i understand excitement i mean i am excited and read the rumor sites although i am not getting one - not yet anyway maybe in a few months time - i just dont understand why bashing Apple while well they are not at fault really. i mean you can say as much as you want that the 15" Ti is old but i have a 12" PB and I am playing with the 15" Ti 1GHz SD and it is an awesome machine. I think Apple does have a very good line up in decent prices of laptops. they might not be faster than 3GHz 30 minutes lasting 10lbs hernia causing PCs but they are extremely practical extremely stylish very well built and very well speced. if i needed a 15" now i would get the old one with no regrets whatsoever. if i could wait i would as long as it was possible. but i would definitely not yell at apple for not having an 15" Al PB out and a 12" with L3.
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I think that about sums it up for me..Originally posted by Bruja
This is You: $$$$$
This is Apple:
This is you without the new (6 month old technology but not released) powerbook
Any Questions??
Yell at Apple
Yes, I wouldn't yell at Apple either.
You see it's my personal philosophy that everyone is doing as best as they can, given what they have to work with...
Yes, even Motorola... Keep in mind they are severely handicapped in having sh*t for brains... So of course they're going to f*ck up.
(Ok, maybe that was a bit untoward, but I bet it at least got a chuckle out of some of you...)
Apple needs all the pieces to make a computer. If one of their suppliers shaft them, then we get shafted too. (Note: You have been shafted by the sh*t for brains at Motorola yet again. Just thought I'd let you know.)
So, if there are no new PowerBooks on the 19th, then wait for an announcement in September. And keep in mind, Apple has *not* released OS X 10.3 or the "new" PowerBooks, so they don't exist yet. Apple doesn't owe you updates in a timely fashion. Apple reserves the right to change it's product line and pricing at any time. However, Apple does *want* to provide you the best products possible. Because that's what makes them money.
So, when you get your brand new PowerBooks (for those of you waiting), just sit back a moment and contemplate: Was all the shafting really worth it?
H*ll yes.
Jaedreth
Yes, I wouldn't yell at Apple either.
You see it's my personal philosophy that everyone is doing as best as they can, given what they have to work with...
Yes, even Motorola... Keep in mind they are severely handicapped in having sh*t for brains... So of course they're going to f*ck up.
(Ok, maybe that was a bit untoward, but I bet it at least got a chuckle out of some of you...)
Apple needs all the pieces to make a computer. If one of their suppliers shaft them, then we get shafted too. (Note: You have been shafted by the sh*t for brains at Motorola yet again. Just thought I'd let you know.)
So, if there are no new PowerBooks on the 19th, then wait for an announcement in September. And keep in mind, Apple has *not* released OS X 10.3 or the "new" PowerBooks, so they don't exist yet. Apple doesn't owe you updates in a timely fashion. Apple reserves the right to change it's product line and pricing at any time. However, Apple does *want* to provide you the best products possible. Because that's what makes them money.
So, when you get your brand new PowerBooks (for those of you waiting), just sit back a moment and contemplate: Was all the shafting really worth it?
H*ll yes.
Jaedreth
When I hear that startup "bong" on my new 15" AlBook for the first time I am going to think to myself "What a wonderful world" Hell. Freaking. Yes!
Well, my 12" PBook order just got bumped from shipping "on or before 8/11" to "on or before 8/18". I'm trying really hard to take this as good news. FW 800 and less heat would be worth the agony. But I'm typing this on a 266mhz iMac, so you know I've been waiting quite a while already...
12" Pb - next gen...
Having read through all the posts in this thread, someone mentioned that they thought the next 12" PB would be 1ghz etc... with the same price and that the current 887 mhz would drop in price. That makes a lot of sense, as Apple still has a lot of the 12" in the channel. How attractive, even hot, would a 12" pb be at $1299 edu discount, $1399 standard? A G4, even without the L3 for $1299? I know I'd pop for one. If they don't update the pb's the 18th or 19th, I'll spring for a maxed out ibook 12"$1199 edu discount. The macbench scores have the ibook being better than the 12" G4 in all but 3 or 4 tests. Whattya think?
Having read through all the posts in this thread, someone mentioned that they thought the next 12" PB would be 1ghz etc... with the same price and that the current 887 mhz would drop in price. That makes a lot of sense, as Apple still has a lot of the 12" in the channel. How attractive, even hot, would a 12" pb be at $1299 edu discount, $1399 standard? A G4, even without the L3 for $1299? I know I'd pop for one. If they don't update the pb's the 18th or 19th, I'll spring for a maxed out ibook 12"$1199 edu discount. The macbench scores have the ibook being better than the 12" G4 in all but 3 or 4 tests. Whattya think?
Well, my 12" PowerBook order is still on target for "on or before 8/12", so I'm kinda doubting it.
Re: 12" Pb - next gen...
Well I ordered mine a few days ago at $1399 w/education discount (yes, they cut a whole $200, not just $100, off the PowerBooks).
Think they might actually offer it for $1199?? I dunno, I don't think I see that happening.
Well I ordered mine a few days ago at $1399 w/education discount (yes, they cut a whole $200, not just $100, off the PowerBooks).
Think they might actually offer it for $1199?? I dunno, I don't think I see that happening.
Brothers, sisters - - let's hold hands and channel our energy directly and fully into the production of these powerbooks.
And I am sure, as light follows night, that we will very soon be able to lighten our wallets accordingly as our new [insert desired inches here] Apple Powerbooks whir up to warm our little hearts and hands.
Together lets all pray so that we can pay for our notebooks, and then play with these great and given toys brought to us by the Apple of temptation. Amen.
