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Powerbook G4's in Paris?

South Pole...

Yama... No Apple store at the south pole, but last I heard there were quite a few Powerbooks down there.

I worked with a professor who spends all of her research time in Antartica and she used to always take her Powerbook. Not sure what she's using these days, but as I recall, that continent is rather rough on laptops.
 
Originally posted by SPG
"Superdrive" is not the only DVDR on the block anymore. There are other drives and even a competing format, DVD+R. Right now several vendors are working on making a smaller DVD-R drive, and there was some chatter on the DVD lists about the iminent release of a 4x burner. A superslim DVD-R drive has not been unveiled yet, but it is much more of a realistic possibility than a few months ago.
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Not to go off topic but..

There are two formats for DVD recording, DVD-R and DVD+RW. The former is what is used by Pioneer for the "superdrive" (A-03 or A-04), it is also the format used in all commercial DVD videos and players. The later is used by a lot of the other consumer DVD burner manufacturers. The DVD-R format is the format set forth by the DVDForum, the group that difines the specs for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-Audio, DVD-R (3.9 GB), DVD-R for General, DVD-R for Authoring, DVD-RW, DVD-RAM (2.6 GB and 4.7 GB) and DVD Video Recording.
 
Originally posted by makkystyle
TyleRomeo - May not be as the article said in Paris, but there are new PB on the way. My best guess for time is around the 25th when the educational double discount ends. It's simply a matter of product cycles, the PB is old and in need of a boost to keep pace with the computing field.
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I totally understand that PBs are on the way, and so are iBooks, IMacs, PMs ect.... there is always a cycle of the product line. Personally I would imagine an iMac power increase before we see new Powerbooks.

In January the fastest iMac ran at 800MHZ G4 and the PB ran at 667MHZ G4 until aprils 800MHZ jump. I expect an 867MHZ iMac running at 133MHZ SB to come out before we see a 933MHZ or 1GHZ PB.

There definately won't be PBs at Paris but I like your 25th idea. That in my opinion, would be the earliest that new PBs would appear but most likely you won't see any until after the 1.25GHZ PMs are actually out.

tyler
 
TyleRomeo:

If the iMac is upgraded first then Apple will find itself in the embarrasing position where some iMacs are undisputably faster than the best PB available. Also, there is reason to believe that there is a buildup of iMacs that need to be flushed before a major upgrade (probably GF4MX accross the line at that point).

If PB's are already going out of stock that should be a huge indication that an upgrade is close at hand.

iTurd:

There will almost certainly not be a 166mhz FSB or the 333mhz DDR RAM that would accompany it. The reason it that these draw more energy than the 133mhz/266mhz versions, and that the RAM is simply not widely available (in laptop form). There are many PC laptops with 266mhz DDR already, so Apple could do that.

As far as 2.0gb of RAM, that will not happen either, because as far as I know that would require 4 slots... which would be hard to see on a laptop, especially a small one like the PB.

Boy oh boy do I hope that Apple is able to deal with the heat and paint problems. The current TiBook looses much of it's appeal because of them.
 
Originally posted by ddtlm
TyleRomeo:

If the iMac is upgraded first then Apple will find itself in the embarrasing position where some iMacs are undisputably faster than the best PB available. Also, there is reason to believe that there is a buildup of iMacs that need to be flushed before a major upgrade (probably GF4MX accross the line at that point).

If PB's are already going out of stock that should be a huge indication that an upgrade is close at hand.
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Well as far as I know the iMac has been rated faster then Powerbook for at least the past year so your theory about the embarrasment has been going on for quite some time.

Like I said before from January to April of 2002 the iMac has had a 800MHZ G4 and the $3000 Powerbook only had a 667MHZ G4.

I could go back further to when the iMac had a 700MHZ G3 and the Powerbook was 550MHZ G4 but that leads to the battle between two different chips.

Tyler
 
Re: Re: Re: Bluetooth makes sense...

Originally posted by pgwalsh
You could start a whole new thread on this point. I'd be interested to know if it's possible. I have two Linksys access points and they have pcimcia card inside. However, the cards would still cost about the same as an accesspoint.
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I don't think I have the authority to start threads.
 
more fuel for the fire...

continuing on the after the student discount idea another interesting tidbit of information has shown up. This is a post from www.thinksecret.com:

The current quarterly sale for Apple employees features the current-model iBooks and TiBooks. Apple often uses its employee sale to reduce inventory on soon-to-be eol'ed computers. No PowerMacs, iMacs or eMacs are featured in this quarter's sale (which continues thru Sept. 27). So I wonder if this is an indication that Apple is getting ready to refresh the iBook and TiBook lines, before MWSF.

And yes: You have to know an employee in order to buy a computer through the employee sale.


...Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
I work with a Scandinavian Mac dealer.. and I can confirm the shortage of PowerBooks. The Scandinavian importer couldn't tell me when new shipments of PowerBooks would arrive. They told me that they hadn't recieved any from Apple for 2 weeks now.

Smells like update time!
Reef
 
Yeah..it makes sense they update it now before school begins, so all the rich kids can show it to their rich little friends who will buy it and I dont have damn money to buy one right now and I can buy it in february..but in february it will be 5 damn months old and if i wait then 2 more months i may get better titanium but it wont really matter damn it.. bloody hell arrrghh i am so pissed i wish i can buy it next month
 
Originally posted by Megaquad
.. bloody hell arrrghh i am so pissed i wish i can buy it next month
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Calm down there, we don't even know that it'll be here next month, it's all speculation.
 
amazon powerbook

It appears that Amazon has the 800 in stock again. Then again, Amazon's list of Apple laptops has items that have been discontinued for years. Probably not the best indicator of a supply shortage.
 
