PowerMac 2.0GHz Machines - 10-15 Business Days

[tazznb]

I feel for you....

Originally posted by Bob Knob
Having someone decide who needs a computer the most is one of the most bizarre things I've ever come across. And no, this is not how Apple has been run in the past, one of my employees worked at Apple for four years in the education sales divisions (before Apple nuked the whole thing)
So now according to Apple a student having access to a new computer is more important than his/her parents using the same computer to make the money to send him/her to school.

I work in education; there's a LOT that people don't see.

If you could see all the Dells stockpiled in the schools, and how some dept supervisors / heads of technology try anything to refuse getting an Apple order (almost to the point that you'd think they get paid under-the-table for doing so). You have some of these twisted minds trying to ban purchases of Apple computers!

Apple not being in time for any educational institution GIVES THEM THAT EXCUSE!

That's how they lost the edu market in the first place; you can't put a time-sensitive educational institution in the same queue with the casual purchasers.

You have to believe me when I say they are making the right move.

Lat thing; no one puts more unnecessary wear on a computer than kids. I'm sure we replace computers more than most companies

Besides if it were February we wouldn't get first dibs.

 

[MattG]

I haven't received a letter from Apple regarding my order, and my shipping date (9/2) hasn't changed. Does this mean I can assume it will be here on time??

The only thing that I could imagine might be my saving grace is the fact that I ordered this under the ADC program (with the student membership), and I'm having it shipped directly to the school I happen to work at. It's not FOR the school, it's a personal computer for me. I'm just having it shipped there because there's no one home at my house during the day to sign for it. Hmm...

 

[Alexander]

Originally posted by MattG
The only thing that I could imagine might be my saving grace is the fact that I ordered this under the ADC program (with the student membership), and I'm having it shipping directly to the school I happen to work at. It's not FOR the school, it's a personal computer for me. I'm just having it shipped there because there's no one home at my house during the day to sign for it. Hmm...

I wouldn't put stock in the address; I live on a well-known campus, but got the email. I'm a paying (non-student) ADC member, and while I used the same Apple ID, I didn't order this particular machine through that program.

Has anyone using the ADC discount gotten the email?

 

[3-22]

Demand...

I think Apple when planning there production runs guessed wrong. I'm thinking they did not expect so many duals to sell, out selling all other models actually. Duals have a different motherboard, and also of course require 2 of the most high end processors. The processor too probably also have been slow to deliver being the top performer. I guess G5 production is like intel, a chip is made and rated on it's performance. If it's not stable at 2.0, then mark it as 1.8GHz (and so on).

I think Apple should have expected the demand but who knows... People have been waiting so long for a new processor, but then again the tech. market is still so unstable and you wouldn't think most people are in a postion to blob down 3k for a computer.

Anyway, we'll see... But this is lousy PR, but will probably soon be forgetten in a coupe months.

 

[3-22]

Originally posted by Alexander
I wouldn't put stock in the address; I live on a well-known campus, but got the email. I'm a paying (non-student) ADC member, and while I used the same Apple ID, I didn't order this particular machine through that program.

Has anyone using the ADC discount gotten the email?

I'm a ADC member (student), and have not received any emails or calls. Mine still has 9/2, but I guess I'll see what Tuesday brings...

 

[Pandora]

Maybe they're shipping international orders first? If I'd order one now I'd have to wait 8-10 days (switzerland)

 

[Rocketman]

Originally posted by SeaFox
Hey, which do we think will happen first:

1) Apple ships 2Ghz G5's

2) Apple intros new Powerbooks

3) Apple releases Panther

4) iTunes and iTMS for Windows released

5) Bill Gates releases statement: "The reason Longhorn has been delayed until 2005 is that Apple hasn't released Panther yet. We can't continue work on the next version of Windows until we have something to copy off of."

I felt this was the best message to reply to

Perspective gentlemen. Apple took your early adopter orders on or about June 23. It then stated late August delivery. Everybody who knows Apple knows that really always meant early September "if you are lucky". Turns out you WERE lucky. A bit surprising to many I assure you.

Shipping to platinum developers for quite some time was not surprising. Shipping early full production machines to education customers was not surprising. Shipping near-early full production to early adopter consumers and the tiny number of foreign pre-orders will not be surprising.

Then they will ship to their own stores weeks before they ship to the dealers that have been with them for decades with unbelievable loyalty. They will receive insufficient quantities for their pre-orders of course, so some customers will cancel and go to an Apple store where stacks of in-stock not pre-ordered G5's will be readily available.

Apple is sooo predictable.

Wintel iTunes, better hurry. Alternative networks are already shipping using crippleware servers and players.

Rocketman

Opinion, the whole thing.

