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Post your snow leopard flaws (The Snow Leopard bug report)
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No -- it's a problem with Snow Leopard. My first install was a disaster, with nearly every standard app (Mail, Safari, iTunes, Logic, Quicktime, etc.) repeatedly crashing for no apparent reason.
I called Apple tech support and they told me to reinstall, and if that didn't work to return the installation DVD and get another one because the DVD might be damaged. The second installation had the same problem. So I got a brand new SL DVD and reinstalled, booting off the DVD. And Mail now seems to be stable, but the other apps still have the same freaking problems!
I have a brand new MacPro with stock Apple memory. So it better not be anything with my hardware. The tech support guy said maybe Apple never tested SL on a machine like mine.
Wow... guess I was lucky for once. I'm seeing none of this stuff (and I considered 10.5.0 to 10.5.8 buggy, so I'm picky enough). And I used the crappy method and upgraded rather than performed a clean install. Probably the first time in 20 years I used the upgrade alternative, and it looks like I hit the jackpot by being lazy.
- Worked on first install attempt with no hiccups
- Worked on first boot with no glitches
- Nothing has crashed. Not Safari, not Finder... nothing
- A few voodoo-ish issues I had with Leopard have been fixed
- Improved(!) battery life (I never got 5 hrs with the 9600M before) and greatly improved battery time indicator that's no longer jumping around wildly
- No gfx glitches
- Slightly smoother animations on some effects... Stacks used to be really choppy when I used grid view on folders with large numbers of files, but now they fan out smoothly
- SMB NAS drives are always visible in Finder now even with the firewall on (in Leopard you had to switch it off completely)
- No heat problems, no high fan RPM bursts, no freezes or any other hardware voodoo crap
- No files have been messed up... apps, custom fonts and everything else is where it should be
LCC doesn't work but that's the only issue. But hey, it's Logitech, they have a PhD in crappy Mac drivers.
- Worked on first install attempt with no hiccups
- Worked on first boot with no glitches
- Nothing has crashed. Not Safari, not Finder... nothing
- A few voodoo-ish issues I had with Leopard have been fixed
- Improved(!) battery life (I never got 5 hrs with the 9600M before) and greatly improved battery time indicator that's no longer jumping around wildly
- No gfx glitches
- Slightly smoother animations on some effects... Stacks used to be really choppy when I used grid view on folders with large numbers of files, but now they fan out smoothly
- SMB NAS drives are always visible in Finder now even with the firewall on (in Leopard you had to switch it off completely)
- No heat problems, no high fan RPM bursts, no freezes or any other hardware voodoo crap
- No files have been messed up... apps, custom fonts and everything else is where it should be
LCC doesn't work but that's the only issue. But hey, it's Logitech, they have a PhD in crappy Mac drivers.
I have a brand new MacPro with stock Apple memory. So it better not be anything with my hardware. The tech support guy said maybe Apple never tested SL on a machine like mine.
Big UH OH! I share the same grief with one of the original Mac Pro's. After reading two other mac forums, Snow Leopard feels like it was rushed out the door, and not tested the whole way.
The only bugs I've noted have been comparatively minor or non-OS-related (3rd-party applications). Nothing serious yet, at all.
The last one may just be an annoyance of design choice, as opposed to a bug, so I'll explain. The new text replacements (such as (c) into ©, (r) into ®, and so on), including the smart quotes and dashes, only get used when 'forced' on in many places - for example, in Safari forms, they aren't used by default, nor are your settings 'saved' across forms/sessions. If I wanted to use them for fancy quotes and convenience, I'd have to manually enable it every time I wanted to use it, and in some applications not all of the selected replacements apply properly either.
...So I've just disabled the text replacement all together now - I'll stick to mostly-ASCII text entry instead of having prettier quotes and convenient symbols.
- Rough animations in Exposé. Includes when slowed down by holding Shift.
- Flash Player is terrible (uses more CPU than Leopard, less smooth).
- New text replacement feature is used inconsistently.
The last one may just be an annoyance of design choice, as opposed to a bug, so I'll explain. The new text replacements (such as (c) into ©, (r) into ®, and so on), including the smart quotes and dashes, only get used when 'forced' on in many places - for example, in Safari forms, they aren't used by default, nor are your settings 'saved' across forms/sessions. If I wanted to use them for fancy quotes and convenience, I'd have to manually enable it every time I wanted to use it, and in some applications not all of the selected replacements apply properly either.
...So I've just disabled the text replacement all together now - I'll stick to mostly-ASCII text entry instead of having prettier quotes and convenient symbols.
