~Shard~ said:
What is the advantage of Single Dual Cores over current Dual processors? Wouldn't i make sense to make them all dual dual cores, especially if this is the last update
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Powerbook and PowerMac Updates - October 19th?
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What is the advantage of Single Dual Cores over current Dual processors? Wouldn't i make sense to make them all dual dual cores, especially if this is the last update
Epicurus
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mashinhead said:
Apple has habit of keeping new products at or near the price points of the products they are replacing. Dual-core processors are really expensive right now, so making dual dual-core standard would raise the base price dramatically. It's hard to predict how they'll structure a dual-core lineup considering all the different arrangements they had with the dual processor G5 lineups over the years. Possibly they'll have two single chip dual-core options and two dual dual-core options for balance. I think the single core models are gone after this upgrade.
mongoos150
macrumors 6502a
Perhaps the one bad thing about switching to DDR2 ram is that Apple will now be forced to ship with two ram chips - thus charging for more Apple ram...ack!!!Peace said:
Hallo All
On 16th of October a discount selling for university students shlould start in Switzerland. This discount opportunity to buy laptops happens twice a year here. Students are allowed to buy ibooks and powerbooks during the selling time of 3,5 weeks with 22-25% discount on the regular price.
Normally there are some bundles offered, wich you can see under this link:
http://www.neptun.ethz.ch/hardware/modelsApple/
The university group works really close with Aplle Switzerland to guarantee that the newest models are being sold. This autumn, as wrote allready, the whole selling should allready start. But somehow we are still not allowed to buy hardware with this explanation:
https://store.ethz.ch/
So there might be some chances that on 19th of October something will happen with poor powerbooks. Sorry for my ***** english.
Greetings from Switzerland.
On 16th of October a discount selling for university students shlould start in Switzerland. This discount opportunity to buy laptops happens twice a year here. Students are allowed to buy ibooks and powerbooks during the selling time of 3,5 weeks with 22-25% discount on the regular price.
Normally there are some bundles offered, wich you can see under this link:
http://www.neptun.ethz.ch/hardware/modelsApple/
The university group works really close with Aplle Switzerland to guarantee that the newest models are being sold. This autumn, as wrote allready, the whole selling should allready start. But somehow we are still not allowed to buy hardware with this explanation:
https://store.ethz.ch/
So there might be some chances that on 19th of October something will happen with poor powerbooks. Sorry for my ***** english.
Greetings from Switzerland.
physics_gopher said:
so what is the advantage of a single dual core over a dual single core machine
Hmmmmm
I still reckon that if Apple are moving the PM's to the Dual Core G5's then they will use one dual core CPU in all but the highest end system. This would surley save them money on the system build (having to use only one chip, not two - so more computers per chip, per wafer. Surley equals less money, even if the Dual Cores are more complicated chips. I mean how many G5's dont make the grade, having to get TWO Grade A's per system must cost apple quite a bit...).
I don't think the cases will be different, i think they will be the same - If they go DDR2 im going to go out on a limb and say they will support a max of 16GB RAM - and of course it seems PCIe is likley. Maybe dual for the top end? Certainly two cards in SLI is a great performance benifit - more so for professionals? Oh and maybe, finally, a QUADRO or FIREGL card on the MAC.
What else? Well maybe they will integrate wireless and bluetooth to save the trouble of buying it BTO or not (its just there if you need it or not). Include the Mighty Mouse with the new G5's of course, since the iMac comes with it now.
I think its possible that Apple could while keeping the case the same, alter the colour. Glossy White or a cool glossy black..
Or...
Since the eMac has vanished, maybe, just maybe Apple will create a new product alltogether. Something along the lines of a headless system between the price of the PowerMac and the price of the iMac? Smaller and less expandable but powerful, and quiet (like the mini).
Eitherway im glad Apple are making a good showing of PPC products. It was getting a bit dodgy there for a moment - them updating the PPC line puts more faith in users (well it does me) that they are very serious about their Universal support and still see PPC as a good product.
I still reckon that if Apple are moving the PM's to the Dual Core G5's then they will use one dual core CPU in all but the highest end system. This would surley save them money on the system build (having to use only one chip, not two - so more computers per chip, per wafer. Surley equals less money, even if the Dual Cores are more complicated chips. I mean how many G5's dont make the grade, having to get TWO Grade A's per system must cost apple quite a bit...).
I don't think the cases will be different, i think they will be the same - If they go DDR2 im going to go out on a limb and say they will support a max of 16GB RAM - and of course it seems PCIe is likley. Maybe dual for the top end? Certainly two cards in SLI is a great performance benifit - more so for professionals? Oh and maybe, finally, a QUADRO or FIREGL card on the MAC.
What else? Well maybe they will integrate wireless and bluetooth to save the trouble of buying it BTO or not (its just there if you need it or not). Include the Mighty Mouse with the new G5's of course, since the iMac comes with it now.
I think its possible that Apple could while keeping the case the same, alter the colour. Glossy White or a cool glossy black..
Or...
Since the eMac has vanished, maybe, just maybe Apple will create a new product alltogether. Something along the lines of a headless system between the price of the PowerMac and the price of the iMac? Smaller and less expandable but powerful, and quiet (like the mini).
Eitherway im glad Apple are making a good showing of PPC products. It was getting a bit dodgy there for a moment - them updating the PPC line puts more faith in users (well it does me) that they are very serious about their Universal support and still see PPC as a good product.
