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I don’t want to burst your bubble (am 38 years old), but actually that’s EXACTLY Apple’s target audience these days, millennials. Why do you think they are trying to rebrand and reposition themselves as a lifestyle company? Because they need to keep their cool, to be included with all the FB, Instagram and Snapchat teens/crowd.

After a fresh install of ElCapitan on 2 macs last weekend, i had to delete all those pre-installed bookmarks
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Horrifying thought:

What if it gets worse?

Think about a MacBook Air refresh with only a power port and a headphone port. Resurrecting the eMac for a lower cost Edu offering with 5200 RPM drives all across the board (imagine your impression as a student using that). Touchbar 2 and new oversized trackpads and new even thinner keyboards across the entire mobile line. A new Mac Mini using the ultrabook series CPU without any fan to keep it “extra thin” and no ports but power and a single displayport out (wireless peripherals only). A Mac Pro that offers the loadout customization of a PC starting at 5K and comes with ultra slow fans because “whisper quiet” is a “pro need”.

Can you see it happening?

IF there is a new mac mini, that will probably be half the size and glued shut.
 
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Worse, the made it impossible for end users to do it themselves.

Apples new policy, need more RAM, buy a new Computer

Actually, their policy is "need more RAM, buy somebody else's computer". I bought a maxed out Retina Pro in November 2012. I can't buy a laptop with more RAM from Apple, at any price.
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Well, there are no LPDDR3 SO-DIMMs. And the memory controller doesn’t support more than 16G of it...

And yet HP, Dell, and Lenovo will all happily sell me laptops with 32GB of RAM.
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Which then begs the question - if someone using supposedly bad “predictions” ends up having a better track record than another person relying on “good predictions”, what are the chances that the bad predictions actually the good ones, and vice versa?

"Begging the question" does not mean what you seem to think it does: https://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/circular.html
 
  • The storage media will be a MicroSD card.
  • No RAM; just swap to 'disk' at all times.
  • A single USB C port.
  • Powered by a Celeron from year ago.
  • As "thin" as an iPhone 5s.
  • Starting at $599 USD.
80% thinner size support by m2 technologies
 
In regards to half the size and sealed shut (expobill), i’ll add; the monitor is your docked iPad Only, and I would go with a recycled plastic(seeing how we have only recycled 9% of all the plastic ever produced).
Edit- Oh and that gives the consumer nanomac a touchscreen, and some whimsy. It gives your iPad a local backup, and shifts into desktop mode. Bring your own keyboard and mouse or trackpad you like to use. Of course the iPad could eye track someday.
 
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Nobody is suggesting that the product line up needs to be refreshed every year but it certainly needs to feel "up to date" which is not currently the case. Apple's Mac customers should be salivating and resisting the temptation to upgrade and renew, instead they're depressed and putting off the decision for as long as possible in the hope that next year's machines will be desirable.

I don't even care whether it is "up to date" as in cutting edge, but "objectively better than my 3 year old machine" would be a good start.

Right now, i own a 13" Macbook Pro from 2015 and feel that it is superior to the current offerings from Apple in that segment... because of the keyboard primarily.
 
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Actually, their policy is "need more RAM, buy somebody else's computer". I bought a maxed out Retina Pro in November 2012. I can't buy a laptop with more RAM from Apple, at any price.
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And yet HP, Dell, and Lenovo will all happily sell me laptops with 32GB of RAM.
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"Begging the question" does not mean what you seem to think it does: https://philosophy.lander.edu/logic/circular.html

Yes, they do. With bigger battery and worse battery life because DDR4 do not have saving states the LPDDR3 do have. Take a look on a XPS 13". They have a 16 GB limit as well. There is no other laptop as light as MBP 15" with the same battery life, AFAIK.
 
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Tons of people also have lightning docks and accessories and people always complain when they get rid of a port.