Found my first 'bug' yesterday, not sure if it's just me or if other people are experiencing it too. If I connect my iPhone, change a setting and hit "Apply/Sync", any time my iPhone syncs after that - until I disconnect/reconnect - if I 'slide to cancel' iTunes will immediately crash.
I consider myself schooled. ~/Library/Fonts is where it lives now. I learned my ways and used Font Book to install it for me this time.
Thanks for pointing that out dude.
And better still - seemingly logging out and going to sleep for 7 hours was enough to fix the Flickr Uploadr. How very strange.
Another one I've encountered...
Boot into 64-bit and try and install VMWare Fusion. I tried this (it was Fusion 1.x, not sure if it does the same with 2.x though) and got this message:
"Sorry, VMWare Fusion can only be installed on Macs with Intel processors."
Actually found it rather funny considering I clearly have an Intel processor if I have Snow Leopard (but of course, the logic is in the fact that this version of Fusion is from well before SL was even announced). Of course, booting into 32-bit allowed me to install with no problems.
Boot into 64-bit and try and install VMWare Fusion. I tried this (it was Fusion 1.x, not sure if it does the same with 2.x though) and got this message:
"Sorry, VMWare Fusion can only be installed on Macs with Intel processors."
Actually found it rather funny considering I clearly have an Intel processor if I have Snow Leopard (but of course, the logic is in the fact that this version of Fusion is from well before SL was even announced
). Of course, booting into 32-bit allowed me to install with no problems.
Another one I've encountered...
Boot into 64-bit and try and install VMWare Fusion. I tried this (it was Fusion 1.x, not sure if it does the same with 2.x though) and got this message:
"Sorry, VMWare Fusion can only be installed on Macs with Intel processors."
Actually found it rather funny considering I clearly have an Intel processor if I have Snow Leopard (but of course, the logic is in the fact that this version of Fusion is from well before SL was even announced
Please. At least post a problem report about the latest version of software generally available. I could spend days posting problems using old versions of software.
The latest version of VMWare works just fine with 10.6.
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Also having the same problem with my Mac Pro (2006). I can force it to sleep by selecting 'Sleep' from the
menu, however it will not go to sleep by itself. I have tried this on both a 10.6 upgrade and clean install and both have the same problem.
Other issues I have run into are:
- On occasion I have no menu bar after booting up.
- Some of my drives go to sleep even thougth I have disabled the option in energy saver.
- A few crashes with Safari and iTunes.
- Occasionally get permission errors when syncing my iPhone.
The above issues have been experienced after performing a clean install. I originally did an upgrade but the machine was unbearably slow after the installation.
Lighten up Mac Rumors!
Like I said, it worked flawlessly when I was in 32-bit anyway (and runs perfectly fine in 64-bit also) - it was just obviously a flaw with the package installer and being in 64-bit... But in the end I only really posted it as a joke because I found the error message funny
I had a screenshot and all, and then just as I was about to upload it I realised I had a Finder window open over the top But yeah, as I said, was meant to be a joke 
Yes and no. As he told later on it worked fine when booting with the 32 bit kernel. Which is not strange since VMware Fusion is 32 bit from the very first beta up until the latest stable release (2.0.5 as of this writing) and installs some 32 bit kernel stuff. Booting with a 64 bit kernel will break every version of Fusion out there. There is a private beta which is partially 64 bit but it has the same limitation as the stable releases: it needs the 32 bit kernel because it installs 32 bit kernel stuff so therefore it will not work with the 64 bit kernel.
In other words: VMware Fusion will work fine with 10.6 but ONLY when booting the 32 bit kernel. Fusion is not compatible with the 64 bit kernel and won't work/install.
The proper advise would be to do some homework regarding the applications and other pieces of software (drivers, kernel extensions, prefpanes, etc.) if they will work with 10.6 before posting it will or won't. In this case this information is in the release notes of version 2.0.5: "Provides experimental support for Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard as a host operating system (32-bit only)". On the team Fusion blog there is an interesting piece of information: VMware Fusion 2 and Mac OS X Snow Leopard: Even Better.
Just had a weird one. Computer started up and gave me a message like "Your computer's clock is set to a date before Jan 1 2001. This may cause some programs to behave strangely." Sure enough the clock was set as Dec 31 2000. I was disconnected from my Wi-Fi and my background was the default one. I changed the date manually, only then would keychain autofill the Wi-Fi password and then went to change the background, but the settings said it was using my custom background and showed the proper thumbnail. I changed it then changed it back and it is fine now. Weird... Please don't have that happen everytime I turn it off from now on.
