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Powerbook G4's in Paris?

Laptop sized DVDR drives arn't so far away, check out this http://news.com.com/2100-1040-947250.html (link from kuzelnik).
All I want is a 1Ghz TiBook, I'd probably spec the DVDR drive down to a regular combo, I just couldn't justify the extra cost for something I'd rarely use, and besides, I allready have one in my DP1Ghz 😀
 
all this powerbook talk is just wishful thinking

you guys are in for a real downer if you really think apple will update the powerbooks in Paris

and when you dont get your update don't start posting that apple has cheated you again of something that they promised to you, just becuase some site thinks there's going to be an update doesnt mean anything.

you'll see iCal in action and maybe just maybe either price reductions of their LCD line or some brand new LCDs.
 
TyleRomeo - May not be as the article said in Paris, but there are new PB on the way. My best guess for time is around the 25th when the educational double discount ends. It's simply a matter of product cycles, the PB is old and in need of a boost to keep pace with the computing field.

Pants - check out the SonyEricsson Z700. As small as the T68 but with WAP AND HTML browser (unfortunately provided by microsoft), e-mail client (POP3, SMTP), very advanced games, color, bluetooth and that cool little Sony menu wheel you like so much.
 
About the Radeon 7500 Mobility:

Laptop makers are free to set it's clock speed however they like, up to 270mhz, and Apple is currently running the PB Radeon at 230mhz, I believe. This conserves power and reduces heat output. Apple could boost performance simply by bumping the video card clock and adding video RAM.

The only laptop video chip that may be better than a Radeon 7500 Mobility if the GeForce4go 440. The "workstation" laptop chips are identical to the consumer versions except for *tiny* features and different drivers.

ANYWAY, I am very curious if Apple has fixed the paint problems yet. No way in heck I'll buy a $3k computer that looks terrible after 6 months.
 
Originally posted by MacArtist


As far as mobile graphics go the Radeon 7500 is the best unless you go into a workstation solution (ie Mobilty Fire GL 7800 or Quadro 500 Go GL), but a 64MB Mobility Radeon 7500 would be nice.

As far as firewire goes, it won't get faster until Apple adopts the Firewire 2 spec. A second port would be nice but you could get a firewire hub for home because when you are on the go I'm sure you won't be carrying the HD and Burner with you.

Longer battery life would be nice but ~5 hours is still good. You can get a third party battery for the TiBook with longer life.

Built in bluetooth would be a logical approach for Apple, it'll be an advantage that Apple could exploit.

As far as less heat goes, there really isn't much Apple can do considering the size of the Tibook and the speed of the processor.
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3rd party battery for PowerBook?! Where? Tell me!
As for firewire.. according to xlr8yourmac.com,FW port on Titanium has 20 mb/s throughput while powermac has circa 30 mb/s. So,it could be better.
 
re. potential powerbook updates and a question re. laptop firewire

I think an upgrade to at least a gig would be great. b/c of heat, i don't think 1.25 is going to happen; nor will any significant improvements in the drives. maybe they'll do something with the memory a la the new disco powermacs, then again, maybe not... why hold your breath?

at this point, my greatest fear is that you could buy one of these things for $3k plus and get hosed in 1st half 2003 with a completely redesigned machine featuring a new cpu, new monitor, firewire 2, and all the other types of upgrade that feel like they're right around the corner. and probably at around the same outrageous $3k price point. to be followed, of course, by an upgrading of the ibook to 800m g4 for around $1900.

i can see this happening, although none of it is based on any more than a gut feeling. regardless of all the apple jingoism on this board (believe me, i'm on the team - had all apples since the apple II+, "so there!"), i think most of the folks reading this sense the same thing.

QUESTION: is it really true that the firewire is so much slower on powerbooks? how is it in comparison to blue and white g3 450MHz powermacs (my current machine)? i need to know b/c i'm running a motu firewire audio interface and i also sometimes watch movies through the mac on the formac studio firewire box. your experienced replies appreciated. regards,

vic
 
powerbook g4 out of stock at Amazon

Amazon is out of 667 and 800 powerbook. OK no big deal there except for the message on the 667 link says out of stock/discontinue to be replaced with 800. Is this a hint?
 
Re: re. potential powerbook updates and a question re. laptop firewire

Originally posted by vixapphire

QUESTION: is it really true that the firewire is so much slower on powerbooks? how is it in comparison to blue and white g3 450MHz powermacs (my current machine)? i need to know b/c i'm running a motu firewire audio interface and i also sometimes watch movies through the mac on the formac studio firewire box. your experienced replies appreciated. regards,

vic
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I'd be better if you start a new topic on this in the help/questions forum so that we can keep this thread on track, thanks! 🙂
 
amazon....

This is copied from the Amazon page. I don't see anywhere that it will be replaced by the 800 but it does clearly say "not stocked or discontinued". Take what you will........


Customer Rating:

Apple PowerBook Notebook (667-MHz PowerPC G4, 512 MB RAM, 30 GB hard drive) Compare this
This item is not stocked or has been discontinued. Customers also shopped for these similar items.




667 MHz PowerPC G4, 512 MB SDRAM, 30 GB Ultra ATA Hard Disk, 6x DVD-ROM, and Mac OS X, Mac OS 9 and below, QuickTime, iMovie 2, iTunes(6), Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Outlook Express, ...
 
nevermind

after further searching this turned up....


