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Originally posted by bluesuspicion
I would really like to see a PB update today... I'm still using a 500mhz iBook 12", which would be fine I suppose, you know, if the USB ports weren't broken. But c'est la vie. Hopefully new PBs will be released before school starts.

I am in the same situation, I have an 600MHz iBook without QE that is getting a bit old. I want to sell it off before the applecare is out and buy a new PB12". But I can wait for a while, a faster 12" with backlight would be cool.
 
i dont know whether that post about apple releasing products in western time is good or bad...good because they might actually come out today (although unlikely)....bad because now i'm gonna be waiting for another two or three hours.

oh the pain :(
 
Originally posted by Lori
I'm sorry to hear about the USB ports being broken on your iBook. How did they ports wind up breaking? It was a hardware issue and not a software issue, right?


My iBook fell on its left edge, where the USB ports are. It messed them up. I think the warranty might have covered that, but it expired a while ago. No worries though, I have other computers to use when I need to work with peripherals.

It's my only Mac though, my first as well, and has been good enough for me to want to get another. :)

I want the new 15" PB to ahve built in bluetooth... my new phone (Sony Ericsson T616) uses the technology and it would be great if they could synch wirelessly.

:)
 
Rumor was wrong obviusly

This is the week that the G5's are shipping . Would Apple really want to steal the limelight away from the G5S ? They could announce the new PowerBooks maybe Thursday this week , but Monday , next week , would probably make more sense as they could showcase the new powerbooks on their website the whole week .
 
Originally posted by Lori
I'm thinking that they'd run hotter because of the size differences. It's not based on the amount of fans.

According to the info released in IBM docs, the G5 at 1.2 GHz consumes less power than a G4e at 1.0 GHz (19W vs 30W).

Originally posted by Lori
dammit, even the 12" better have that w/a g5), then it just makes sense to me that things are gonna get pretty toasty.

With a G5 and a fast memory bus, there is no need for L3. (oops, just saw Phil's reply...sorry)
 
Originally posted by bluesuspicion
I want the new 15" PB to ahve built in bluetooth... my new phone (Sony Ericsson T616) uses the technology and it would be great if they could synch wirelessly.

Absolutely, they can. In fact, if you get some software called Salling Clicker (or other similar software), you can use your T616 as a remote control for your Mac. :) Look for it at www.versiontracker.com.
 
Optimized for the Power Mac G5

Taken from maccentral.com:
"Apple subsidiary Emagic on Tuesday announced the release of Logic Platinum 6.2, a new version of their music production software. The new version is optimized for the Power Mac G5."


The Key words here are OPTIMIZED FOR THE G5. We are going to see a lot of that in the coming months. No way in hell am I going to buy a G4 Powerbook for thousands of dollars when all the applications are going to be optimized for a G5. Apple is going to make a big mistake here. I've been an Apple user since 1983 from my Apple IIe to my current Powermac G4 400 mhz. I am not trying to put apple down, I just think they really need to release the Powerbook G5 asap. I understand that they might not be able to release them now, but if and when the new Powerbook G4 comes out- they should have ibook prices and ALL the ibooks should be discontinued or updated to G4.

Why would I spend thousands of dollars on a G4 powerbook when for the same money I can get a duel G5 powermac that is much much faster. Unfortunatey I need the mobility, so once again Apple has me waiting.
 
Re: Optimized for the Power Mac G5

Originally posted by agentmouthwash
I understand that they might not be able to release them now, but if and when the new G4 comes out- they should have ibook prices and ALL the ibooks should be discontinued or updated to G4.

Yes, agreed.
 
What is the deal with ordering a Powerbook from the Apple Store if you were to do it today and a new PBook came out tomorrow? Would they offer to allow you to pay the difference, or would they sell you the new machine at the price you had agreed to pay for the one that it replaces? Does anyone here have any experience of this situation?

The reason I ask is because my girlfriend's getting itchy to order herself a 12" before the new university year starts, and I've had my Dad holding off buying a 15" for about 2 months!
 
Originally posted by JSRockit
Wow, so the pMacs after 733mhz and pBooks after the DVI are the only useful Macs? I know of alot of pros that use machines that have G4s without L3 Caches.

They could use a G3 iMac as well. Why not, after all? :)
 
Re: Optimized for the Power Mac G5

Originally posted by agentmouthwash
No way in hell am I going to buy a G4 Powerbook for thousands of dollars when all the applications are going to be optimized for a G5.

Optimizing for G5 doesn't mean doing anything to harm performance on a G4. Or G3 for that matter. Each chip has capabilities that can used. Why shouldn't the G5 be used to its potential? The G4 still will be as well.

By that logic, nothing should take advantage of AltiVec, because it would hurt G3 owners. But it doesn't. An AltiVec app runs as well on a G3 as a non-AltiVec app does.
 
