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If your stuck with crappy standard ringtones and can't use iTunes songs/mp3 etc like nearly every other phone out there.....I won't get getting one. Small thing but important.
Then SJ shouldn't have called it a smartphone and compared it against the likes of the Symbian, Palm, Microsoft, Blackberry smartphones.
Its misleading. It gives the impression that the iPhone will compete against these devices, when, it really does not.
( A lot of ) People know what smartphone means - its more business orientated and more flexible than a regular phone. This isn't the iPhone.
Its misleading. It gives the impression that the iPhone will compete against these devices, when, it really does not.
( A lot of ) People know what smartphone means - its more business orientated and more flexible than a regular phone. This isn't the iPhone.
That's one of the interesting tidbits about this phone, it really doesn't look like it's been aimed at business users. Apparently Apple decided to carve out a different territory that most phone makers have largely ignored.
Uhh...
Oh, I'm sorry, I said Exchange, right? Yes - Microsoft's proprietary method of retrieving and sending e-mails. And it's the standard that everyone uses. And Apple doesn't need to support it? Okay.
Oh, I'm sorry, I said Exchange, right? Yes - Microsoft's proprietary method of retrieving and sending e-mails. And it's the standard that everyone uses. And Apple doesn't need to support it? Okay.
From the keynote what Steve kept emphasizing is :
An iPod, a phone, an internet mobile communicator. An iPod, a phone, an internet mobile communicator.... these are NOT three separate devices!
In regards to being a smartphone it would meet this criteria by the following comment:
Why would we want to run such a sophisticated OS on a mobile device? It's got everything we need. Mulittasking, networking, power management, graphics, security, video, graphics, audio core animation
An iPod, a phone, an internet mobile communicator. An iPod, a phone, an internet mobile communicator.... these are NOT three separate devices!
In regards to being a smartphone it would meet this criteria by the following comment:
Why would we want to run such a sophisticated OS on a mobile device? It's got everything we need. Mulittasking, networking, power management, graphics, security, video, graphics, audio core animation
What I want to know is-Steve had Beatles music playing either on the phone or on a backdrop.
Isnt that hitting us over the head about who the Beatles will be signing with?
(without Steve coming right out and saying it?)
Isnt that hitting us over the head about who the Beatles will be signing with?
(without Steve coming right out and saying it?)
I totally agree.
Overall no complaints from me. Its a first generation product with a huge future. I'll just laugh all the way to the bank as my Apple stock keeps rising....
My mouth dropped open when I read that it doesn't support voice recognition. Huh? My POS LG Verizon phone can even do THAT. To me this is sounding like a Widescreen iPod that you could call people on if your real cell phone just so happens to get run over by a car.
the big deal about cingular?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...hive/2006/06/21/BUG9VJHB9C1.DTL&type=business
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cingular#Controversy
better customer service? many switched from cingular to t-mo on hofo.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...hive/2006/06/21/BUG9VJHB9C1.DTL&type=business
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cingular#Controversy
better customer service? many switched from cingular to t-mo on hofo.
Last time I checked OSX was XNU kernel + libc.
Everything else is value add for the Macintosh platform.
Now I agree with you that I would like to see more freedom, but lets keep these definitions, straight, please! Apple is not lying or even stretching the truth by claiming this thing runs a full OSX. It _does_ run a full OSX. It just appears that many people have a misunderstanding about what an operating system is.
But HOFO is just one big place to complain about your carrier, and if you work for a carrier, complain about everyone else's service.
Using that as a source for recommendations on carriers would be ridiculous.
not being harsh, just being real. the iphone may look sleek w/ an awesome UI, but the specs are dated - no flash, no GPS, no 3G, a 2.0mp camera? when the phone is released, it'll be even more dated then now.
give me at least flash + GPS and minus cingular, i'll be happily giving $800 to apple inc.
give me at least flash + GPS and minus cingular, i'll be happily giving $800 to apple inc.
I think you will see these sell like crazy at first then fizzle out and die as people realize that it can not do that things they need it to. The type of people it could attract are for example entrepreneurs, real-estate companies, people who can afford the $80 a month data contract and are not tied to a corporate environment (Exchange & Office). I could see it being really useful for a real estate agent.You mean the teenagers making $50k a year? Yeah, that's a huge market!
You mean the teenagers making $50k a year? Yeah, that's a huge market!
