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Originally posted by woolf
no,no,no... there isn't going to be any updates til' later this year for those. it seems to me people on this site get all hyped up about something (ex. the ibox) then it never happens. I understand its not all going to happen but to a certain point you need to think logically. has apple ever released new products right around the super bowl? why would they do it now? apple never blows us away with lots of products in this short amount of time. it has only been a few weeks since macworld. i bet you nothing apple wont release a thing, but they may update their itms for the give away. the marketing strategie for apple is really predictable. apple always will hype stuff up before its released. apple only announces major new products twice a year. on one hand i like being able to enjoy my imac while its still the most recent , but on the other it seems apple is behind in releases compared to pc's. well maybe i'm just talking outa my az but you can be the one to decide. thats my story and im stickin to it!


I'd hardly call the iPod mini and GarageBand, huge introductions at MacWorld. It has been quite some time since significant upgrades to their computing product lines. And though I agree to the concept that Apple doesn't "normally" introduce things around the Superbowl, this is the 20th Anniversary since Apple's Superbowl announcement introducing the Macintosh, so this is a unique situation. Additionally, Steve Jobs loves the idea of keeping people guessing what he'll do next.
 
Originally posted by agentkow
My 15" Powerbook will now officially arrive on Monday.

Does anyone know what this last spec means from my order page:

PBG4 15.2/1.25GHZ/1024/80/SD/AP/BL/LL

I know it was a 15.2" screen, is 1.25 Gigahertz, has 2 512 Megahertz RAM dudes, an 80 gig hard drive, a SuperDrive, Airport, and a backlit keyboard, but whats the "LL"?
Hmmmm? L L
Did you buy:
AppleCare Protection Plan (APP) ?

If not, maybe they are wishing you
Lots of Luck after the 1st year. LL? :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Mr Maui
Steve Jobs loves the idea of keeping people guessing what he'll do next.
Yes he does, a regular Barnum & Bailey Circus performer at times. ;)

"Oops! Sorry Disney, no more Pixar for you" :p
 
Originally posted by agentkow
My 15" Powerbook will now officially arrive on Monday.

SNIP... but whats the "LL"?

Thanks in advance, everyone here is so darn helpful.

Are you young, male and single - and a geek - then its pretty clear that apple know that this baby is your "Love Life" ;) :)
 
I did get the Apple Care Protection Plan, but it was shipped separately, has already arrived, and looks like this on my order:

APP FOR POWERBOOK-E/K-USA

As for my Love Life, I'm already married, so perhaps its that custom Lava Lamp I added to the configuration?

There was those rumours about the mac that had the ability to change colours and stuff...
 
Lots of Lava

Originally posted by agentkow
I did get the Apple Care Protection Plan...
"LL"? perhaps its that custom Lava Lamp I added to the configuration?

There were those rumours about a Mac with the ability to change colours and stuff...
 

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Re: What was it like before the last round of updates?

Originally posted by Mr.kr

Please be aware that I'm not asking for your speculation on when updates are coming (though feel free), no one can know that for sure, just what it was like before updates last time.

TIA,

--
Kary Rogers
My Apple Store experience

The 15" powerbooks were rumnored in January 03 with updates expected in March...and the arrived in October!!!!!!!
 
Originally posted by pjkelnhofer
I would think you should call Apple. Anything ordered after 1/6 should have shipped with the latest version.

Unless, it was a refurb. I don't think those rules apply.

Ilife will ship in models starting February 04! Not any sooner.
 
Originally posted by dryvlee
What is the source of your claim? SJ last keynote mentioned that iLife 4 would ship on 16 Jan 04.

According to the Apple website if you purchased a computer after Jan. 6, 2004 that did not come with iLife '04 you can get it for a discount ($19.95).

I can't find anywhere where it says when new computers will start shipping with it, but since the discount ends on March 26 I would assume it is before that.
 
Originally posted by maclamb
I just bought a ibook 933 at an apple store and iLife 04 came in the box.

I wonder, was yours BTO or just a standard config. Maybe you get lucky if they have to open the box anyhow, but if the don't then you end up paying the $19.95 to get it.
No matter what the explination, it seems odd that it is hit or miss whether you are going to get it for free if you order a computer right now.
 
i bought stock one - "off the shelf" as it were.
Also, it was a "refresh" - had been opened and brought back - saved me 10% and I didn't have the joy of being first. Not a biggie - I've done that a few times with macs already -perosnally I'd rather save the $
 
Re: G5 PowerBook release date?

Originally posted by MacRAND


When is there going to be a G5 book, no one knows. I'm personally not betting on the end of this year, so I'd be shocked if there was a March 2004 release. And, I'm not going to be a Guinea Pig as an early adopter for some pretty radical new technology that's got to go into any new G5 PowerBook. Let the tech and the cost stew a bit in the market place before jumping in with blind faith and $3000. :cool:
Thank you - well said - and I agree totoaly about not being an early adopter of new Arch Pb like the G5 - I've worked for and with large sw/hw companies (oracle, NeXT, Apple and *I* wouldn't spend a lot of time and money on a .0 release...
Not that there's anything wrong with being an early adopter - BTDT - Newton, for example as a developer and user, ok fine take one for the team and to help a new idea/technology. - ipod, for example -
but a G5 in a PB - by March, be REAL surprised and no - I'll sit with my new ibook and watch from the sidelines for that one - Sure - would sell the ibook on ebay and upgrade to a g5 PB at some poiunt - but not first out.
 