That didn't save the headphone port... the removal of which would have been the ideal (well, least-worst) time to switch to USB-C, before people really started buying lightning headphones. So, we have the strange situation of Apple pushing USB-C on pro laptops where merging multiple, unrelated functions into one port is a pain in the neck, but not on mobile devices where USB-C is actually a useful improvement & multi-function ports a necessity...

However, I agree that USB-C on mobiles is going to be short-lived as they're on course to become 100% wireless (which makes sense for a phone, and is worth a few compromises).
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They have a 16 GB limit as well. There is no other laptop as light as MBP 15" with the same battery life, AFAIK.

...irrelevant, because even the MBP only gives an hour or two of battery life when doing the sort of CPU/GPU intensive work that goes with actually needing more than 16GB of RAM. The users who need that sort of memory will have their laptops running on mains wherever possible (...and even planes and trains offer laptop power nowadays).

The 2016 MBP re-design actually reduced the battery capacity, instead relying on features of the new CPU that save power when idle/lightly loaded.

This is one reason why the current MBPs aren't "pro" computers, they're fancy ultrabooks with specs designed to win at Top Trumps rather than to make practical sense. Why would anybody want to connect twin 5k displays and dual external 20Gb/s SSD RAIDs to a machine with so-so mobile graphics and only 16GB RAM (and nowhere to plug a USB memory stick)? What's the point of the machine being thin and light if you have to carry an external drive everywhere because you'd need a second mortgage to get more than 512GB of internal storage?

They'd be perfect for a vlogger who wanted to go and edit video of extreme kite surfing on Lake Tahoe while the real video crew filmed them on proper equipment for an ad campaign. Except... I can't see why that vlogger would buy a Mac instead of an iPhone...
 
Exactly, I am just hoping they are being extremely patient for some reason. But I am more worried that I don't fit their demographic anymore.

Apple is not exercising "patience," they are preparing for a transition--to ARM. The "transition" was mentioned in passing by Craig during the Keynote and the upgrade time delay is reminiscent of the PPC to Intel transition.


The pic comment made me laugh. I do miss Forstall and the old design language. Everything about Apple now is so...sterile. Not fun.

Kind of like Siri.


Hopefully you got the quad core, ‘cause those are never coming back

Maybe. It would be possible now, and maybe with ARM CPUs, but the question is whether Apple's marketing would allow it due to product segmentation.


I also think it’s worth revisiting this interview about the Mac Pro held last year, so as to keep everyone’s expectations realistic.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/05/apples-2019-imac-pro-will-be-shaped-by-workflows/

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This is likely Apple’s vision of modularity - plugging in various accessories and peripherals to expand the versatility of your device.

Those wishing that Apple would quickly throw some parts together and ship a new Mac Pro will be disappointed.

On the bright side, Apple has in the very least admitted that it got the 2013 Mac Pro wrong and is now using that to its advantage by taking the time to rethink its entire approach to pro workflows. This doesn't mean that Apple will be successful in its pro strategy, but there is no denying that Apple is giving the topic significant resources and attention.

More than what it probably deserves at any rate, but that’s Apple for you, I guess.

I wish I had read this more carefully when the original interview was published. It sounds like Apple was experimenting with ARM clusters--ARM-based iMacs and MBPs whose work was supplemented with ARM-based iOS devices.

Could Apple be experimenting with something similar in concept to the PS3 architecture, only "modular" (=expandable) in nature?
 
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I wish I had read this more carefully when the original interview was published. It sounds like Apple was experimenting with ARM clusters--ARM-based iMacs and MBPs whose work was supplemented with ARM-based iOS devices.

Could Apple be experimenting with something similar in concept to the PS3 architecture, only "modular" (=expandable) in nature?
Sorry, you have lost me in this regard. I have no idea what arm clusters are, so I can’t really add much to said discussion here.
 
I don’t want to burst your bubble (am 38 years old), but actually that’s EXACTLY Apple’s target audience these days, millennials. Why do you think they are trying to rebrand and reposition themselves as a lifestyle company? Because they need to keep their cool, to be included with all the FB, Instagram and Snapchat teens/crowd.

