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PowerMac G5 Update?
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Abu Reno
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To Dear Friend Laslo Panaflex
Listen buddy, If I knew it was going to take nearly 1 YEAR to go from 2.0 to 2.6 I would of purchased my G5 when they came out. What I do own is a Dual 1.42. Now, you should be the one to encourage apple to release FASTER COMPUTERS RATHER THEN SITTING THERE CRYING ABOUT THE INVESTMENT YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE ON YOUR G5 DUAL 2.0 WHEN YOU PURCHASED IT.
Yours Truly 🙂
NOW BRING OUT THE DUAL 3GIG
Listen buddy, If I knew it was going to take nearly 1 YEAR to go from 2.0 to 2.6 I would of purchased my G5 when they came out. What I do own is a Dual 1.42. Now, you should be the one to encourage apple to release FASTER COMPUTERS RATHER THEN SITTING THERE CRYING ABOUT THE INVESTMENT YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE ON YOUR G5 DUAL 2.0 WHEN YOU PURCHASED IT.
Yours Truly 🙂
NOW BRING OUT THE DUAL 3GIG
pjkelnhofer
macrumors 6502a
the powermac is importent and all but what about the Ipod which needs to be upgraded because the competitors are makeing things better
"Leaks" providing false information on purpose?
This whole thing is really strange, every rumour site providing different information, so what is going on? Could it be the certain pieces of (false?) information are leaked on purpose to keep us in the dark about what is really coming? Besides no one seemed to know anything about Airport Express, so Apple seems to have everything under controll. Secondly, I don't think Apple will introduce a CTO system à la Dell where you can choose which CPU, GPU, etc you want (or 5 or 6 different configs). So I think we'll see three configs as always.
This whole thing is really strange, every rumour site providing different information, so what is going on? Could it be the certain pieces of (false?) information are leaked on purpose to keep us in the dark about what is really coming? Besides no one seemed to know anything about Airport Express, so Apple seems to have everything under controll. Secondly, I don't think Apple will introduce a CTO system à la Dell where you can choose which CPU, GPU, etc you want (or 5 or 6 different configs). So I think we'll see three configs as always.
zap23 said:
Apple must have ordered a boatload of those cards for the G5's for last year and the delays meant they have a lot in stock so they are going to use them up in the new G5's until the supplies are exhausted.
Which sucks by the way.
iriejedi
macrumors 6502a
VIDEO CARD OPTIMISM
PLEASE NOTE: if you customize a G5 today thay are all 7-10 bus days (even stock is the same - that is odd)
BUT.. IF YOU ADD a 9800pro card the wait jumps to 5-7 weeks. NOW THAT IS REALLY ODD. Makes me believe the delay is due to geting the x800 card from ATI.... see glass half full - a much better way to live.
IJ
PLEASE NOTE: if you customize a G5 today thay are all 7-10 bus days (even stock is the same - that is odd)
BUT.. IF YOU ADD a 9800pro card the wait jumps to 5-7 weeks. NOW THAT IS REALLY ODD. Makes me believe the delay is due to geting the x800 card from ATI.... see glass half full - a much better way to live.
IJ
jocknerd said:
I can see where people are less than excited by these numbers but there are a few things that I think a lot of people are overlooking. These are CPU speeds we are talking about here, the one thing that Mac users have been claiming for years that don't matter, but now there is a huge uproar over the fact that there may only be a 500Mhz upgrade to the high end this summer. There are so many other factors that go in to the performance of this machine that its not even funny. If anythink I am more upset about the GPU offerings than anything else. I would like to see some new high end ATI stuff, and PCI Express. There could also be strides made in memory speed, or the number of spaces for hard drives to raise the pretty low limit of 500GB (low for a machine that can have 8GB of RAM)
How about 90nm CPUs and 1MB of LV2 cache or other hardware tweaks that we wouldn't even think about. My point is not to get bent out of shape because they sound less than amazing, wait till we see something. However, if the best you can get is still a 9600XT (i thought the 9800 was also availible) I will wait or get a better card myself whenever they are availible.
How about 90nm CPUs and 1MB of LV2 cache or other hardware tweaks that we wouldn't even think about. My point is not to get bent out of shape because they sound less than amazing, wait till we see something. However, if the best you can get is still a 9600XT (i thought the 9800 was also availible) I will wait or get a better card myself whenever they are availible.
Laslo Panaflex
macrumors 65816
Abu Reno said:
Let me clearify what I was trying to say. I am in no way discouraging apple from updating the powermacs, I would love them to be updated it would be good for apple and its costumers. I am merely trying to say that people need to relax when it comes to bashing Apple/Steve/IBM for lying or not trying to be able to get to 3ghz.
1. All information is still speculation and not truth
2. Steve and Apple are in no way legally required to release 3gig G5's
I know it sucks for those that waited for a year in hopes of getting a dual 3gig, but it's technology, and things happen.
As for me being worried about loosing my investment, nah, I have easily paid for the price of the G5 with all the extra money I have made due to increased performance and capabilities. I actually could buy a dual 3gig if they were released, but like I said, I am very happy with my dual 2gig, and will not be upgradig any time soon.
