mactastic said:And yes, chefs do get a little annoyed with people who order their fillet mignon well-done. It's a little like asking a computer geek to bring you a tricked-out MacPro with maxed out RAM and two 30" monitors so that you can send some email and surf the web in your spare time. Sure you'll do it 'cause they're paying, but it hurts you inside knowing that the machine will be essentially wasted on that person.
Well, like I said, it shouldn't mean you can't get it done well. All I'm saying is just picture yourself as a mac store employee dealing with a customer who asks you to get them a $10,000 MacPro so that they can get to web surfing and sending emails. Would you not feel like making a comment suggesting that they could get the same effect from a much cheaper machine? And when the customer threatened you if you didn't do what they said, would you feel at all bad about making the suggestion?annk said:I know some chefs and waiters do behave this way, but I think it's a case of them not having tasted different cuts of meat well done (in addition to being unacceptably bad manners). It's not hard to distinguish quality, even if the meat is cooked all the way through.
I remember once when I politely ordered a steak in a really good restaurant, and the waiter looked at me disdainfully when I (in response to his question) said "well done", and said, "You don't need to order an expensive cut if you're going to have it well done."
I looked at him, still very polite, and asked him it is was usual in that establishment to question the paying customers' choices, and if perhaps he would prefer that his superior waited on me. He turned bright red, said "No, ma'm", and fled.
My steak was well done, and I didn't leave a tip.
mactastic said:Well, like I said, it shouldn't mean you can't get it done well. All I'm saying is just picture yourself as a mac store employee dealing with a customer who asks you to get them a $10,000 MacPro so that they can get to web surfing and sending emails. Would you not feel like making a comment suggesting that they could get the same effect from a much cheaper machine? And when the customer threatened you if you didn't do what they said, would you feel at all bad about making the suggestion?
Again, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to pay good money for shoe leather on your plate if that's what you want to do. It's your money, and I'm not going to object if you want to (IMHO) throw it away. It's also not an excuse for a waiter to be rude to a customer. But food conniseurs feel the same way that computer conniseurs do when someone does something that is pretty universally (among conniseurs) seen as a waste of a perfectly good product.
Fair enough. I'm not judging you, just (hopefully) providing insight into why someone might be a little sad about cooking a fillet mignon to 165 degrees.annk said:I guess what I meant, is that I can easily detect a good piece of meat from a lesser cut, even though I like it well done. And, naturally, I want to be able to order a nice cut when I go out. I don't consider it ruining the meat, that's just the way I like it. If I order a lesser cut, I don't get as much taste / texture enjoyment out of it. Those of us who like our meat well done, don't consider it shoe leather.And we certainly don't look disdainfully at those eating their meat other ways, turn up our noses and say they're throwing away their money.
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I don't think the Mac comparison is accurate. I get 100% enjoyment out of my well-done meat, I'm not missing out on any functions or aspects of the meat by having it fried a bit longer. You could even turn it around, and say that those who don't have their meat well done, are getting gypped! They're paying for a service that isn't being completed, hehe.![]()
What a connoiseur thinks is irrelevant, the important thing with food is to enjoy it.
To each his own, I say, and no judgements.![]()
mactastic said:Fair enough. I'm not judging you, just (hopefully) providing insight into why someone might be a little sad about cooking a fillet mignon to 165 degrees.
lexus said:Medium rare seems very popular.
You are one of the rarest types of steak eaters.~Shard~ said:I rarely eat steak, but when I do I like it medium well.
bousozoku said:Most people will choose medium because they don't want to commit themselves to either side and be noticed.![]()