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my IP6 is still good. all in one wire and wireless charging.. blahhhhhhhhh

i need some innovation from apple before buying anything else from them.
 
This makes me happy. We need better bluetooth headphones. This will force manufactures to make better ones so we all win.

And for those that say they will be switching to Android, well do it quick because they have already started dropping the headphone port and the rest will soon follow.
 
This makes me happy. We need better bluetooth headphones. This will force manufactures to make better ones so we all win.

And for those that say they will be switching to Android, well do it quick because they have already started dropping the headphone port and the rest will soon follow.

Yeah there are better ones but they suck on iPhone cause Apple doesn't support aptX that actually sounds decent.
Or if you want CD quality then just buy a Walkman and Sony LDAC Bluetooth headphones and you are good to go.
 
Seen a few posts arguing wire and wireless.

As such a fundamental aspect, wire still exists after centuries of development and still extremely strong. Wireless is relatively new although it does show some convenience over wire, such as longer device active range, easier to use to some extent.

However wireless means signals are transmitted through air, which is always and will inevitably be interfered by noise a lot easier than wire. Unless wireless signal can be sent through a high concentration invisible low power laser I don't think there is a chance wireless takes over wire, any time soon.

Headphone jack, as other members say, is a de facto standard for almost every single device. Apple is rumoured to remove it and then android manufacturers blindly follow and remove it in their flagship products. This happened before and will happen in foreseeable future.

I believe there are high tech labs researching wireless electricity transmission and if human is colonised on other planets, wire is simply not a solution to send huge amount of data or power across planets. The entire wireless may eventually take over wire but coexist with wire for nearly eternity.
 
What do you all think this will cost - $49.99?

The adapter as pictured?

I'm going to guess that particular adapter supports strictly stereo output for listening to music and does nothing else. So it has one DAC, DSP, and amp chipset, one lightning connector and one 3.5mm connector. My guess is even Apple will bring it in under $20. Third party Chinese manufacturers will bring it in under $10. In a couple of years it can be bought for around $5 at a convenience store.

Apple currently makes a 30-pin to Lightning adapter that consists of an obsolete 30-pin connector (so no volume discount), one Lightning connector, one DAC, DSP, and amp chipset, plus an ADC chipset, as well as circuitry to pass through power and data Bi directionally. And Apple sells that for only $29.
 
Why? Samsung phones are pretty damn good now. Their industrial design is far ahead of the ugly iPhone 6, and they're built extremely well.

Good thing looks are subjective. I like my iPhone's design And I find Samsung hardware ugly as hell especially the edge models.
 
Good thing looks are subjective. I like my iPhone's design And I find Samsung hardware ugly as hell especially the edge models.

Subjective as you say. Samsung hardware reviews well, and the Edge phones are often cited as good example of modern, forward looking industrial design. I see the Edge phones as something of a gimmick personally, but they're beautiful to my eyes, and they also look like props from science fiction movies, which is nice.

I loved the design of the iPhone 4, it really was a beautiful, perfect object. It's been downhill since then, and the 6, my word, it's ugly.

I'm hoping the 7 will be a game changer. Something daringly different and breath taking. Jony Ive has been off his game for a long time though, so I fear for the future of Apple design.
 
Fake. The lightning part isn't centered. Not even close.

And why in the world is immediately in quotes in the text:

"...the dongle appears to work "immediately" without any issues."

Unfortunately too many people have come to believe that putting quotes around a word acts as an intensifier like underlining, bold, or italics. It actually acts as a negation. Putting quotes around immediately indicates that it doesn't really happen immediately.
 
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Unfortunately too many people have come to believe that putting quotes around a word acts as an intensifier like underlining, bold, or italics. It actually acts as a negation. Putting quotes around immediately indicates that it doesn't really happen immediately.
Maybe they just want to highlight "immediately" without bold/italic/underline.
 
Subjective as you say. Samsung hardware reviews well, and the Edge phones are often cited as good example of modern, forward looking industrial design. I see the Edge phones as something of a gimmick personally, but they're beautiful to my eyes, and they also look like props from science fiction movies, which is nice.

I loved the design of the iPhone 4, it really was a beautiful, perfect object. It's been downhill since then, and the 6, my word, it's ugly.

I'm hoping the 7 will be a game changer. Something daringly different and breath taking. Jony Ive has been off his game for a long time though, so I fear for the future of Apple design.

I really don't care how well they are reviewed. Samsung phones have always looked cheap and tacky to me and I owned the first five galaxies lmao and relatives who own the note from last year and the new s7 edge (who thankfully is ditching android and either going windows or iPhone) and never was impressed.

I dropped android as an os earlier this year as it sucks for me but there are so many Better designed android phones IMO. But one thing Samsung has in common with Apple is OS a massive marketing budget. The commercials and marketing will have you think Samsung is the best android phones around when in reality there are better phones despite them running android that is. But I am glad you like them and wish you well with your galaxy lol
 
Unfortunately too many people have come to believe that putting quotes around a word acts as an intensifier like underlining, bold, or italics. It actually acts as a negation. Putting quotes around immediately indicates that it doesn't really happen immediately.

It "actually" is not a "negation" - quotation marks are however used as a tool to quote and is for a factual, a true or literal usage. Here, I have placed quotation marks around your words to highlight/emphasize my point.