Teenagers aren't millennials, though. At best, an eighteen-year-old barely still qualified as a millennial, but really, teenagers are Generation Z. Millennials are in their twenties and thirties.

So are you trying to pigeonhole Generation Z here?

This is the same audience that most companies target nowadays to show how cool and modern they are. This is the target audience who leads the innovations and makes or breaks coolness...

Trust me, just check around you and research a little bit more and you will understand that I am right...

It's weird that you're accusing Apple of pigeon-holing its customers while you yourself are pigeonholing (incorrectly) an entire generation of people.
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Sorry, you have lost me in this regard. I have no idea what arm clusters are, so I can’t really add much to said discussion here.

The suggestion here appears to be that Macs would run ARM in order to serve as a computing grid combined with iOS devices, such that you could dynamically add a Mac to a CPU-intensive task the same way you can add an eGPU to a GPU-intensive task.
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Apple is not exercising "patience," they are preparing for a transition--to ARM. The "transition" was mentioned in passing by Craig during the Keynote and the upgrade time delay is reminiscent of the PPC to Intel transition.

Craig definitely did not mention a Mac ARM transition, nor has there been any other statement from Apple to that effect.
 
Teenagers aren't millennials, though. At best, an eighteen-year-old barely still qualified as a millennial, but really, teenagers are Generation Z. Millennials are in their twenties and thirties.

So are you trying to pigeonhole Generation Z here?



It's weird that you're accusing Apple of pigeon-holing its customers while you yourself are pigeonholing (incorrectly) an entire generation of people.
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The suggestion here appears to be that Macs would run ARM in order to serve as a computing grid combined with iOS devices, such that you could dynamically add a Mac to a CPU-intensive task the same way you can add an eGPU to a GPU-intensive task.
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Craig definitely did not mention a Mac ARM transition, nor has there been any other statement from Apple to that effect.
"Teenagers aren't millennials, though. At best, an eighteen-year-old barely still qualified as a millennial, but really, teenagers are Generation Z. Millennials are in their twenties and thirties.

So are you trying to pigeonhole Generation Z here?"

My opinion? the 35 year old and under crowd.
 
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Craig definitely did not mention a Mac ARM transition, nor has there been any other statement from Apple to that effect.

If you read between the lines, then I believe he did admit Apple plans to transition to ARM.

During the Keynote, Craig stated that Apple is porting iOS apps over to macOS in Mojave and--this is crucial--he stated that this was part of a multi-phase, "multi-year project."

So what kind of project involves bringing iOS over to MacOS?

Craig spoke the truth when he said Apple has no intention of conflating iOS and macOS, because they do use different UIs. However, Apple is beginning to unify the underlying APIs and consequently I have no doubt that Apple will also unify the underlying hardware (i.e. ARM).
 
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If you read between the lines, then I believe he did admit Apple plans to transition to ARM.

During the Keynote, Craig stated that Apple is porting iOS apps over to macOS in Mojave and--this is crucial--he stated that this was part of a multi-phase, "multi-year project."

So what kind of project involves bringing iOS over to MacOS?

Marzipan. They have an early version ready for Mojave in apps like News, but it won't be ready for developers until next year. Hence multi-year.

This has nothing to do with CPU architecture. Consider, too, that most iOS apps run on x86 anyway, through iOS Simulator.

Craig spoke the truth when he said Apple has no intention of conflating iOS and macOS, because they do use different UIs. However, Apple is beginning to unify the underlying APIs and consequently I have no doubt that Apple will also unify the underlying hardware (i.e. ARM).

Cocoa Touch has always run on x86. It has nothing to do with architectures.

There may or may not be a project to bring macOS to ARM, but it won't have anything to do with the UI framework.
 
