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Imagine telling Wal-mart you will use their entire infrastructure for FREE to sell your own stuff and getting mad they now want to make you pay to use their store to sell your goods all while already charging users a monthly/yearly fee.
Imagine Wal-Mart says you can do it for free, then says you can do it for free for the medium-term and they’ll work out agreeable pricing with you over time, then suddenly says “$20 million per year or hit the road,” and starts trying to tar your reputation because their own products suck compared to yours and they know it.

But sure, Elon, I’m sure it’s just a matter of capitalism knowing best once again.
 
Imagine telling Wal-mart you will use their entire infrastructure for FREE to sell your own stuff and getting mad they now want to make you pay to use their store to sell your goods all while already charging users a monthly/yearly fee.


But, seriously, this is not at all what's happening. The numbers are there.
 
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All of this is just another greed-driven controversy. It's not that dissimilar to the Epic v Apple argument. One party wants to charge to use their stuff, the other party wants to pay less or none of it. Apollo v Reddit is on a different scale, sure, and being a small (though large userbase) app the argument feels different but it's sill the same idea.

The outcome is the same though. It's the consumers that lose the most.
 
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Have you seen the sizes of their subs? r/wallstreetbets alone has 14M. Do you really think a few thousand users getting hurt over an app would make any dent? People are going to forget soon as another flash news come along. People believing otherwise are just delusional.
Reddit's death will be slow, as most website deaths are. It happens as content becomes rarer and lower quality until the point that barely anybody wants to use it. Plus, they've been slowly pissing off users for probably a half decade at this point. Eventually it'll become too much. I'm interested to see how the depreciation of old.reddit.com will go. That one is gonna be fun to see in the headlines.
 
Would you be happy if Apple charged 60% of sales for use of their App Store instead of the 30% (which is already ridiculously high) ?? Perhaps 80% would be better?

I mean, if we're going to celebrate ripping off partners, let's hold Big Brother to the same standards!
Markups of 100% or more are very common in retail. One can definitely argue whether Apple should charge less or not, but lets not pretend that 30% is outrageously high compared to what other businesses charge either.
 
Markups of 100% or more are very common in retail. One can definitely argue whether Apple should charge less or not, but lets not pretend that 30% is outrageously high compared to what other businesses charge either.
Apple's worth trillions of dollars only because they've ripped off others and hoarded al the profits.

You can't even comprehend how much a billion dollars is, but Apple's got multiple trillions. Regular peasants like me and you would have our lives completely changed with a 'measly' million dollars. This company has NOT earned this kind of wealth. Stop giving Apple a pass.. this is EXACTLY how you get the kind of income INEQUALITY from the super rich and the dwindling middle WORKING class.
 
Reddit's death will be slow, as most website deaths are. It happens as content becomes rarer and lower quality until the point that barely anybody wants to use it. Plus, they've been slowly pissing off users for probably a half decade at this point. Eventually it'll become too much.
It's interesting if you look at the history of the internet and see the services that came out very quickly that have survived in one form or another. HTTP, FTP, Usenet, Mail, IRC, etc. Most of these services have changed forms and are controlled by a few companies. Only a few have changed hands over time. Reddit dominates the Usenet concept. I'm not sure I see much replacing it on the horizon.
 
Apple's worth trillions of dollars only because they've ripped off others and hoarded al the profits.

You can't even comprehend how much a billion dollars is, but Apple's got multiple trillions. Regular peasants like me and you would have our lives completely changed with a 'measly' million dollars. This company has NOT earned this kind of wealth. Stop giving Apple a pass.. this is EXACTLY how you get the kind of income INEQUALITY from the super rich and the dwindling middle WORKING class.
1 million seconds is 11 days, 1 billion seconds is 31 years. I wonder how long a trillion is.
 
Imagine telling Wal-mart you will use their entire infrastructure for FREE to sell your own stuff and getting mad they now want to make you pay to use their store to sell your goods all while already charging users a monthly/yearly fee.
I get your analogy but it’s a bit more nuanced here. Apollo is a huge reason people even use Reddit. Also, Walmart is paying for land, for people to sell and keep it all in order. Reddit expects to turn a crazy profit while expecting their users to do all that. Reddit is even moderated by its users.
 
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Imagine telling Wal-mart you will use their entire infrastructure for FREE to sell your own stuff and getting mad they now want to make you pay to use their store to sell your goods all while already charging users a monthly/yearly fee.
This isn’t even in the ballpark of what’s happening. Why would you post so cockily and confidently when you clearly have no idea of what the situation is?
 
Apple's worth trillions of dollars only because they've ripped off others and hoarded al the profits.

You can't even comprehend how much a billion dollars is, but Apple's got multiple trillions. Regular peasants like me and you would have our lives completely changed with a 'measly' million dollars. This company has NOT earned this kind of wealth. Stop giving Apple a pass.. this is EXACTLY how you get the kind of income INEQUALITY from the super rich and the dwindling middle WORKING class.
Apple's not to blame for income inequality. They're just playing the system by the book. It's the policies that created the system that are to blame.
 
Imagine telling Wal-mart you will use their entire infrastructure for FREE to sell your own stuff and getting mad they now want to make you pay to use their store to sell your goods all while already charging users a monthly/yearly fee.
Well we found Spez's account on MacRumors. Clearly doesn't know wtf he's talking about just like how he thought Christian (Apollo Dev) was threatening him lmfao.
 
I get your analogy but it’s a bit more nuanced here. Apollo is a huge reason people even use Reddit. Also, Walmart is paying for land, for people to sell and keep it all in order. Reddit expects to turn a crazy profit while expecting their users to do all that. Reddit is even moderated by its users.
The reality is Apollo isn't large enough for Reddit to worry about losing. Generally speaking, Apollo only has up to 1.5m users and only about 50k of them are paying subscriptions. The number of active users is probably even less. Compared to the 1.6 BILLION users on Reddit... I'm not sure they really care. Well, I guess it's obvious they don't.
 
Macrumors has proven to me that we need to bring back specific moderated forums. Even though I frequently disagree with users on here, I find everyone to be much more respectful and generally positive than any social media site.
Agreed. Macrumors is BY FAR my favorite online place… and they even banned me for a full year once.
 
It's more like if Walmart were only accessible through an unreliable Walmart bus network, and someone came along with a private car service that would ferry customers to the store, where they spent money, and then Walmart decided they didn't like that because their unreliable, trashy buses were just fine, and decided to demand the car service to pay $1000 every time one of their cars entered the parking lot.
And to add -
In comparison, Target has the exact same situation going ... but they charge only $500 every time one of the private cars enters the parking lot.

But Walmart decides it wants to follow Twitter's path because Spez is probably an Elon fanboy.
 
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Imagine Wal-Mart says you can do it for free, then says you can do it for free for the medium-term and they’ll work out agreeable pricing with you over time, then suddenly says “$20 million per year or hit the road,” and starts trying to tar your reputation because their own products suck compared to yours and they know it.

But sure, Elon, I’m sure it’s just a matter of capitalism knowing best once again.
Imagine Wal-Mart didn't even sell anything; it was just the building and other people added the items, reviewed the items and maintained the shelves for free because that's what Reddit is. It's built on the back of free links, free comments and free moderation.

They pay for the server space and spend time developing NFTs and killing off secret santa, third party clients and presumably soon old.reddit.com, the only decent way to use the website outside of Apollo.
 
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