Possible iPhone 7 Lightning to 3.5 mm Adapter Surfaces in New Photos

[xotigu]

That's fun. Let me try mine.
My be an alien is complaining about his headphoneless phone. You say nobody right. You didn't say nobody on earth. You have to be more specific.
Second point, Motorola is no more. Lenovo bought motorola brand and now they call this phone Lenovo Moto Z. Please try researching before you correct someone.

Haha do you even know the words common sense?
If not, ok then I'll have to be more specific, I'll rephrase my sentence
"Besides, Motorola(which is now bought by Lenovo) did it already with their recent flagship phone yet nobody in the whole planet is complaining.lol"


Motorola website and some review sites still call it Motorola
http://www.cnet.com/products/motorola-moto-z/
Maybe you should email them to correct it?

For the meantime, go ahead and use your traditional cable thingy and stop bothering us bluetooth/wireless headphone users

 

[chazbcn]

Regardless of whether this leaked adapter is a genuine Apple product or not, Apple's solution will undoubtedly be sleeker than most other current third-party solutions, but many users remain opposed to the removal of the headphone jack that will cause conflicts for users looking to use wired headphones and charge their devices simultaneously.

That last sentence resumes what the real problem is to me: how in the hell are we going to charge the iPhone while lightning headphones are plugged in?

I welcome the 3.5mm jack removal as a move forward to make the iPhone waterproof and leaving behind old technology, but I cannot figure out how is Apple going to solve that listening/charging simultaneously issue.

We're a few weeks away to find out.
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Regardless of whether this leaked adapter is a genuine Apple product or not, Apple's solution will undoubtedly be sleeker than most other current third-party solutions, but many users remain opposed to the removal of the headphone jack that will cause conflicts for users looking to use wired headphones and charge their devices simultaneously.

That last sentence resumes what the real problem is to me: how in the hell are we going to charge the iPhone while lightning headphones are plugged in?

I welcome the 3.5mm jack removal as a move forward to make the iPhone waterproof and leaving behind old technology, but I cannot figure out how is Apple going to solve that listening/charging simultaneously issue.

We're a few weeks away to find out.

 

[Virinprew]

Haha do you even know the words common sense?
If not, ok then I'll have to be more specific, I'll rephrase my sentence
"Besides, Motorola(which is now bought by Lenovo) did it already with their recent flagship phone yet nobody in the whole planet is complaining.lol"


Motorola website and some review sites still call it Motorola
http://www.cnet.com/products/motorola-moto-z/
Maybe you should email them to correct it?

For the meantime, go ahead and use your traditional cable thingy and stop bothering us bluetooth/wireless headphone users

That's better.
And that's the end of today's "Macrumors' silly keyboard fight" ladies and gentlemen. Let's get back to work.

 

[cjbryce]

iPhone 8 - no ports at all, nothing, nada. Completely sealed waterproof unit

Bluetooth earbuds
Wireless charging
Gasket protection for mic & speaker
Water repellent treatment (Liquipel?)

Well, a boy can dream

 

[Thor774]

And what about us that have to travel 15+ hours on a plane and need to charge the iPhone while using headphones?
A lighting pass thru has to be provided on this kind of adapter for Christ sake! Apple cannot be that dumb, or can they?

 

[femike]

Glad to see the headphone jack go. The year is 2016 and it's time move on.

 

[Three141]

I don't think wireless is ready to replace wired headphones yet. Bluetooth 5 may solve outage and bandwidth problems, but battery life is awful.
Apple were planning to remove it from the anniversary iPhone but i'm guessing they chose to do it now in order to push companies to make better wireless solutions and also to get consumers adapted to wireless.
They aren't going to switch to USB-C, with all the audio lightning products (including adapters) that will be released, switching would be a stupid move for a company that's just annoyed customers by removing the headphone jack.

I've not got the ear of an audio file but to the average listener who I see using Apple's standard hands free or Beats I don't believe they would notice the difference, for now Bluetooth headsets are good enough and the technology will only improve.

The battery life on wireless headsets are improving with some (the latest bose) claiming to have more than 15 hours+ of battery life, which is better than some smartphones.

Apple are always annoying their customers, I remember the cries when the 30 pin was dropped, arguments over optical drive, lack of Blu-ray etc, fact is they change people moan then they just get on with it and argue over the next alleged change.
If they did it would not be a big deal, they will do what they always do, provide an adapter (maybe including the headphone jack).
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This^ I appreciate the 3.5 Jack, but it will be deleted by the iPhone 7 or the 2017 iPhone. It's days are numbered and it makes sense. With the Jack being deleted, it allows for a possible larger battery or wireless charging.

Bluetooth is finally becoming the universal and with Bluetooth 5 on the cusp, it's logical at this point. If Apple does delete the Jack, will they provide an adapter? Will Apple provide the option for the user for a quality set of Bluetooth EarPods in the box? I think everyone knows it will be deleted, but how will Apple address and remedy the alteration? What the costs are is another question.