Windows shown below the line are minimised windows from the Dock. Those above are not. This is actually mentioned on Apple's website here. Search for the text "Activate Exposé from the Dock".
The only problem i've had is that Dreamweaver MX 2004 wont start - yes its really old and its not surprising.
So i'm using the windows version with CrossOver 8.
No other problems at all, photoshop CS1 seems better than it was on leopard, there was a small bug when opening a file that caused the app to freeze until you clicked on the finder or another window - this doesn't happen anymore.
The best new feature is that the Finder now remembers each folders view settings.
And the only annoying thing is the way the screen goes dark if you hold the mouse down on a running app's dock icon to get the quit option - seems pointless.
So i'm using the windows version with CrossOver 8.
No other problems at all, photoshop CS1 seems better than it was on leopard, there was a small bug when opening a file that caused the app to freeze until you clicked on the finder or another window - this doesn't happen anymore.
The best new feature is that the Finder now remembers each folders view settings.
And the only annoying thing is the way the screen goes dark if you hold the mouse down on a running app's dock icon to get the quit option - seems pointless.
Just right click to get that option. Holding down the icon enters Expose to show all windows of that app only that are open.
the fan on my macbook is on steroids nowadays. even watching a simple youtube video in safari will make my macbook sound like a jet plane about to take off. its starting to piss me off actually
oh and clicking a site from the 'Top Sites' page makes the window go funny before the site loads...hmm i can live with that though
oh and clicking a site from the 'Top Sites' page makes the window go funny before the site loads...hmm i can live with that though
iCal date in dock sticks
My iCal date in the dock only indicates the correct date if my Mac Pro has been booted up on the current day. Otherwise the date sticks to the last day the machine was booted -- and since I don't reboot very often that could be annoying as I often look to the dock for the current date.
My iCal date in the dock only indicates the correct date if my Mac Pro has been booted up on the current day. Otherwise the date sticks to the last day the machine was booted -- and since I don't reboot very often that could be annoying as I often look to the dock for the current date.
Snow Leopard problems here
Hi all, I have been addicted to this site for months...since converting to mac...and it has been very useful..thanks!! You have all taught me how to use and fix a mac.
Right now I wish I had waited to upgrade to SL. I did the fanboy thing and pre-ordered...then I installed it on my MBP to make sure it was ok. It seemed ok...so I installed it on my iMac as well. Here are some of the issues I am having:
1. all programs seem to crash (according to a AppleCare specialist Apple knows about these issues and they sent me a log capture program to run for them).
2. the crashs are predictable and regular in Safari, iTunes, Pages, Keynote, and (believe or not) in Mail and Textedit. The crashes seem to correlate with the interaction with the file selection menus. For example, in Safari, if I am trying to post a pdf to a web site, when I pick the file to mount (a small one), safari will just die and up pops an error message with hundreds of lines of gobble-dee-gook. Included on this error dialogue is a button to relaunch the offending application.
I experienced one such crash in Mail as I was attempting to send Apple engineers a log file as an attachment (again, interacting with a file selection window).
3. Under Leopard, my HP 2840 Color LaserJet all-in-one worked perfectly. The HP Director software worked fine and I could scan to my iMac...there was clear two-way communication. Now, all I can do is print...no other functionality works.
If anyone has any advice, I appreciate hearing it. Thanks/
Hi all, I have been addicted to this site for months...since converting to mac...and it has been very useful..thanks!! You have all taught me how to use and fix a mac.
Right now I wish I had waited to upgrade to SL. I did the fanboy thing and pre-ordered...then I installed it on my MBP to make sure it was ok. It seemed ok...so I installed it on my iMac as well. Here are some of the issues I am having:
1. all programs seem to crash (according to a AppleCare specialist Apple knows about these issues and they sent me a log capture program to run for them).
2. the crashs are predictable and regular in Safari, iTunes, Pages, Keynote, and (believe or not) in Mail and Textedit. The crashes seem to correlate with the interaction with the file selection menus. For example, in Safari, if I am trying to post a pdf to a web site, when I pick the file to mount (a small one), safari will just die and up pops an error message with hundreds of lines of gobble-dee-gook. Included on this error dialogue is a button to relaunch the offending application.
I experienced one such crash in Mail as I was attempting to send Apple engineers a log file as an attachment (again, interacting with a file selection window).
3. Under Leopard, my HP 2840 Color LaserJet all-in-one worked perfectly. The HP Director software worked fine and I could scan to my iMac...there was clear two-way communication. Now, all I can do is print...no other functionality works.
If anyone has any advice, I appreciate hearing it. Thanks/