And their customer service on their discussion forms is useless
There are so many unsolved problems pleadeing for a solution, but they will not stop to cover their asses

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Go,back where you found the iPhone and nail it to a telephone pole eye level. The owner will then find their phone!


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[doublepost=1529856294][/doublepost]So I decided that Apple are bullies, don’t care but their legal welfare, and are not my friends anymore so I posted this after their email:

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No, it really isn't.

Well - if you're ok with security vulnerabilities as a constant feature, then go with Windows. If you want to accept security vulnerability as a big glaring hole in your OS, then go with Linux. Myself, I'm sticking with the most secure OS out there right now (lumps and all), thanks much.
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But that's the point. Windows 10 is actually reliable, secure, and workable. My work has completely converted to it and I use it at home too. So your premise, ("with all the associated problems") just doesn't apply to the great majority of users.

By comparison, Mac is NOT "working so well" anymore. This thread should have made this painfully obvious by now.

Windows 10 - compared to macOS - is not nearly as secure. Much of its security features are layered over the existing OS much like third-party apps do. With macOS, it is integrated much more deeply than Windows. Granted, MS has made great strides towards hardening their OS, but it still is not nearly as secure as macOS.
 
Well - if you're ok with security vulnerabilities as a constant feature, then go with Windows. If you want to accept security vulnerability as a big glaring hole in your OS, then go with Linux. Myself, I'm sticking with the most secure OS out there right now (lumps and all), thanks much.
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Windows 10 - compared to macOS - is not nearly as secure. Much of its security features are layered over the existing OS much like third-party apps do. With macOS, it is integrated much more deeply than Windows. Granted, MS has made great strides towards hardening their OS, but it still is not nearly as secure as macOS.

not a single thing said in this post as any basis in reality.
 
Well - if you're ok with security vulnerabilities as a constant feature, then go with Windows. If you want to accept security vulnerability as a big glaring hole in your OS, then go with Linux. Myself, I'm sticking with the most secure OS out there right now (lumps and all), thanks much.
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Windows 10 - compared to macOS - is not nearly as secure. Much of its security features are layered over the existing OS much like third-party apps do. With macOS, it is integrated much more deeply than Windows. Granted, MS has made great strides towards hardening their OS, but it still is not nearly as secure as macOS.

I am sorry, but none of your statements are based on current facts. Maybe there was a hint of truth in your story one or more decades ago, but, even then since Windows NT (starting with XP), your opinion has no valid grounds whatsoever. Just Google the subject before you state more of these 'facts'.
 
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Well - if you're ok with security vulnerabilities as a constant feature, then go with Windows. If you want to accept security vulnerability as a big glaring hole in your OS, then go with Linux. Myself, I'm sticking with the most secure OS out there right now (lumps and all), thanks much.
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Windows 10 - compared to macOS - is not nearly as secure. Much of its security features are layered over the existing OS much like third-party apps do. With macOS, it is integrated much more deeply than Windows. Granted, MS has made great strides towards hardening their OS, but it still is not nearly as secure as macOS.

This may have been a fair assessment in the XP era (even that is debatable), but not since NT 6 (Vista).
 
Well - if you're ok with security vulnerabilities as a constant feature, then go with Windows. If you want to accept security vulnerability as a big glaring hole in your OS, then go with Linux. Myself, I'm sticking with the most secure OS out there right now (lumps and all), thanks much.
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Windows 10 - compared to macOS - is not nearly as secure. Much of its security features are layered over the existing OS much like third-party apps do. With macOS, it is integrated much more deeply than Windows. Granted, MS has made great strides towards hardening their OS, but it still is not nearly as secure as macOS.
You might want to take a better look at the changes Microsoft made to the Windows security model in Vista and refined it since that. It's nowhere near the Swiss cheese it used to be before XP SP2. While I've previously considered macOS to be more secure, the kind of security blunders they've had in High Sierra alone don't really inspire confidence. Quite the contrary actually, if those have made it past QA, what else is there a bit deeper?
 
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