 

[MacFix]

from 9/26 TO 9/22

just after the emali from Apple ( 10-15 days ) i got my order estimated shipping dropped to 9/22 so this means at least 1 good news in the last 24 Hrs...


anyone have the same ?"

 

[synthetickittie]

apple always sets a date when their new hardware will ship and the top one never ships on that time at least not to everyone that ordered on the first day. The only difference right now is that SO many people are experiencing this first hand. I ordered the top line of the last bath of powermancs (1.42 dual g4), I was given 4-7 weeks and it really shipped in 9 weeks. For the people complaining just shut up because your lucky %^$%$ are up to get a dual 2ghz g5 BUT if you truly have something you NEED it to get done asap and can not wait I suggest you call up apple and state exactly why you cant wait.

 

[GigaWire]

With ADC orders, there is no bump. They retain their shipping times, and will ship on the time specified. All ADC orders have been in a different queue from the very beginning.

 

[bikertwin]

New article on Think Secret states:

According to reports, Virginia Tech placed the dual-2GHz G5 order shortly after the G5 was announced.

So much for my theory. Well, I guess I'm no more accurate than the rumor sites.

 

[mistersquid]

Community versus Individual

I've been reading a lot of posts by unhappy people. I can understand the frustration of people who for different reasons want their machines now. Some don't have a machine; some want to switch; others have a machine that's too slow.

But all of this complaining misses the fact that Virginia Tech's (and others?) gargantuan purchase of G5s signals a huge shift in the thinking of Information Technology departments at major universities. The receding ship dates for dual 2.0 GHz G5s is the result of something that bodes extremely well for education, industry, Apple, and Macintosh users in general.

I'm not saying put on a happy face because frankly delayed ship dates wank. But somewhere here something about clouds and lining seems appropriate.

 

[nexus810]

im an adc student member and my ship date was stedy at 8/29 till about 8 pm est and is now 10/14 -- 3 months later than when i purchased it in July. I called apple and got my 2nd day fee credted at least.

Here at NYU where i am using imacs to do this since i dont ahve a computer there are definetly more macs thans dells. However, I am a Stern business student and the comp labs in teh stern building are all Dells. Here though in the library that are available to everyone are all iMacs (new and old) and powermac G4s (like 866s or somethign i think)

This makes me angry to say the least how Apple just basically skrewed me bigtime.

 

[jj2003]

G5 Processor configurations

So Apple is once again slipping from annouced delivery date. On one hand it seems very strange to do this again and again but this time I was not surprised.

When I look at the G5 models and their pricing I do not see the logic of it. Usually processors with a higher frequency are harder to produce than slower, but Apple decided to make the processor configurations so that the model that uses the fastest processor is also dual.

Then they priced the models so that the top model is definately the model with the best value. This combined with the previous fact means trouble.

Could someone please explain what Apple was thinking when they chose this strategy, why not 1x1.8 1x2.0 and 2x1.6 or something similar? Or at least make the price of the top model so high that it would not give as good value compared to the other models.

 

[jelloshotsrule]

Originally posted by nexus810
Here at NYU where i am using imacs to do this since i dont ahve a computer there are definetly more macs thans dells. However, I am a Stern business student and the comp labs in teh stern building are all Dells. Here though in the library that are available to everyone are all iMacs (new and old) and powermac G4s (like 866s or somethign i think)

hah. that's why you need to go to tisch where everything is macs.

 

[rjwill246]

get a grip

I hope all those individuals so rudely indulging in low-class and, IMO, very childish anti-Apple rhetoric have the guts, if not the courtesy to apolgise on these pages, if their machines do arrive in a reasonable timeframe. In any case, having a meltdown over time 'slippage' is embarrassing to say the least, as all new products have the potential to not meet shipping dates. Apple's innovative product usually does slip because they aren't using off the shelf crap... if they did we all know what the response to THAT would be... so unless you were immoderate enough in your planning, and set yourself up for some inefficient scenario, you should not care if they arrive this minute or the next. Just getting one puts you into an elite group on the planet. Be grateful that you have had the opportunity to partake, even if it falls short of your expectations with respect to timeframe. I am making a trip to Australia in just over a month and have a need to set one up in a system there... if it's there great, if not, I don't think time will stop! Annoying..? a little, but that's my problem, not Apple's.
Btw, I hope most of those complaining here are under 13... otherwise it does not bode well for this country.

 

[kangaroo]

Patience is bitter but its fruit is sweet.

 

[bubbagump]

Getting the G5s to educational institutions first might make sense, but from my experience, these boxes can sit in receiving for over a week. Then they need to wait around for the techs to get to hooking them up, because it is forbidden for anyone to install their own department computers. This is how it is at least in our public school. I think for schools to have them for back to school, most of them wouid have needed the systems two weeks ago. Sorry Apple, you already missed the deadline.