Abu Reno, you need to relax, it's just a computer, and if you really needed a new computer that badly, you would have bought a new G5 when they were released, and not waited a year, not matter what statements were said in regards to speed.
workin' hard
Apple's hardware teams have been working long and hard hours to get us the best that they can build with the supplies they have available to them.
Let's recognize the people behind the products.
Apple's hardware teams have been working long and hard hours to get us the best that they can build with the supplies they have available to them.
Let's recognize the people behind the products.
Ding Ding Ding
We have a winner! Tell them what they won! No one knows anything.
Calebj14 said:
We have a winner! Tell them what they won! No one knows anything.
theSingleCell
macrumors newbie
I'd like to see Apple return to that very profitable business model.
Ya know the one where the iMac was 799
PM's wew 1599 and up
Hell, the iMac these days costs as much as the PM's do, this is what killed the cube, products that compete with each other.
The eMac is 799, but lets face it, its ugly. Its the sterile PC version of the original iMac.
redesign the eMac or redesign the iMac and return it to its price point (799-999 or 1099) and slap a 1.6 g5 in it.
Make the PM's all 2x chips.
One thing that PC companies do is have a "lost leader", a machine that they don't really make any money on, and mac needs that bad. If the eMac could be sexed up a little and given a 1.6 g5 and sold for 799......Apple would begin converting those sitting on the fence, the eMac just doesn't seem like an Apple design.
Ya know the one where the iMac was 799
PM's wew 1599 and up
Hell, the iMac these days costs as much as the PM's do, this is what killed the cube, products that compete with each other.
The eMac is 799, but lets face it, its ugly. Its the sterile PC version of the original iMac.
redesign the eMac or redesign the iMac and return it to its price point (799-999 or 1099) and slap a 1.6 g5 in it.
Make the PM's all 2x chips.
One thing that PC companies do is have a "lost leader", a machine that they don't really make any money on, and mac needs that bad. If the eMac could be sexed up a little and given a 1.6 g5 and sold for 799......Apple would begin converting those sitting on the fence, the eMac just doesn't seem like an Apple design.
Doesnt Add Up
I just have a hard time believing the validity of this ThinkSecret rumor. If the graphics cards and archeitecture are remaining unchanged in the 1.8 and 2.0 models, why would they release new ones. Why would the Rev As be discounted when they are the same machines as the new "Rev Bs." Even if they were going to 90nm - what's the point of a 90nm 2.0 that's exactly the same in every other fashion to a 130nm 2.0. It just doesn't make sense.
And another thing - notice how only the "top end" 2.5-2.6 gets a new graphics card. does that mean they're lowering the GPU of the 2.0 to a nvidia... no way.
I just have a hard time believing the validity of this ThinkSecret rumor. If the graphics cards and archeitecture are remaining unchanged in the 1.8 and 2.0 models, why would they release new ones. Why would the Rev As be discounted when they are the same machines as the new "Rev Bs." Even if they were going to 90nm - what's the point of a 90nm 2.0 that's exactly the same in every other fashion to a 130nm 2.0. It just doesn't make sense.
And another thing - notice how only the "top end" 2.5-2.6 gets a new graphics card. does that mean they're lowering the GPU of the 2.0 to a nvidia... no way.
Frobozz
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Zaty said:
I think you may be on to something. It was Think Secret that actually said their information in a previous (non-G5 related) post may have been, in part, a way to weed out snitches. If the information released matches a false release then they know it boils down to the people in the chain of command for the faked/modified release.
It could be that this is a way for Apple to find out who's leaking specs before they actually release something. Or, it could all be true.
I think MWSF will be tremendous no matter what is announced because it's clear there will be some great announcements: iMac, PowerMac, Tiger, etc. Also, has anyone noticed that Apple has only served a "cease" letter to Apple Insider for the pictures of the G5? The pictures are one thing... the SPECS are another. No "cease" letter for those.
I don't want to read too much into this (too late?) but I'm here to speculate. 🙂
~Shard~
macrumors P6
Yikes, there are too many threads on this topic and they're geting out of hand! I can't keep up - this thread, the "PowerMacs June 8th" Page 2 thread, the "2.6 GHz PowerMacs Tomorrow" thread, the "Upcoming Releases" thread, the "Something Next Week" thread, the "New PowerMac Photos" thread - all essentially the same - man, how many times can people have the same discussions and arguments over and over? Ah, who am I kidding, I'm enjoying it... 😉 🙂
Mord
macrumors G4
kirk26 said:
why do you hold such a love for nvidia? they quite frankly suck on the mac side of things and currently on the pc side they are starting to aswel.
sorry for the double post but why do you like nvidia when the 5200 sucks and there fastest mac card is the geforce 4 ti which they do not even make anymore the radeon's are currently in the lead look at the cooling systems for the x800 and the 6800 then you can see how much better the ati card is because it still beats the nvidia in benchmarks
jocknerd said:
Do you understand what a build-to-order (BTO) machine is?
Do you also understand that the headline price is very important?
Guys,
Calm down. Someone is playing with you all by spreading this FUD. The updates will be good. Keep the faith.
Now who's doing this? Is Steve/Apple having fun at our expense or is ThinkSecret looking to drive web traffic up?
Calm down. Someone is playing with you all by spreading this FUD. The updates will be good. Keep the faith.
Now who's doing this? Is Steve/Apple having fun at our expense or is ThinkSecret looking to drive web traffic up?