10. Apple PowerBook Notebook (667-MHz PowerPC G4, 512 MB RAM, 30 GB hard drive)
Avg. Customer Rating:

Mac OS X and Mac OS 9 and below, 667 MHz PowerPC G4, 512 MB SDRAM, 30 GB Ultra ATA Hard Disk, 24x (read), 8x (write) CD-RW, 6x; included via combo drive DVD-ROM, QuickTime, iMovie 2, iTunes(6), Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Outlook Express, ...
This item is not stocked or has been discontinued. The replacement for this item is Apple Powerbook Notebook (800-MHz PowerPC G4, 512 MB RAM, 40 GB hard drive).
 
T68

Regarding the SonyEricsson T68(i):

I had my original T68 upgraded to the T68i for free. The only difference between the two models is the software. And the casing. And the color of keyboard LEDs.

So, if you have a non-i version of the T68, have it upgraded at a local Sony Ericsson authorized repair center.
 
Re: T68

Originally posted by aggemam
Regarding the SonyEricsson T68(i):

I had my original T68 upgraded to the T68i for free. The only difference between the two models is the software. And the casing. And the color of keyboard LEDs.

So, if you have a non-i version of the T68, have it upgraded at a local Sony Ericsson authorized repair center.
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For real? I have a T68 and would love to get it updated, you say I can take it to any authorised center and it's FREE?
 
Summing it up:

This is what we would want to see(within reasnoable limits)
1ghz TiBook with a Radeon mobolity 7500 with 64mb DDR RAM or still a 32mb card. 256mb DDR RAM with a 133mhz system bus. These would be great specs for Paris and they seem possible, maybe bluetooth built in too. Or a few new ports(Firewire 2nd not likely)
Oh and maybe a larger Hard Drive(I don't the know the largest they can fit)

Cross your fingers!@!
 
Re: Re: T68

Originally posted by verbose101

For real? I have a T68 and would love to get it updated, you say I can take it to any authorised center and it's FREE?
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Yeah. I had it done to my phone in like 20 minutes. When the T68 was announced, Ericsson promised MMS support. And that is included in the T68i software.

It's a lot different from the original version, but beware: There's no tetris in the new software! 🙂
 
Ok, I think I'm officially going nuts.

I think I must have the patience of Job himself. Waiting on a new PB is truly an excruciatingly delicious, maddening experience.

I'm a grad student in need of some serious mobile hardware and try as I might I can't deny my lust for the Tibook any longer. But I waited until the 800mhz upgrade...waited for all the accolades. Then I've finally decided to pull the trigger--literally this week. Now I hear all this news about October. What's another month, right?

Does anyone remember a time when Apple ran a discount promotion followed by an upgrade? It makes a whole world of sense that they would run a price promotion (for a limited time) to clear out their inventory.

I thought I came to the decision that an 800mhz TiBook would PROBABLY be better than the latest and greatest. New adopters always get the shaft. If its January, I would be prepared to get the current TiBook. Four months is long enough. October is a whole different beast, though.

Decisions, decisions.
 
the T68 upgrade is only available in Europe. I have a friend with the T68m on voicestream and one with T68i on AT&T. My friend tried to get the upgrade and it can't be done here in the U.S.

As far as PB are concerned. I am in the same boat as iTurd. I return to school in Ireland on October 2 so if the new PB come out on the 26th i don't think i'll get it in time and that means lots more money shipping it out to europe and not having it for the start of university. But there is no way I'm not going to wait and see so i'm basically screwed.

Damn you apple!!!
 
For Those Looking for Battery

I too am looking for extended power supply for my iBook/500.
3 hours just will not cut it in the field.

Saw this www.electrovaya.com in Mac Warehouse. $499 for "up to 16 hours of runtime."
$499?!? That's a third of what I payed for my iBook.
And if their runtime claim is anything like Apple's, you're really looking at about 10 hours of real world runtime (which would still work for my needs).

But $499?? Ouchie wa wa.


lazyrighteye
 
and another thing...

Here's what to REASONABLY expect for Oct./Jan./whenever:

1GB processor
167 mhz system bus, L3 cache
2GB max DDR SDRAM
dvd/cd-rw combo
larger screen (most doubtful)
bluetooth
2FW inputs, 3-4 USB inputs
better enclosure, heat management
similar price point of current top of the line

Now riddle me this: Is this worth a potentially 4 mo. wait? Is Apple's track record such that we can expect the new PB to be a better, more reliable than the highly touted TiBook 800???


PLEASE ANSWER MEEEEE!!!!!
 
Originally posted by makkystyle
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Pants - check out the SonyEricsson Z700. As small as the T68 but with WAP AND HTML browser (unfortunately provided by microsoft), e-mail client (POP3, SMTP), very advanced games, color, bluetooth and that cool little Sony menu wheel you like so much.
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w00! I have a z5, which is actually pretty damned nice - but its a bit ropey, since its been for a 'swim' down the toilet a couple of times.... 🙁 I havent seen one of these, but if its an upgraded z5, I'll hunt one down!


As for PB upgrades...PLEASE put a usb port on THE RIGHT of the book - apple's mice cables seem to be very short, and seeing as the majority of the world is right handed, running it around the back makes for very restricted mouse movement. very unergonomic.
 
Originally posted by Megaquad

3rd party battery for PowerBook?! Where? Tell me!
As for firewire.. according to xlr8yourmac.com,FW port on Titanium has 20 mb/s throughput while powermac has circa 30 mb/s. So,it could be better.
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They are made by Electrovaya, and you can get them at Mac Zone
 
some corrections

iTurd some modifications to your thesis make it more plausible....

same size screen
same number of FW and USB
Enclosure the same
Where they go with the RAM is also questionable

If this does pan out, it will only be a speed "bump", not an overhaul of the machine. In my opinion it will be done just to hold the current line of PB over until the major overhaul which i would count on for 1st half of next year. That's when big changes will take place including DVD-R and new chips.
 
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