Again, since you clearly didn't read, it's not the fact that they want him tp pay. It's the PRICE they are charging is absolutely ridiculous. Thats the issue here.Imagine profiting from Reddit for almost a decade and now shutting down your App because they want you to pay to use their API. Reddit is a business not a charity.
You can use the official app, which is free.
If you ever create app or business let me know - will avoid with this not-customer-oriented attitudeSorry but I have to disagree. Reddit can charge whatever they want for their APIs. Building your house on top on someone else's foundation is not wise.
Should they kill off popular third-party apps... probably not, users tend not to like this.
Does it suck for the dev and users.... yes.
That being said any dev of third-party front ends should be on notice by now that the rug can be pulled out from under their feet at any time. Either have API access contracts or don't have all your eggs in one basket.
Yep, I know all about it. Reddit is free to stop 3rd party access just like Twitter did. They are a business, not a charity, and plan on having an IPO. They need revenue, and if they can’t from third party it will be from their own official app which is perfectly fine.Again, since you clearly didn't read, it's not the fact that they want him tp pay. It's the PRICE they are charging is absolutely ridiculous. Thats the issue here.
What are you talking about? 2000 bucks is for the 8 terabyte SSD. There are no 8 terabyte SSDs for that read/write speed for 300 dollars. You linked to a 4 terabyte SSD.You know full well that the WD drive I linked is easily comparable, it's one of the fastest available on the market with 7.3gb/s read speeds. For $300. Apple doesn't even tell you the specs on their SSDs. LOL.
Or require 3rd party apps to display their ads in feeds? I don't know why this is never discussed.Reddit is a business that has never turned a profit, and they're going to run out of cash and shut down if they don't change that. They have to find a way to get cash flow positive, and there's two basic options - double down on ad revenue, which means third-party apps that strip them would need to pay an equivalent amount for access, or move to subscriptions.
The amount may be debatable, but Reddit's need to generate revenue isn't.
Other than its missing basic features because... censorship... Well even if Apollo kept the app and started charging users they already said the new API blocks all censored data so it would be useless. Reddit is sabotaging their own platform. I don't use Reddit in a browser. That's the only way in the future to see all of Reddit.Yep, I know all about it. Reddit is free to stop 3rd party access just like Twitter did. They are a business, not a charity, and plan on having an IPO. They need revenue, and if they can’t from third party it will be from their own official app which is perfectly fine.
Anyway, usage will drop but many will crawl back in a few weeks.
Actually, isn't part of this move to charge for the API to limit the number of bots? Now (some) bot makers have to pay for access. Many won't do that.Deleted my Reddit account over this. It won't change anything, but the website is going to become mostly bots and low effort content as the high quality users leave. Similar thing is happening with Twitter, open any tweet and all of the most vapid and unrelated replies are shown first.
No, it's to kill 3rd party apps while looking innocent. If they only cared about bots, they could easily cut deals with the major app makers. They will probably use that excuse even though it's totally irrelevant here.Actually, isn't part of this move to charge for the API to limit the number of bots? Now (some) bot makers have to pay for access. Many won't do that.
I just deleted two accounts, and leaving one open which will die on June 30th as I don’t remember the password and can’t reset it.Deleted my Reddit account over this. It won't change anything, but the website is going to become mostly bots and low effort content as the high quality users leave. Similar thing is happening with Twitter, open any tweet and all of the most vapid and unrelated replies are shown first.
I've honestly never seen so much of the internet shill for a multi-millionaire before. Apollo has earned over 5Million in cash for him (whether you think that's justified or not) and it's mind blowing why so many are interested in the dispute between a billionaire and a multi-millionaire. It's like a football player disputing against the owners. Both sides have way too much money for me to be empathetic to either side.
And yet everyone I know here uses it. Probably best not to use such small sample sizes to infer larger use numbers.I think Reddit is an American thing. I don’t know anyone who uses it here (England) but it sure sounds like a raw deal for this guy and his app, similar to what Twitter did a few months ago.
Is it not possible? If Apollo has 1.5m users, and they can pay $15-$20 a year for it, then they can pay the API fees and still make a hefty profit. Is $20/year worth it for the app? I have no idea. But it's still feasible. I'm sure reddit is charging more than they need to but that's pretty much how the world works, isn't it.
That math doesn't seem impossible to me for a business model. Just saying.
Opening the site with no account and an adblocker turned on only costs them money and gives them nothing in return. You could semantically argue that's still using Reddit, but it's not going there just to browse for hours and engage which is what actually makes them money.This is super unfortunate news, but I don't believe people will stop using Reddit all together. I love Apollo, but I'm certainly not going to give up Reddit over this.
Anybody who says they will should authentically ask themself, "Am I never going to log in again? Am I never going to READ the result of a Google search if I see it comes from Reddit?"
The cited reasons were to curb the crawling of their data from bots. Many of them using it for AI training models. Data is powerful and making an effort to control their data is not unreasonable. I do agree though they could have worked deals with apps like Apollo if they wanted to. And maybe they did work deals with some bots and apps. They still allow free access to certain bots and academic reasons.No, it's to kill 3rd party apps while looking innocent. If they only cared about bots, they could easily cut deals with the major app makers. They will probably use that excuse even though it's totally irrelevant here.
According to Chrisitans post there are only about 50,000 yearly subscribers, so it isn't being divided across 1.5 million people.Is it not possible? If Apollo has 1.5m users, and they can pay $15-$20 a year for it, then they can pay the API fees and still make a hefty profit. Is $20/year worth it for the app? I have no idea. But it's still feasible. I'm sure reddit is charging more than they need to but that's pretty much how the world works, isn't it.
That math doesn't seem impossible to me for a business model. Just saying.