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Imagine profiting from Reddit for almost a decade and now shutting down your App because they want you to pay to use their API. Reddit is a business not a charity.

You can use the official app, which is free.
Again, since you clearly didn't read, it's not the fact that they want him tp pay. It's the PRICE they are charging is absolutely ridiculous. Thats the issue here.
 
Sorry but I have to disagree. Reddit can charge whatever they want for their APIs. Building your house on top on someone else's foundation is not wise.

Should they kill off popular third-party apps... probably not, users tend not to like this.

Does it suck for the dev and users.... yes.

That being said any dev of third-party front ends should be on notice by now that the rug can be pulled out from under their feet at any time. Either have API access contracts or don't have all your eggs in one basket.
If you ever create app or business let me know - will avoid with this not-customer-oriented attitude:)

Same goes for Apple - they can ask whatever they want for replacement parts because soon every part coming from other original apple phone will have to be blessed by Apple to work. Which is hilarious.

Tried to not be rude. Sorry for Ad Persona.

Edit: Sorry I don’t get this argument, 3rd API requires to get paid, Apollo is not avoiding money gratification to Reddit. They are paying as they should otherwise it will be told years ago and blocked already. It’s just greed due to think - if we request more they will pay because they care about their customers.

Edit2: If you create a possibility for someone else to make a purchase in your shop in someone name and this gives you huge profits for sure and allows to get more customers it’s literally stupid to start 'killing the goose that lays the golden eggs'
 
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Since we’re here, I recommend the book “You should quit Reddit”. I already reduced my presence to a bare minimum, and I have been thinking about shutting it down for a while. Considering that I’ll lose my very old account, I might just never come back to Reddit.

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Again, since you clearly didn't read, it's not the fact that they want him tp pay. It's the PRICE they are charging is absolutely ridiculous. Thats the issue here.
Yep, I know all about it. Reddit is free to stop 3rd party access just like Twitter did. They are a business, not a charity, and plan on having an IPO. They need revenue, and if they can’t from third party it will be from their own official app which is perfectly fine.

Anyway, usage will drop but many will crawl back in a few weeks.
 
You know full well that the WD drive I linked is easily comparable, it's one of the fastest available on the market with 7.3gb/s read speeds. For $300. Apple doesn't even tell you the specs on their SSDs. LOL.
What are you talking about? 2000 bucks is for the 8 terabyte SSD. There are no 8 terabyte SSDs for that read/write speed for 300 dollars. You linked to a 4 terabyte SSD.
 
Just another reminder that when you build your business model on someone else's business model, you better have a backup plan. First TweetBot, now Apollo. I have been unwilling to give Flexibits anymore money because they want a subscription for a service that Google or Apple provides. If they hosted their own calendars, I would do it, but I am not going to pay them monthly to provide a pretty front-end for other people's services. All it takes is another API shutdown and they will need to pivot too.
 
Reddit is a business that has never turned a profit, and they're going to run out of cash and shut down if they don't change that. They have to find a way to get cash flow positive, and there's two basic options - double down on ad revenue, which means third-party apps that strip them would need to pay an equivalent amount for access, or move to subscriptions.

The amount may be debatable, but Reddit's need to generate revenue isn't.
Or require 3rd party apps to display their ads in feeds? I don't know why this is never discussed.
 
Yep, I know all about it. Reddit is free to stop 3rd party access just like Twitter did. They are a business, not a charity, and plan on having an IPO. They need revenue, and if they can’t from third party it will be from their own official app which is perfectly fine.

Anyway, usage will drop but many will crawl back in a few weeks.
Other than its missing basic features because... censorship... Well even if Apollo kept the app and started charging users they already said the new API blocks all censored data so it would be useless. Reddit is sabotaging their own platform. I don't use Reddit in a browser. That's the only way in the future to see all of Reddit.

Nothing to crawl back to.
 