I'm with you on this, granted I'm biased because I want to see the death of wires and a real industry push for wireless charging and technology.
I believe that until the headphone jack goes, wireless headsets will not improve as fast as they can.

Apple is notoriously stingy, I think they will sell the Lightening to headphone jack adapter separately.
I think the headsets they will include will be cheap wireless ones but it ould be good if they did chuck in some decent beats wireless headphones but this is the company still running with 16gb base models.

When I was working for a phone retailer who made their on headphones, apparently they are cheap to produce, I don't think it will cost Apple much.

I personally would of preferred a big hit with the anniversary iphone.

 

[Three141]

Except if the leaks are correct then Apple is using the space taken by the headphone jack for a second speaker. It's stupid beyond belief.

Wires will never go away because they're fundamentally better than any wireless tech can ever be. Ethernet, or something just like it, will exist forever. Same with speaker cabling. Wires provide a pure signal unhindered by interference or bandwidth issues. They're simply better.

I don't know what percentage of smart phone users have wired headphones, but I imagine it's close to 100%. Apple will alienate literally millions of people with this move. It's possibly the stupidest thing they've ever done.

I agree if they are removing the jack to add another speaker is not needed; they should remove the jack to create more space for a bigger battery life.

As for wires, for the general consumer they can go, yes wires are good but wireless technology is good enough at the moment and will only improve. Not many homes run Ethernet connections and the last company I worked for had everyone on a wireless and it worked fine.

 

[Thunderhawks]

U

But it's short. So maybe it'll be tougher.

Usually not.

Apple cables always break or fray at the entry points into the plugs. The cables themselves are ok.

Since Apple wants everything smooth and clean there are no ridges or indentations for fingers to grab onto.
Thus one occasionally slips off the plug and pulls the cable at that entry point.

I know finger ridges would make dirt or finger oil accumulate, but I can live with that over new cables all the time.

We'll see!

 

[leroypants]

Awesome, I hated being able to charge my phone and listen to music at the same time.

 

[Abazigal]

Apple knows it's dedicated buyers will pay for anything no matter how easy to lose, how overpriced, how inconvenient. They'll jump through hoops on fire and brag about Apple.

Apple's influence and control over users is remarkable...

Which then begs the question - why are Apple customers so dedicated? Could it be because, shocker, they are actually happy and satisfied with their Apple products and remain repeat customers because of the positive experience they have had overall?

But no, it's easier to dismiss them as sheep than try to understand them, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. And they call us sheep. The irony.

 

[8281]

And Toyota sells more cars than BMW while McDonalds sells more hamburgers than Fatburger. And your point is what, exactly?

You made a point of using sales as a way to show that people weren't switching phones. The sales disparity between Apple and Samsung suggests otherwise.

 

[Macist]

"This accessory not supported" every time you plug in your headphones? That sucks. Better carry some switch cleaner and and some tiny brushes with you at all times.

 

[iamasmith]

If they were doing away with the headphone jack then there's only 2 things they can do. Wireless or a physical connection that is as robust as the headphone jack.

There's no way that little flimsy connector is going to stand up to the stresses that a headphone needs to when walking around and to be honest it's been perfectly possible to run audio over this port since it was launched to external DAC units like the Apogee One but nobody would really walk around with that kind of frail connector.

Speculate then about..

1. Huge recess in the body to let the lighting cable go right in..? - did somebody say fluff?

2. External collar assembly to lock the connector from being broken, possibly integrated with a case..?

3. Redesigned cup type end piece for the phone containing the lightning connector and a jack and a 2 part case option to use it with..?

4. Throw away the lighting port as instead and create a resilient port based on the jack format that won't break but does the lightning bit too as well as accepting headphones... hmmm.

Now wouldn't 4 be a shock (if you hadn't read it here first).. iPhone 7 loses the lightning port and keeps a jack (of sorts) and they actually provide an adaptor so you can use lightning accessories

5. Switch the phone to completely wireless charging and data transfer and keep the headphone jack...

 

[EricTheHalfBee]

You made a point of using sales as a way to show that people weren't switching phones. The sales disparity between Apple and Samsung suggests otherwise.

No I didn't. Do you want to stick to what I actually said, or do you need to fabricate stuff you "think" I said in order to make a point?

The sales disparity between Samsung and Apple is due to two basic facts:

- Apple only sells high-end phones. Their cheapest phone is $399 US.
- Samsung sells a mix of phones from high-end devices like the S7 down to low-end junk that starts at only $55 US.

 

[Spreken88]

If I can't charge and listen at the same time this is a no sale. I do this every day. Android here I come.

 

[stopthestupidity]

This is the case with any change in tech though. The way they solve these issues only matters for a year or two and by then people forget and move on with their newer tech that works with the new way of doing things. Kinda like the lightning to 30 pin debacle. It was a bit of an issue at first but as time went on, most people update their devices and now it's a non-issue. Either that or Apple will realize a failure and revert back to using the headphone jack.

