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I am sure Apollo would be happy to pay for the use. but what they want to charge is insane. not to mention they offered the API free of charge and now they want to charge. the user base itself was increased thanks to 3rd party devs

not to mention you could have different tired access to the API's since you can throttle the requests....

$12,000 for 50 million requests does not seem "insane". Are there 3rd party Facebook, Twitter (now), Instagram, Snapchat, etc. apps? Not really. Developers were never guaranteed free or even any usage for life...
 
You can (and should) boycott Reddit if you want but I'm not sure it will make much impact. Apollo users are said to be upwards to 1.5 million (active? probably much less). Reddit has upwards of 800m+ active users a month. I'm not sure they will even notice. Not everyone will boycott. But you do you.
A lot of subreddits are going dark in protest of this update. 2 whole days of no activity could make an impact
 
Imagine still not understanding the situation and then making a comment like this. Reddit is charging an exorbitant amount for third-party app developers to use Reddit, significantly more than anyone else would ever possibly charge, effectively running them out of business. Reddit is effectively cutting off anyone's ability to make third-party apps for Reddit because of greed. It's greed. Nothing more. It's perfectly okay for Reddit to charge a fee for third-party developers to use their API. What's not okay is charging so much that a business model isn't possible.

Is it not possible? If Apollo has 1.5m users, and they can pay $15-$20 a year for it, then they can pay the API fees and still make a hefty profit. Is $20/year worth it for the app? I have no idea. But it's still feasible. I'm sure reddit is charging more than they need to but that's pretty much how the world works, isn't it.

That math doesn't seem impossible to me for a business model. Just saying.
 
Wow, I hate to break it to Reddit, but a lot of these users won't be converting to the Reddit app. Personally, I'll probably just stop using Reddit all together.
People always say things like that, but a good chunk of them don't stick to it. It's like people saying they'll move to Canada if Trump wins, or if Biden wins, etc. How many celebrities threatened to move to Europe after 2016? lol
 
Reddit is a business that has never turned a profit, and they're going to run out of cash and shut down if they don't change that. They have to find a way to get cash flow positive, and there's two basic options - double down on ad revenue, which means third-party apps that strip them would need to pay an equivalent amount for access, or move to subscriptions.

The amount may be debatable, but Reddit's need to generate revenue isn't.
 
Is it not possible? If Apollo has 1.5m users, and they can pay $15-$20 a year for it, then they can pay the API fees and still make a hefty profit. Is $20/year worth it for the app? I have no idea. But it's still feasible. I'm sure reddit is charging more than they need to but that's pretty much how the world works, isn't it.
Actually that isn't that much and would be worth it. I don't understand why he would just shut the app down then instead of asking the users if they'd be willing to pay more.
 
Is it not possible? If Apollo has 1.5m users, and they can pay $15-$20 a year for it, then they can pay the API fees and still make a hefty profit. Is $20/year worth it for it? I have no idea. But it's still feasible. I'm sure reddit is charging more than they need to but that's pretty much how the world works, isn't it.
Is it possible? Yes. Is it what Apollo wants? No. He hired a PR agency to spin this **** up because he wants to keep enjoying the revenue he gets today (50,000 subs of average $10/year according to his post) without paying any costs.
 
I've used Boost for years... it's been a joy to use and filter out all the toxic subreddits (looking at you, r/TwoXChromosomes). I suspect my time spent (wasted) on Reddit will drop like a stone.

First Netflix screws over everyone with family plans, then rarbg goes down, and now reddit... what's next?
 
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Actually that isn't that much and would be worth it. I don't understand why he would just shut the app down then instead of asking the users if they'd be willing to pay more.
Because it used to be that people would pay him X with cost 0.

Now he would have to charge a user 2X with cost Y.

While 2X is > Y. It's not high enough for his effort, so he just jetted out of there. (He has other projects, like the pixel widgets etc).
 
I've used Boost for years... it's been a joy to use and filter out all the toxic subreddits (looking at you, r/TwoXChromosomes). I suspect my time spent (wasted) on Reddit will drop like a stone.

First Netflix screws over everyone with family plans, then rarbg goes down, and now reddit... what's next?
You're recommending an Android-only app on an Apple forum. That's helpful.
 
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I've used Boost for years... it's been a joy to use and filter out all the toxic subreddits (looking at you, r/TwoXChromosomes). I suspect my time spent (wasted) on Reddit will drop like a stone.

First Netflix screws over everyone with family plans, then rarbg goes down, and now reddit... what's next?

Well at least the internet can't shut down forever.

That is mostly impossible.
 
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A comparable PCIe SSD to Apple's $2000 SSD is around $1000, not $300, but yes, they are charging twice as much for no reason.
You know full well that the WD drive I linked is easily comparable, it's one of the fastest available on the market with 7.3gb/s read speeds. For $300. Apple doesn't even tell you the specs on their SSDs. LOL.
 
What's not okay is charging so much that a business model isn't possible.

Sorry but I have to disagree. Reddit can charge whatever they want for their APIs. Building your house on top on someone else's foundation is not wise.

Should they kill off popular third-party apps... probably not, users tend not to like this.

Does it suck for the dev and users.... yes.

That being said, any dev of third-party front ends should be on notice by now that the rug can be pulled out from under their feet at any time. Either have API access contracts or don't have all your eggs in one basket.
 
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Imagine telling Wal-mart you will use their entire infrastructure for FREE to sell your own stuff and getting mad they now want to make you pay to use their store to sell your goods all while already charging users a monthly/yearly fee.
Imagine that scenario, except Wal-Mart wants to charge you 10x your current price per item, and charge you for every previous item you already sold in perpetuity.

Reddit asking for money is perfectly reasonable. But they are asking more than 2x what they make per user on their own ad platform. What does that mean? It means literally reddit themselves cannot monetize their users at a rate to pay for their own API without bleeding money.

I'm done with reddit now, Apollo was the only interface that made it useful.

What they should have done is simple. "Reddit Pro" - no ads, monthly fee. Ability to use any third party app. Done. That puts the onus on the third party apps to justify their own subscription cost. Free users are stuck with the crappy reddit app experience.
 
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