like, but it's positive for all those who produce stuff that I like, because I buy what I like and not having to buy it before checking it out means I discover artists, producers and so on that I wouldn't have otherwise.
I can not hate on the pirateers, although I think it is often an abused privelidge of "trying out and keeping for free"... however I am much more inclined to, say pay $0.99 on the risk that an app sucks sight unseen, than, say pay $1699.00 for something like Adobe CS without knowing that it's got what I need. That's why Adobe has developers provide a fully functioning free trial, because they are making serious dough and have a huge reputation at stake.
I did copy my records onto cassette tapes during the 70's and 80's so I could listen on my Sony Walkman without having to buy another copy of an album I already legally owned. This is where imo, the media producers went wrong and lost my respect; as if I had no rights as a paying consumer to do with my purchases (such as record a backup) as I liked providing I was not re-distributing their works.
So, anyways.. jailbreak is frree unless you're an appreciative user like me who donates to hard working developers to encourage their continued progress or to reward their success. Can't pirate free! lol
I did copy my records onto cassette tapes during the 70's and 80's so I could listen on my Sony Walkman without having to buy another copy of an album I already legally owned. This is where imo, the media producers went wrong and lost my respect; as if I had no rights as a paying consumer to do with my purchases (such as record a backup) as I liked providing I was not re-distributing their works.
So, anyways.. jailbreak is frree unless you're an appreciative user like me who donates to hard working developers to encourage their continued progress or to reward their success. Can't pirate free! lol
So was being homosexual and in other countries it's legal to have sex with animals. What's your point?
I know it's illegal, but I think that piracy should be fought in a different way than holding on to old and obsolete ways of making money and threatening everyone with fines if they don't comply. Netflix is a great example of what I mean. If I was able to have a Netflix account where I live, or if Icefilms was made legal and you had to pay to use it - I would choose that option over pirating movies
So is going 1 mph over the speed limit, which I'm sure you've never done. I don't condone pirating or anything of the sort but I'm so sick of people here acting as if they live in glass houses...
Does it matter if I update to 5.0.1 through itunes vs. downloading the version I need from the dev team? It seems easier to click update in itunes.
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Where are there versions of ios available from the dev team? In my iopinion, for jailbreaking, when its a option, update through iTunes.
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Where are there versions of ios available from the dev team? In my iopinion, for jailbreaking, when its a option, update through iTunes.
You already have shown the inability to write coherent sentences, I wouldn't want to trouble you more with statistics.
You do not understand statistics. Just because the people you know don't use installous, there are thousands of people who do and this larger sample size evens out the percentage.
I don't heed advice people who has to go so low as to use insults against others on the internet.
This.
And there are thousands of people who do not, there cannot be any accurate guess short of cydia tracking how many devices have downloaded installous...which wouldnt be totally accurate b/c there maybe be people who strictly use installous to try out an app if there is no free/limited trial.
You have not provided any statistics, just your uninformed opinion and when you are called on it, you act the victim. Regardless of how many people use Installous, everyone who does is scum.
I like to know why this has turned into a Installous thread instead of talking about pod2g jailbreak. I know news is light on it right now but still. I come here to see if there is anything I missed about the jailbreak all I see is about Installous.