Deleted my Reddit account over this. It won't change anything, but the website is going to become mostly bots and low effort content as the high quality users leave. Similar thing is happening with Twitter, open any tweet and all of the most vapid and unrelated replies are shown first.
Actually, isn't part of this move to charge for the API to limit the number of bots? Now (some) bot makers have to pay for access. Many won't do that.
 
Actually, isn't part of this move to charge for the API to limit the number of bots? Now (some) bot makers have to pay for access. Many won't do that.
No, it's to kill 3rd party apps while looking innocent. If they only cared about bots, they could easily cut deals with the major app makers. They will probably use that excuse even though it's totally irrelevant here.
 
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Deleted my Reddit account over this. It won't change anything, but the website is going to become mostly bots and low effort content as the high quality users leave. Similar thing is happening with Twitter, open any tweet and all of the most vapid and unrelated replies are shown first.
I just deleted two accounts, and leaving one open which will die on June 30th as I don’t remember the password and can’t reset it.
 
I've honestly never seen so much of the internet shill for a multi-millionaire before. Apollo has earned over 5Million in cash for him (whether you think that's justified or not) and it's mind blowing why so many are interested in the dispute between a billionaire and a multi-millionaire. It's like a football player disputing against the owners. Both sides have way too much money for me to be empathetic to either side.

"Multi-millionaire" 😂 You cannot be serious.
 
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I think Reddit is an American thing. I don’t know anyone who uses it here (England) but it sure sounds like a raw deal for this guy and his app, similar to what Twitter did a few months ago.
And yet everyone I know here uses it. Probably best not to use such small sample sizes to infer larger use numbers.
 
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Is it not possible? If Apollo has 1.5m users, and they can pay $15-$20 a year for it, then they can pay the API fees and still make a hefty profit. Is $20/year worth it for the app? I have no idea. But it's still feasible. I'm sure reddit is charging more than they need to but that's pretty much how the world works, isn't it.

That math doesn't seem impossible to me for a business model. Just saying.

The issue is that he’s looking at baseline costs of $2.50 per month per user, just for the Reddit API. This doesn’t factor in other API call costs, server costs, etc. Add on other stuff, plus the 30% cut to Apple, and you’d need to charge somewhere in the range of $50-60 per year.

This is also assuming usage doesn’t change much. If usage changes dramatically, the costs can increase substantially, as it’s nearly 25 cents per 1000 API calls. He’d need to keep tabs on it, cut off high usage users on a regular basis, and likely go with a monthly (not annual) model and adjust prices frequently.

The other option is to just charge users per API request with a markup, meaning heavy users could easily be on the hook for $20 or $30 per month or more just for using Reddit.
 
This is super unfortunate news, but I don't believe people will stop using Reddit all together. I love Apollo, but I'm certainly not going to give up Reddit over this.

Anybody who says they will should authentically ask themself, "Am I never going to log in again? Am I never going to READ the result of a Google search if I see it comes from Reddit?"
Opening the site with no account and an adblocker turned on only costs them money and gives them nothing in return. You could semantically argue that's still using Reddit, but it's not going there just to browse for hours and engage which is what actually makes them money.
 
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No, it's to kill 3rd party apps while looking innocent. If they only cared about bots, they could easily cut deals with the major app makers. They will probably use that excuse even though it's totally irrelevant here.
The cited reasons were to curb the crawling of their data from bots. Many of them using it for AI training models. Data is powerful and making an effort to control their data is not unreasonable. I do agree though they could have worked deals with apps like Apollo if they wanted to. And maybe they did work deals with some bots and apps. They still allow free access to certain bots and academic reasons.
 
Is it not possible? If Apollo has 1.5m users, and they can pay $15-$20 a year for it, then they can pay the API fees and still make a hefty profit. Is $20/year worth it for the app? I have no idea. But it's still feasible. I'm sure reddit is charging more than they need to but that's pretty much how the world works, isn't it.

That math doesn't seem impossible to me for a business model. Just saying.
According to Chrisitans post there are only about 50,000 yearly subscribers, so it isn't being divided across 1.5 million people.
 
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