ZorPrime
macrumors regular
aswitcher said:
I think Apples Cinema displays will most likely support HDMI when it starts shipping machines with Blu-Ray or HD-DVD drives. As to when that happens, I too have a feeling it won't be for a while. 🙁
Unfortunately it looks like, if one wants to view their HD-DVDs or Blu-Ray discs in High Definition, HDCP compliancy will be required. Im hoping that Apple doesnt go the extreme route like Microsoft but it looks like Apple will be forced to. Since Intel owns the licensing rights to HDCP and Apple is switching to Intel... If Apple sticks with Blu-Ray then Apple might have some wriggling room with respect to HDCP, since HDMI and Blu-Ray arent license owned by Intel or Microsoft.
Indeed, these are interesting times
PowerBook G5
I was just thinking back in july when IBM was speaking of low power g5's running at 1.2, 1.4, and 1.6 GHz or something like thhat I think. But anyway I wonder if they have a real surprise in store for us for the PowerBooks.
I was just thinking back in july when IBM was speaking of low power g5's running at 1.2, 1.4, and 1.6 GHz or something like thhat I think. But anyway I wonder if they have a real surprise in store for us for the PowerBooks.
~Shard~
macrumors P6
physics_gopher said:
Good thinking, I could see this happening. Let Apple's partner in crime Sony pave the weay with the PS3, then when it's time to punmp out some Intel Macs, there you go! Could happen.... 😎
dsswarehouse said:
You mean the 970GX? Doubtful - Apple is probably redesigning the PowerBooks for Intel, and the easiest proc upgrade they could do right now would be to a 7448. Also keep in mind the PowerBook will go Intel within a year, so having a G5 PB on the market for that short amount of time doesn't make sense for Apple on a couple fronts.
Not saying it wouldn't be nice to see, but I am pretty confident it won't happen. Prove me wrong Apple! 😎
MRU
macrumors Penryn
Mmm Store is revealing...
Noticed that All Powermacs are now showing as shipping in 5 days.
So all powermacs are going to be updated 🙂
However Powerbooks - 4 days for the 15 & 17 models. So likely that we will see HD version of these, BUT 12" is still shipping in 24 hours...
🙄
Which means come Wednesday we will either lose the 12" completely or it wont recieve any update at all 😡 Either way is bad
Also from performance tests I've read on intel dual core processors, the benefit of the 2 cores on 1 processor is not as good as 2 full seperate processors, so if apple replace the two lower end powermac models with a single dual core processor, the benefits are going to negligable if not worse 🙁 However if we do get 2 dual core processors we can look forward to a really good speed boost, and I may have to finally upgrade my Jan 2004 Dual 1.8 G5 Powermac......
Noticed that All Powermacs are now showing as shipping in 5 days.
So all powermacs are going to be updated 🙂
However Powerbooks - 4 days for the 15 & 17 models. So likely that we will see HD version of these, BUT 12" is still shipping in 24 hours...
🙄
Which means come Wednesday we will either lose the 12" completely or it wont recieve any update at all 😡 Either way is bad
Also from performance tests I've read on intel dual core processors, the benefit of the 2 cores on 1 processor is not as good as 2 full seperate processors, so if apple replace the two lower end powermac models with a single dual core processor, the benefits are going to negligable if not worse 🙁 However if we do get 2 dual core processors we can look forward to a really good speed boost, and I may have to finally upgrade my Jan 2004 Dual 1.8 G5 Powermac......
Plymouthbreezer
macrumors 601
They said the updates will be to the Pro line. This proposed system wouldn't be considered a Pro setup.
19" laptop?????Peace said:
Are you serious? 17" is almost too big now to be practical.
Yes, that's why I thought the <sarcasm> tags were unnecessary. 🙄Mr Maui said:
I've been watching delivery times for weeks, debating if I could accept an End-Of-Life model.
MacRumorUser said:
not neccesarily. Intels implementation of dual core isn't the same as IBM's. Intel cheated on their initial dual core implementation. i think even the dual core AMD outperformed Intels. so the dual core G5 may be much more on par with the dual processor machines...
RoxStrongo
macrumors regular
aswitcher said:
hdmi was never meant to be computer interface though. it was developed for consumer technology. im surprised that dvi is appearing on so many tvs these days. hdmi is certainly the superior interface but is it necessary on a computer?
bodeh6
macrumors 6502a
Plymouthbreezer said:
I believe that Dell is actually working on a 19" laptop to be released next year.
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000463042992/
mongoos150
macrumors 6502a
That's rediculous. In the other thread one guy is trying to put out the idea of a 20" PB - and it actually selling. 🙄bodeh6 said:
Epicurus
macrumors 6502
RoxStrongo said:
Is it necessary? Probably not. But Apple can start integrating it nonetheless, claiming that it "offers the consumer the top of the line innovation, yada yada yada". All the while Apple will be positioning itself as an even stronger player in the living room market by giving all of its computers the ability to plug into the latest TVs. Imagine a Mac mini with dual HDMI outputs, a 500GB hard drive, and a real bluetooth, Apple designed remote control.... Can you see it? 😀
MacRumorUser said:
If they introduced a 13" widescreen Powerbook, I would feel compelled to sell the 12" that I've had for about 8 months. I'm not sure that would be wise, but I'd likely do it because I have a weakness for such things (as do many people reading this, I'm sure)