Placing quotation marks around a word or sentence may be used by some incorrectly to portray what actually is a figurative meaning. e.g. A writer/speaker with air quotes, wants to convey that his friend has a lot of Apple products without any verification from say Guiness - "He has literally "the biggest" collection of Macs...". Both the term literally and the quotation marks are used in this example incorrectly - there is no factual confirmation his friend's collection is stated anywhere as the biggest. The correct sentence is, "He has, figuratively speaking, the biggest collection of Macs...".

Quotation marks may be used as a form of emphasis to quote what was particularly/actually/specifically/literally said. For example, to highlight Trump, conveying his uninformed idea of how government works, is a quote from a recent speech, "...I alone can fix it." He "alone" cannot fix it. - Here, I have quoted exactly what he said and highlighted my point that what he thinks is broken cannot be done literally by himself.

Figurative is the metaphorical meaning (opposite of literal). For example, "When I heard Trump say that he "alone can fix it", my head blew up!" My head has not blown up, but I was somewhat shocked, for instance.

By the way, I have used double quotation marks inside double quotation marks, convention may prefer single marks used, i.e. ' .
 
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Removing the headphone port is so stupid. I can't be the only person who prefers wired headsets over bluetooth. Many people don't have bluetooth in their cars. What's the advantage of getting rid of the port?
 
Reasons I have seen mentioned so far have included:
Fewer openings/orifices for water etc
More space for battery etc


i think the "more space for battery" cause has bee debunked because batteries are a fixed sized element and can't be "injected" into a little bit of space created at the bottom of the phone. if apple wanted more battery they could currently do so by leaving the phone at the previous years width and shrinking the interior modules. which they never do.


as far as the water resistant argument - the samsung galaxy s7 is listed as water resistant and it has the ear jack. plus what about all the other ports - the lightning and sim card slots?

the current iphone is highly water resistant. I have read many stories about people dropping them in the toilet and they come out fine. - Apple isn't advertising that for some reason - my guess is they're using us to beta test its water resistance. but its much more water resistant than being advertised. so i don't believe water resistance is a reason to remove it.
 
i think the "more space for battery" cause has bee debunked because batteries are a fixed sized element and can't be "injected" into a little bit of space created at the bottom of the phone. if apple wanted more battery they could currently do so by leaving the phone at the previous years width and shrinking the interior modules. which they never do.


as far as the water resistant argument - the samsung galaxy s7 is listed as water resistant and it has the ear jack. plus what about all the other ports - the lightning and sim card slots?

the current iphone is highly water resistant. I have read many stories about people dropping them in the toilet and they come out fine. - Apple isn't advertising that for some reason - my guess is they're using us to beta test its water resistance. but its much more water resistant than being advertised. so i don't believe water resistance is a reason to remove it.

Who's talking about "injecting" into a little bit of space at the bottom of the phone?

The logic board would be redsigned to accomodate a larger battery using normal standards assuming Apple hasn't figured out how to create a more pliable battery -- and the rMB suggests that's exactly where Apple is headed.

I agree with you on the water resistance, though Samsung has been shown to have poor water resistance by consumer review bodies, so it's far from perfect, and certainly fewer openings the better.

But the battery is something completely different. Removing the headphone jack allows other complements to be moved around freeing up space for a conventional battery tech to be enlarged to take advantage of it. It's not like they're just going to remove the headphone jack and then look for something that fits exactly in the same hole on the logic board.
 
Who's talking about "injecting" into a little bit of space at the bottom of the phone?

The logic board would be redsigned to accomodate a larger battery using normal standards assuming Apple hasn't figured out how to create a more pliable battery -- and the rMB suggests that's exactly where Apple is headed.

I agree with you on the water resistance, though Samsung has been shown to have poor water resistance by consumer review bodies, so it's far from perfect, and certainly fewer openings the better.

But the battery is something completely different. Removing the headphone jack allows other complements to be moved around freeing up space for a conventional battery tech to be enlarged to take advantage of it. It's not like they're just going to remove the headphone jack and then look for something that fits exactly in the same hole on the logic board.


we have no idea if enough space would be freed up by removing it to add more battery capacity. Everything i've read says no - but who knows. the point is, if apple wanted to add more battery they could by not constantly shrinking the phone. i think apple has a target battery life and would rather make the phone thinner than expanding the life. i do not believe battery life is the reason for removing it (assuming they do). we'll find out next month.
 
we have no idea if enough space would be freed up by removing it to add more battery capacity. Everything i've read says no - but who knows. the point is, if apple wanted to add more battery they could by not constantly shrinking the phone. i think apple has a target battery life and would rather make the phone thinner than expanding the life. i do not believe battery life is the reason for removing it (assuming they do). we'll find out next month.

I'd love to see some legitimate sources that suggest that freeing up space would not allow more battery capacity to be added. Common sense suggests any additional space could be added to the battery. Moreover, the next iPhone appears to be roughly the same size, so they aren't shrinking the iPhone this time. As to making it thinner, well, they also make it lighter, which is likely the ultimate goal, not some arbitrary thinness quotient. And of course, every company has manufacturing targets they chose to meet. You seem to suggest that Androids which have horrible battery life, but which on average are thicker than iPhones, somehow justify keeping the iPhone larger than they are. Certainly if any phones would benefit from being larger it would be Androids, yet they tend to follow Apple's lead. Would you suggest that most customers then want thicker phones, but the manufacturers are ignoring them? Or perhaps customers want their phones to be as small as possible while achieving a certain standard?

Regardless, I also do not believe adding more battery capicity is the sole reason Apple is removing the headphone jack either, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility. I was merely pointing out the fallacy of your statement that it was not possible.
 
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