Steve's words

Originally posted by agentkow
When i ordered my Powerbook back on the 14th, the Apple guy assured me it would come with the new iLife.

At MWSF, Steve said that all new machines would be shipping with iLife.

From what the folks on this thread are saying, it seems like Apple's definition of 'new' takes on a whole new meaning.

Pay $19.95 for iLife when Steve said it would be included? No way, dude.

Hold 'em to their word....
 
Originally posted by pjkelnhofer
According to the Apple website if you purchased a computer after Jan. 6, 2004 that did not come with iLife '04 you can get it for a discount ($19.95).

Right. This is why I found it "mildly annoying" and not worse that my wife's PB didn't come with it.

I can't find anywhere where it says when new computers will start shipping with it, but since the discount ends on March 26 I would assume it is before that.

I think the official Apple policy is probably something like "when we run out of stock machines that have the old version". (I.e., no guarantees.) I knew when I ordered on the 16th that I was taking this risk (just as people who bought Macs after 10/24 didn't all get them with Panther preinstalled).

So I'll just order the iLife Up-to-Date and pay my $19.95 and not waste bile and rancor and phone time over an amount of money that's only slightly more than it costs me to get a pizza. (And I'll pony up another $50 to get a fresh copy of iLife '04 for my desktop machine too.)

I'm also not taking any bets over whether my new PB (which should arrive tomorrow) will have iLive '04 on it, even though my wife's (on the same invoice ordered at the same exact moment) didn't. Too many variables to bother guessing.
 
You know, someone pointed out that with the original Mac, Apple had the announcement during the Superbowl, and then released the product on the next day... a monday. Now, this rumor is that there will be new PBs on Feb 2nd, right? But everyone complained that this isn't in line with Apple's Tuesday announcements...

Well, just suppose that's because the actual announcement's coming today during the SB...

Just a thought...
 
iLife '04 and sensibility

Personally, I think this makes perfect sense. I don't quite understand all the uproar over iLife pricing.

So what if Jobs promised at the keynote that "all new systems will include it"? I'd take that to mean it's planned to start shipping with anything they package up after that date. Stores (retail or web based) usually have some existing stock of systems ordered earlier. Why do people expect someone to go around opening up every box to see what's in it, and adding free copies of iLife '04 if they're not in there?

I bought my PB 15" at the end of December '03, so I didn't even quite qualify for the $19.95 special. Big deal! I knew something like this might happen - and I could have opted to wait and buy my notebook later if it was that big a concern. Instead, I wanted to have it and start using it over the holidays (while I had some free time to get it all configured how I wanted it!).

I bought my iLife '04 at CompUSA, where they've been running a special to get $10 off on a piece of software if you sign up for AOL. $39.95 (and a little time to call and cancel with AOL afterwards) was more than a fair deal for GarageBand and all the other new iLife features!


Originally posted by Djehuti

So I'll just order the iLife Up-to-Date and pay my $19.95 and not waste bile and rancor and phone time over an amount of money that's only slightly more than it costs me to get a pizza. (And I'll pony up another $50 to get a fresh copy of iLife '04 for my desktop machine too.)

I'm also not taking any bets over whether my new PB (which should arrive tomorrow) will have iLive '04 on it, even though my wife's (on the same invoice ordered at the same exact moment) didn't. Too many variables to bother guessing.
 
Originally posted by maclamb
I just bought a ibook 933 at an apple store and iLife 04 came in the box.

Was it pre-installed...or just thrown in on top of the box. Apple store employees are physically puttting the ilife disk in the box, for you to install.

Please see this note from Apple's website,




On January 6, 2004, Apple announced iLife '04, the next generation of Apple's award-winning suite of digital lifestyle applications. The new iLife '04 applications—iPhoto 4, iMovie 4, iDVD 4, iTunes 4.2, and GarageBand—will begin shipping with new Macs in early February.

Until that transition is complete, an iLife Up-To-Date upgrade package is available for a shipping and handling fee of $19.95 (US) to all customers who purchase a new Mac on or after January 6 that does not include iLife '04. For complete details about the program, please visit http://www.apple.com/ilife/uptodate/.

iLife '04 leads the industry in allowing consumers to easily organize their photos, manage their music collection, create movies, author DVDs, and now create music. If your customers purchase a new Mac without iLife '04, be sure to tell them about the iLife Up-To-Date package.
 
Originally posted by Snowy_River
You know, someone pointed out that with the original Mac, Apple had the announcement during the Superbowl, and then released the product on the next day... a monday. Now, this rumor is that there will be new PBs on Feb 2nd, right? But everyone complained that this isn't in line with Apple's Tuesday announcements...

Well, just suppose that's because the actual announcement's coming today during the SB...

Just a thought...

You know, that was 20 years ago. Things have changed. In recent history (about the last year or two) Apple has mostly released products on Tuesday.
 
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