These reports just keep on coming. Here is another from www.thinksecret.com. Look at how cheap they are, it's like they are giving them away!!!! Apple is definately making room for something:

MikeC

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Posted: Aug. 28 2002,00:28

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I just discovered today that Apple is offering HUGE discounts on Titanium Powerbook's as part of the "San Jose State [University] Wireless Initiative" program here at SJSU in the Bay Area. There was a single page, single-sided flyer handed out to students listing the prices. The promotion states, in very fine print, "Prices subject to change at any time. These offers are available for a limited time and may expire prior to 10/1/2002." iBooks were discounted as well, though not nearly as favorably. All included Airport Cards.
Details follow:

San Jose State Wireless Laptop Initiative
Special Offers from Apple!

800MHz 1MB L3 Titanium:
Reg. Educational price: $3,007
SJSU price: $2,399 Yes that's $2,399!!!!!

667MHz Titanium 1MB L3 (w/ Airport card included):
Reg. Educational price: $2,442
SJSU price: $1,999

700MHz iBook Combo drive + Airport card
Education price: $1,545
SJSU price: $1,349

600MHz iBook CD-ROM 16MB RADEON + Airport card
Education price: $1,224
SJSU price: $1,049

So I guess the big question is, should I buy an 800MHz at these prices, or wait for the new models?

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Originally posted by makkystyle
800MHz 1MB L3 Titanium:
Reg. Educational price: $3,007
SJSU price: $2,399 Yes that's $2,399!!!!!
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Holly crap that's cheap, it's only £1,562!!!!!!!!!!!! Unbelievable!! 😀
 
Originally posted by verbose101

Calm down there, we don't even know that it'll be here next month, it's all speculation.
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naaah..too much rumors,discounts...I can smell new powerbooks..
Somewhere out there there is my PowerBook..he knows I will get him,he is waiting for me,hold on my little fellow!🙁
 
I smell IBM 750fx's with VMX unit in new PowerBooks!
Maybe even with dual CPU's! Think about it.. 750fx-like CPU would consume less power and run cooler!
 
With little diff between the 667 and 800 in performance and 400-700 difference in price (knowing you can upgrade your RAM and add airport).....sounds like I need to find a college student in San Jose. Great price.
 
Originally posted by makkystyle
These reports just keep on coming. Here is another from www.thinksecret.com. Look at how cheap they are, it's like they are giving them away!!!! Apple is definately making room for something:

800MHz 1MB L3 Titanium:
Reg. Educational price: $3,007
SJSU price: $2,399 Yes that's $2,399!!!!!
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Dang, I thought I went to a school with the best prices. Heck, $2760 here isn't bad for a 800 MHz, compared to $3007 in the regular edu store, and $3199 in the regular store.

You're one lucky dawg!😀
 
Dual Processors

Originally posted by Megaquad
I smell IBM 750fx's with VMX unit in new PowerBooks!
Maybe even with dual CPU's!
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Not another 😡 dual 😡 processor 😡 hopeful! 😀

Just playin' w/ ya.😉
 
Hmm, the 750FX is a decent chip and all, but it does lack L3 and has not been shown to clock as high as current G4's. I would also like to observe that the 750FX is made with 130nm technology, whereas the G4's are still made with 180nm tech, so as soon as Moto gets off it's duff and makes 130nm G4's, there will no longer be any reason to want a 750FX in a PB.

I am really wondering what Moto's 130nm hangup is... are they trying to be the lowest-tech in the whole industry or what?
 
Originally posted by Megaquad

3rd party battery for PowerBook?! Where? Tell me!
As for firewire.. according to xlr8yourmac.com,FW port on Titanium has 20 mb/s throughput while powermac has circa 30 mb/s. So,it could be better.
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That has 0 to do with the FireWire port and 100% to do with the speed of the hard disk.

M
 
Help!

While I'm always happy to see Apple upgrading and pushing the envelope, my 667 MHz is just about to be delivered (today/tomorrow). I'd hate to see it become obsolete as soon as I got it. But then, that's always the problems with computers these days.

On an unrelated note, can somebody help me source an Apple desktop picture I need for a project I'm working on. I've attached a screenshot below of the relevant desktop picture. I need the desktop picture as large as possible as I plan on scaling it to A2. So ideally I'm looking for someone with a giganto cinema-sized display who can provide it in the largest pixel dimension possible.

If you have this image (it should be in System Folder/Appearance/etc.) I'd be grateful if you could email it to me at:

chris@rodneymillerassoc.com

Thanks for your help. If you're curious to know what it's for, it's for a competition entry we're submitting. We designed a website for a San Diego based record label Bremsstrahlung Recordings which is based entirely on System 6.0 (http://www.lowercasesound.com) and we thought it would be nice to use one of Apple's newer desktop pictures as a background.

Thanks,

Chris
 
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new radeon 9000

ATi has released a new laptop graphics chip the Mobility Radeon 9000. As they say in their press release that it will be used in new laptops coming out next month many have speculated this might signal new powerbooks. There is a second press release however, that states that the chip will be used in a Compaq manufactured computer avilable for order mid-september.

As we know Steve-o is supposedly trying to get away from releasing new products at shows. We can certainly say that there will be no new PB releases before the end of the educational (ending sept. 25) and employee (ending sept. 30) sales. This all points to new PowerBooks in October, lets just hope they get the new ATi chip!!!!

On another note, I have been waiting to buy a new powerbook (my first mac since the IIcx I had in my room as a 12 year old) for about a month and a half now, just until the update. The prospect of the wait wasn't too bad until this morning when my piece of **** Compaq laptop blew it's hard drive after only two years. Now I have no computer and I am going to have to pay someone to recover all of my files from my HD. Yes, I know, I should have backed up!!!
 
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