Originally posted by Dunepilot
my girlfriend's getting itchy to order herself a 12" before the new university year starts

I could make a fortune if I developed an anti-Apple itch ointment.

Strong itches require strong medicine. It'll have to be prescription only.
 
Originally posted by Lori
You would think they'd be pretty happy about something like that...you know? The whole less work for them to do thing...lol.

Enjoy your new powerbook
They are def. great computers. Im still just learning how in the world to use mine and all these apple programs
 
Re: Optimized for the Power Mac G5

Originally posted by agentmouthwash
The Key words here are OPTIMIZED FOR THE G5. We are going to see a lot of that in the coming months.

What I think we will see much more of is Panther only apps. From what I can see the App libraries are improved a lot in panther. I for one can't wait to start experimenting with them.

This is of course a discussion for another place and time, but with no powerbooks to discuss... I wouldn't worry too much about G5 optimizing, the apps will still run great on a G4.
 
Re: Re: Optimized for the Power Mac G5

Originally posted by nagromme
Optimizing for G5 doesn't mean doing anything to harm performance on a G4. Or G3 for that matter.

That is not entirely true. "Optimizing for the G5" involves scheduling instructions so that the G5 processes them faster. The G3 and G4 process instructions differently from the G5; so code that is optimized for the G5 may not be ideally scheduled for the G4 or G3. IOW that code might run slower on the G3/G4 than code that was optimized for G3 or G4.

To get around that problem, companies might ship products that include separate code binaries, and the program automatically detects the processor and chooses the right code to run.
 
If they had come out today i would of been happy with a G4, now if its updated at the EXPO (the expo's that Apple wants to move away from) then it had better be a G5...whats a G4 weeks later or even now infact? Except i would of been happy with a G4 today.

I'm starting my college soon and i'm not buying whats available now, i want some future proofing...

I'll now wait till January if need be, the longer i wait for the update (G4 based) the more i DEMAND the G5 instead, we all know they are working on it.

However, given the pricing of the current G5's and given the distance it is from my house to college (500 feet approx) i might just buy a desktop G5 for the same price but get so much more, and bring a USB memory Keyring into college and use their computers.
 
I was thinking that whole pacific time thing earlier, but then I got side-tracked by not knowing if it's 4 hours back or 3 hours back from eastern time...so, I said oh well and scrapped that idea...

Most of the time, over the last few months, at around 8 or 9am ET when there has been a major update (ie - G5) the apple website has gone down and come back up around 9 or 10 with new products. That's what I was basing it on.

With the G5's out this week, I wouldn't be suprised if we don't see the PB updates either on Friday or next Tuesday at this point.
 
Originally posted by Dunepilot
What is the deal with ordering a Powerbook from the Apple Store if you were to do it today and a new PBook came out tomorrow? Would they offer to allow you to pay the difference, or would they sell you the new machine at the price you had agreed to pay for the one that it replaces? Does anyone here have any experience of this situation?

The reason I ask is because my girlfriend's getting itchy to order herself a 12" before the new university year starts, and I've had my Dad holding off buying a 15" for about 2 months!


in the US apple spots you 10 days...within that 10 days if you want to bring it back you're charged a 15 percent restocking fee but you can use the rest of the loot toward your new machine... but anything past that 10 day mark means you're better off with eBay...
 
Originally posted by erova
in the US apple spots you 10 days...within that 10 days if you want to bring it back you're charged a 15 percent restocking fee but you can use the rest of the loot toward your new machine... but anything past that 10 day mark means you're better off with eBay...

ITs actually 10% restocking fee cause I am still on my 5th day of my 10 days and hoping new one if comes out is in next few days.
 
Originally posted by Nitrous250
ITs actually 10% restocking fee cause I am still on my 5th day of my 10 days and hoping new one if comes out is in next few days.

This directly from Apple:
If you are not satisfied with your Apple purchase of a pre-built product, please call 1-800-676-2775 for a Return Material Authorization (RMA) request within 10 business days of the receipt of the product. If the item is returned unopened in the original box, we will exchange it or offer you a refund based on your original method of payment. The product must be returned to the Apple warehouse within 10 business days of the issuance of the RMA.
 
Re-stocking fees are great and all.

But what if your PB hasn't shipped yet? I've been waiting for my 12" PB to be shipped since I ordered it on the 7th. It's slated go get shipped today(after numerous delays), but hypothetically if they 'update' them today, what the heck are they going to send me?
 
Originally posted by Mikoyan
Re-stocking fees are great and all.

But what if your PB hasn't shipped yet? I've been waiting for my 12" PB to be shipped since I ordered it on the 7th. It's slated go get shipped today(after numerous delays), but hypothetically if they 'update' them today, what the heck are they going to send me?

I would think you would still get what you ordered but then can return it. Truth is it doesnt seem likely that any new powerbooks are coming within the next 10 days so if i was you I wouldnt worry
 
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