Bubba

 

[reiggin]

Re: get a grip

Originally posted by rjwill246
... if it's there great, if not, I don't think time will stop! Annoying..? a little, but that's my problem, not Apple's.
Btw, I hope most of those complaining here are under 13... otherwise it does not bode well for this country.

Bravo! Well said! People, it's a computer for crissakes. It's not like your wife's baby is being delayed another 4 weeks (and if it is, I think you should demand that the OB/GYN give you a free overnight shipping credit). And why the heck is everyone just blaming Apple? They order component parts from dozens of suppliers, some of which are brand new parts (PCI-X, for instance). Do you really think Apple has utlimate control over when it receives these parts? They said "end of August" based on all the commitments they received from these suppliers. What do you want Apple to do? Put a few paper clips in your machine instead of the 8x AGP slot they promised? Meanwhile, in the real world, people in many parts of this country and the world as a whole can't get basic necessities for daily living, including food, fresh water, and medical supplies. And you have the audacity to bitch and moan about your precious computer being a couple weeks late. Gimme a break. While you wait for it, how about you go out and volunteer at a soup kitchen and see how the rest of the world lives without a Dual 2ghz G5.

 

[yoshi1013]

Originally posted by jelloshotsrule
hah. that's why you need to go to tisch where everything is macs.

Yeah, except the Tisch computers haven't been upgraded in ages upon ages and it doesn't look forthcoming. They don't even have OS X!! (ex-TA talking here)

 

[elo]

Having just waited six weeks too long for order fulfillment from IBM (who, I guarantee, also gives priority to its institutional customers), this doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Apple *has* to fill its big orders or risk cancellation. That would be a more newsworthy black eye than anything happening here. And their e-mail was plainly honest about the situation and what they're doing about it.

I would suggest that everyone take a big breath and follow the instructions in the e-mail. If you can wait, wait. If you can't, adjust or cancel your order. If you *need* a particular perk (e.g. expidited shipping) from Apple to make it worth the wait, then call and ask them. The worst they can do is say no, and it appears that they are trying to be accommodating.

elo

 

[Freg3000]

Too bad this Virginia Tech story gets lost in the anger of people not getting their G5s. I don't know if VT is a long time Mac supporter, but this is great news as I see it. How cool would it be to have on the world top 5 fastest computers powered by Macs?

My suggestion for everyone who has an order that was bumped, is to call, and get the shipping changed to overnight, and then get the fee waived. It has worked for many people, and you should give it a try.

Try to hang in there. At least it is a good problem to have-you could be waiting for nothing!

 

[rundevilrun]

Re: Re: get a grip

Originally posted by reiggin
Bravo! Well said! People, it's a computer for crissakes. It's not like your wife's baby is being delayed another 4 weeks (and if it is, I think you should demand that the OB/GYN give you a free overnight shipping credit). And why the heck is everyone just blaming Apple?

I don't think anyone is blaming Apple for the delays, it's mostly their handling of it. Changing the ship date just hours before is just poor form. Especially if the delay is due to supply/demand. If Apple had sent out that email and changed ship dates a week ago there would probably be much less complaining here. Instead they came out 2 days before and said they were on track for shipping the duals by the end of August.

 

[chetwilliams]

Originally posted by Alexander

Has anyone using the ADC discount gotten the email?

I ordered a Dual G5 thru ADC and have not gotten the e-mail.

 

[rjwill246]

Re: Re: Re: get a grip

Originally posted by rundevilrun
I don't think anyone is blaming Apple for the delays, it's mostly their handling of it. Changing the ship date just hours before is just poor form.

You don't know the circumstances that led to Apple's "delay." They may well have been told there were no problems... a not uncommon thing when dealing with suppliers who WILL wait until the last minute to tell you they cannot deliver the goods. In the past, Apple has been very reasonable about informing people of delays... the way these complaints are posted, you would think that Apple is reveling in this situation. Indeed, the posts here have nothing to do with how Apple has handled this. The form of the complaints has been petty and petulant... with virtually no insight into the great difficulties there are in manufacturing something as complicated as this would have been. Indeed, the Belles of St Trinian's couldn't compete with this lot of "girlish" drivel.

Originally posted by reiggin
And you have the audacity to bitch and moan about your precious computer being a couple weeks late. Gimme a break. While you wait for it, how about you go out and volunteer at a soup kitchen and see how the rest of the world lives without a Dual 2ghz G5.

Great message... Let's hope this thread unravels in a hurry. It's an embarrassment to know that these Mac users don't "Think Different!"