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Speaking of Tempatation.... As an aside - the original apple logo with the rainbow colours in the wrong order is one of the finest logos ever. Why? Because it stands for Lust, Knowledge and Anarchy. Three of my favourite things
And I am sure, as light follows night, that we will very soon be able to lighten our wallets accordingly as our new [insert desired inches here] Apple Powerbooks whir up to warm our little hearts and hands.
Together lets all pray so that we can pay for our notebooks, and then play with these great and given toys brought to us by the Apple of temptation.
Amen.---
Speaking of Tempatation.... As an aside - the original apple logo with the rainbow colours in the wrong order is one of the finest logos ever. Why? Because it stands for Lust, Knowledge and Anarchy. Three of my favourite things
Uhm, our channeled energy made a Motorola chip plant explode.
I think we better learn to wield this power before we try using it again!
I think we better learn to wield this power before we try using it again!
don't want to excite anyone but i read an article in UK today at MacUser saying the following: Apple does not expect the PowerMac G5 to average the 300,000 units per quarter of the PowerMac G4. They expect them to be north of 200,000. This is due to the turn of professionals to higher end laptops. The magazine went on to comment that this is why they believe Apple is working day and night to come with high speed G5 PowerBooks. Maybe the comment "we won't see G5 in notebooks for a long time" was meant as a marketing strategy so the coming of the G5 processor won't jeopardise the sales of G4 notebooks especially if they are going to have one more iteration of G4s. I still don't believe that this is the reason of the delay but who knows Apple is known to surprise people right?
Thats absolutly true. And for the iBook as well (beside that the processor is running at a lower rate)
Cheers
CmdrLaForge
Year of the notebook
Apple said that this is the year of the notebook. Currently we got a slight speed bump on the iBooks - thats it. Everyone expected new revisions and new products.
But on the other hand notebook sales are relativly higher than ever - and I think thats what Apple meant.
Looking on revenues - this is the year of the notebook. More and more revenues come from notebook sales and this will go up in the future.
Cheers
CmdrLaForge
Apple said that this is the year of the notebook. Currently we got a slight speed bump on the iBooks - thats it. Everyone expected new revisions and new products.
But on the other hand notebook sales are relativly higher than ever - and I think thats what Apple meant.
Looking on revenues - this is the year of the notebook. More and more revenues come from notebook sales and this will go up in the future.
Cheers
CmdrLaForge
Fat Chance????
If (a big, fat "if") that is the case, that's good news for potential iBook customers, as well. The way I see it, they'd throw the G5 in the PowerBooks and then juice up the iBooks with that new Moto chip.
Unfortunately, the PowerBooks will probably not get the G5 "anytime soon." Or so I've heard.
Squire
If (a big, fat "if") that is the case, that's good news for potential iBook customers, as well. The way I see it, they'd throw the G5 in the PowerBooks and then juice up the iBooks with that new Moto chip.
Unfortunately, the PowerBooks will probably not get the G5 "anytime soon." Or so I've heard.
Squire
PowerBook G4 Next Week, says Kodawarisan.com
Now, for the Mac rumor mongers world wide, here's the latest from Tokyo.
http://www.kodawarisan.com/ug/index.html
Kodawarisan.com says
New Powerbook G4s will be out early next week.
There will be 12inch, 15inch, and 17inch models.
All models sport over 1GHz clock speed.
The body of 12inch model is slightly thiner than the current one.
No source is quoted other than a statement saying "obtained from a reliable source." But this site, true to Japanese norm, has been pretty cautious and conservative over all.
You can have machine translation with following URL:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr?doit=done&urltext=http://www.kodawarisan.com/ug&lp=ja_en
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Inunyan
Now, for the Mac rumor mongers world wide, here's the latest from Tokyo.
http://www.kodawarisan.com/ug/index.html
Kodawarisan.com says
New Powerbook G4s will be out early next week.
There will be 12inch, 15inch, and 17inch models.
All models sport over 1GHz clock speed.
The body of 12inch model is slightly thiner than the current one.
No source is quoted other than a statement saying "obtained from a reliable source." But this site, true to Japanese norm, has been pretty cautious and conservative over all.
You can have machine translation with following URL:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr?doit=done&urltext=http://www.kodawarisan.com/ug&lp=ja_en
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Inunyan
Wow, what publication was that? I'd stop reading it if I were you. Apple didn't sell anything close to 300,000 G4 PM in a recent quarter. From data on the Apple site, they sold 156,000 G4 PM in their second quarter. PM sales declined in Q3 to 133,000. Even that number includes Xserve units, not just desktops.
[Edit] I had Q2 numbers instead of Q3, so now both quarters are given.
Well, my 12" PowerBook, which was supposed to ship by today, is now listed as shipping on the 19th.
I hope this means upgrade!
I'll be awfully pissed if it doesn't.
I hope this means upgrade!
I'll be awfully pissed if it doesn't.
Re: PowerBook G4 Next Week, says Kodawarisan.com
We'll see... Not really assured that it's going to happen. Chicken Little has already stated a number of times that the sky was falling. One thing that I did find interesting was that Consumer Reports Magazine was really talking up the 867 Mhz 12" Pbk. and not the 1Ghz.
Yo' weev,
That sounds too "fluffy bunny" for me. I say we break out the consecrated salt, holy water and silver artefacts to construct a rightious pox on Moto for bollucksing up the whole situaton. The way I see it, we would be returning the bad energy sent out by Moto, thrice times.
That sounds too "fluffy bunny" for me. I say we break out the consecrated salt, holy water and silver artefacts to construct a rightious pox on Moto for bollucksing up the whole situaton. The way I see it, we would be returning the bad energy sent out by Moto, thrice times.