This is not at all like the "lightning-to-30-pin debacle". That was apple's own proprietary standard that they changed with another of their own proprietary standard. The 3.5mm jack is a defacto audio industry standard that has been in existence before apple existed.

Dropping this standard is just another 'nail-in-the-coffin' reason for LEGIONS to leave the apple ecosystem once-and-for-all, FOR GOOD, AND WON'T LOOK BACK!

YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO THE USERS THAT COUNT, APPLE? THEN GOOD RiDDANCE!

 

[borntrouble]

Switching to Android if this is going to happen

 

[redcrow240]

If Apple changes the way you charge your phone (i.e via a smart connector similar to the one on the ipad pro) then wouldn't you be free to listen to music thru the lightning port?

If thats the case, then would it not be redundant, with the new bluetooth standard coming out soon, to have 3 (bluetooth, 3.5 jack, lightning port) ways of listening to music/making calls?

Apologies in advance for any grammatical errors. Just wanted to read what you guys/gals thoughts are

 

[rGiskard]

Cheap-looking with minimally reinforced stress relief and non-ergonomic slippery surfaces. The fail rate will be high. Replacements available at local Apple Store for only $39.99!

 

[Sakurambo-kun]

Awesome, I hated being able to charge my phone and listen to music at the same time.

This is also a big deal for in car GPS, as you need to both keep the phone charging and use the headphone jack for audio out to the AUX in port on the car's stereo.

Apple really, really haven't thought this through.

 

[pat500000]

more parts=more money.

Next iphone 7s or 8= no more screen...you have to buy the screen...and it's 399.99.

 

[Tompkinson]

The 3.5mm jack is a defacto audio industry standard that has been in existence before apple existed.

And which is now on its way out, as other brands are also releasing phones without 3,5 mm jack.
Gramophones were standard too, as were VHS tapes, floppy disks and much else.

YOU DON'T WANT TO LISTEN TO THE USERS THAT COUNT, APPLE? THEN GOOD RiDDANCE!

I think the "users that count" are not the few hundred who post on these forums, but rather the millions who will buy the new phone, plug in the adapter and get on with doing other stuff.

 

[Mac 128]

I fear for Apple. iPhone sales are in deep decline- Samsung is eating them alive, the iPhone 6 is the ugliest thing Apple have made for decades, the "iPhone 7" is just an iPhone 6 with less functionality - and one which requires a freaking dongle to work.

This company is badly off track, and Cook seems incapable of fixing it.
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Except if the leaks are correct then Apple is using the space taken by the headphone jack for a second speaker. It's stupid beyond belief.

Wires will never go away because they're fundamentally better than any wireless tech can ever be. Ethernet, or something just like it, will exist forever. Same with speaker cabling. Wires provide a pure signal unhindered by interference or bandwidth issues. They're simply better.

I don't know what percentage of smart phone users have wired headphones, but I imagine it's close to 100%. Apple will alienate literally millions of people with this move. It's possibly the stupidest thing they've ever done.
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Why? Samsung phones are pretty damn good now. Their industrial design is far ahead of the ugly iPhone 6, and they're built extremely well.

That's quite a rant. Do you have any studies or surveys to back up your assertion that nearly 100% of smart phone users have wired headphones? Because this survey would indicate otherwise:

http://www.macnn.com/articles/16/01...o.ask.apple.shoppers.what.they.thought.131986

Not to mention the recent article on this site stating that BT headphone revenue for the first time surpassed wired.

I do agree with you about a second speaker. That would be a waste.

However, I don't agree about wired vs. wireless. It will not always be fundamentally better. And it's not necessarily better now depending on the use case. Mobile phones don't need the kind of bandwidth computers do, so wifi for the average customer works fine. BT 5 may very well match the quality of audio transmission to that of a typical wired headphone. AirPlay already comes pretty close.

This is also a big deal for in car GPS, as you need to both keep the phone charging and use the headphone jack for audio out to the AUX in port on the car's stereo.

Apple really, really haven't thought this through.

Yours follows a series of rants about how it will be impossible to charge the phone at the same time as a Lightning headphone is in use, so you get the brunt of it, because you state the thing outright:

Do you really think, that you and the others on this site are the first to realize there may be a problem that needs to be addressed with charging and listening at the same time?

That Apple with its thousands of engineers and marketing and research people never once thought about his problem?

Seriously?

And you have the audacity to accuse Apple of not thinking this through, but haven't thought of one simple way this could be solved simply and inexpensively?

 

[charlesdayton]

Yay! yet another cable thingy to purchase and keep track of.

Or not.

I'm pretty convinced to switch to Android for my next phone, and I never thought I'd say that.

You will probably be in the same boat: http://www.androidauthority.com/motorola-moto-z-no-3-5-mm-headphone-jack-697713/