Nah, everyone does phones for kids, and phones for suits. This thing is for a whole different bunch of people, the ones who hate mobile phones.
on hofo, there are complaints and there are compliments. much like MR, there are fan boys but there also people that give out helpful advices.
locking into a carrier for 2 years and paying $500+ without reading up on hofo would be ridiculous.
locking into a carrier for 2 years and paying $500+ without reading up on hofo would be ridiculous.
Yeah, GSM is is a lot better. But some of us like to buy unlocked phones and use them with the SIM card from whatever carrier, or swap cards as needed.
Especially for travel, it's usually cheaper to buy a SIM card for whatever country you're traveling in and buy prepaid service than to pay Cingular or T-Mobile for roaming charges.
So even if T-Mobile gets the iPhone I still won't be happy till you can buy it unlocked.
Yes I know this but I am speaking on more common terms. When Steve said OS X I had grand envisions of using it somewhat like a computer where people can develop apps for the phone. Now all I see is a pretty phone that does some cool shiznit but also can't do some things that my 3 year old Sony Ericsson can do.
But who knows, Apple can change many things in the future. If they are touting this thing as the same category as the iPod then we know there isn't going to be many applications. Apple themselves even left out their Mac faithful gaming developers out of the loop for the iPod games.
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Hear hear. And not "Unlocked via some dubious third party process on the web" either, I want to see "iPhone for Cingular, iPhone for T-Mobile, iPhone (Unlocked)" as three entries on Amazon.com (or miss out one or both of the first two in that list.)
This is something people are expecting to pay hundreds of dollars - thousands if you include the contract - for, that will become a very personal part of you, and nobody cares if it's locked to a particular carrier?
I, personally, spend the extra to get phones that are unlocked. I may be in the minority there, but we're not talking about cheap throwaway phones here, it's something for keeps.
BTW to all the people who keep saying "I don't see why everyone's complaining about Cingular", we're complaining that it's locked to Cingular. And yes, I know some people are moaning that it's not available for Verizon - well, that's Verizon's fault for running an enhanced version of AMPS rather than a modern GSM/UMTS network. But ignore them, Verizon is not the only "other network" we want to be able to run this phone on, and Cingular is hardly perfect.
Wait... time out...
"Meanwhile Jobs admits that he wants to control every cough and spit that ends up on the iPhone. This includes things like ringtones."
No custom ring tones?
Idiots! I HATE sound-branding. Steve wants you to do free advertising for the damn thing, just like Allchin at Microsoft made the Vista startup sound impossible to replace. Who the hell wants a factory default ringtone these days?
"Meanwhile Jobs admits that he wants to control every cough and spit that ends up on the iPhone. This includes things like ringtones."
No custom ring tones?
Idiots! I HATE sound-branding. Steve wants you to do free advertising for the damn thing, just like Allchin at Microsoft made the Vista startup sound impossible to replace. Who the hell wants a factory default ringtone these days?
I'm not disagreeing, but if Apple didn't have Cingular to subsidize the cost, which is STILL pretty high, people would reject iPhone en masse at the pure thought of paying $900-$1000 for a phone/iPod. Apple can't sell it at a loss, so what's the only solution, to get the price down to where at least some Americans will pay? A partnership. With who? Well, you have T-Mobile and Cingular as the main GSM carriers.
Apple got lucky that Cingluar would subsidize them without crippling the phone and blasting its logos all over (as far as we know, either way it has more than most other phones in terms of freedom). The only Cingular thing I even saw on it was the name next to the bars, which should reflect what network it's on anyway.
All that Cingluar asks in return is exclusivity (for now) and a 2-year contract with them when you purchase. After exclusivity is over, I'm sure Apple will just sell the phone unlocked through its stores like it will do in Europe. At launch in the US, I don't think a significant number of American consumers care enough to have an unlocked phone to make it a big issue and sacrifice the deal with Cingluar.
As I stated in my earlier post, given what most carriers do to their phones in the US in terms of crippling (Verizon being the worst), Apple got really lucky that Cingular is subsidizing for practically nothing except the contract.
I addressed this already. See my previous posts. There is A LOT more on Verizon. More over, Cingular has IMPROVED, with a 56% improvement in customer service since 1st quarter last year. Keep in mind, Cingular is a company that recently acquired AT&T and Voicestream, thus making it the largest mobile carrier in the U.S. C'mon guys, enough with the freakin' hate, Verizon isn't the only good company in the U.S. Read about the NUMEROUS lawsuits on Bluetooth OBEX crippling, misleading billing tactics and advertisin Verizon Wireless is dealing with. Given time, Cingular will prove itself better and more reliable than Verizon. As Steve Jobs always says, "it's not where it's been, it's where it's going that is crucial".