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HJM.NL

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As long it comes along free and won't break as easily as their lightning power cords, I've no problem with it :rolleyes:
 

dvanwinkle

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So, I may be entirely wrong about this, so, if you have more knowledge about the subject, please don't attack me.

Shouldn't a Lightning to 3.5mm converter have a DAC built in? My understanding is that Lightning ports only do Digital, and (most? all?) headphones need analog. I doubt that that cable has anywhere near a decent DAC built in, but, I will accept being completely wrong about it if anyone else knows better than I do.
 

smacrumon

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While this adapter is definitely fake, I think a two-piece solution is better than a single-piece one. Headphone cables need to be flexible as close to the insertion point as possible. A single-piece adapter would be at least an inch longer than a two-piece one before the bend point. Otherwise there's too much stress on the lightning plug.
Yes, but Apple is good at miniaturizing things. One piece, ultra tiny, ultra impressive at the unveiling. Anyone can do two pieces and a wire. Apple's power wall bricks have become so small compared to where they started off. I have faith Apple can do it in a single super miniature piece.
 

lolkthxbai

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Simple enough I guess, but I would have thought that it would have been just one piece instead of two pieces separated by wire.
I think I prefer the design shown in the video because it gives the cable slack, if it were just one piece then it might easily break.
 

can$rules

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A dongle is a small piece of hardware that connects to another device to provide it with additional functionality.
In this instance you are not adding functionality but merely adapting the port. An adapter is the correct usage.

No it isn't. It has a DAC ==> dongle. A 3.5mm to 2.5mm cable is an adapter.
 
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manu chao

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As long it comes along free and won't break as easily as their lightning power cords, I've no problem with it :rolleyes:
I don't know what you do with your phone while charging. Mine sits on surface. However, any headphone cable is under frequent stress as you move about while having it plugged in, constantly creating opportunities for the cable to get caught on something and violently yanking at the cable.
 

smacrumon

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While this adapter is definitely fake, I think a two-piece solution is better than a single-piece one. Headphone cables need to be flexible as close to the insertion point as possible. A single-piece adapter would be at least an inch longer than a two-piece one before the bend point. Otherwise there's too much stress on the lightning plug.
Actually... There's no reason why it should be two piece at all. The lightning part and the 3.5mm part can exist parralel to each other in one piece, i.e. wider not longer, therefore not needing to stick out further.
 

theLedger

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I don't care if Apple makes the switch to Lightning for audio as long as they can make a good case for it as they usually do when doing things like this. One such case is the ability for a thinner form factor. The other case for it is that it can allow for bidirectional data, not just audio. With Apple owning Beats, can you imagine that to advance the science of headphones, it's not practical to build all kinds of processor capability into a headphone. Now with Lightning and data, the listening device can provide more information passively that the iPhone can actively use to provide a better aural experience or better noise reduction.

The only thing I want out of it is the ability to listen and charge at the same time without having to buy another adapter.
 

doelcm82

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So will this be included in the box with the handset, or available separately for a mere $49.99?
The outrageous imaginary price keeps going up. As people get used to the idea, it takes a higher imaginary price to stoke the outrage.

The article suggests it will be included in the box. It's possible that the adapter will cost $112.32. Not likely, but possible.
 

HiFiGuy528

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this adapter looks to be the real deal. You can tell by the design & appears to have good build quality. I want one!
 

smacrumon

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I think I prefer the design shown in the video because it gives the cable slack, if it were just one piece then it might easily break.
Yes, but what if the two sections were parallel to each other, they wouldn't be longer than the current lightning part.
 

yesjam

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Many people are commenting on using headphones while charging. I don't know how Apple would achieve it, but it would be actually insane to me if they don't integrate some way of using headphones and charging at the same time. I cannot imagine Apple totally neglecting to adapt the phone to support both charging and headphone use. If they do, however, it is a sure sign that (as much as I hate to say it) Apple is not what it used to be.
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If Apple stops offering an iPhone with headphone jack, I will seriously consider switching to Android.
Same with me. I'd get a Nexus without hesitation.
 

JackANSI

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adapter
əˈdaptə/
noun
a device for connecting pieces of equipment that cannot be connected directly.
"the adapter converts the lightning port to a 3.5 mm headphone jack"



A dongle is a small piece of hardware that connects to another device to provide it with additional functionality.

In this instance you are not adding functionality but merely adapting the port. An adapter is the correct usage.

Actually you are adding functionality I believe...

There is no analog audio on the Lightning port if memory serves.

So you're not adapting anything, you're adding analog audio functionality over a 3.5mm jack to the iPhone.

So dongle is correct by your own definition and adapter is not.

Before long Apple will be pressed to break out income data from dongle sales at this rate! ;)
 
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