PowerMac G5 Updates - March 23rd?

[invaLPsion]

I know ,I know Macs are the best etc, but Macs dont have 7.1 surround sound do they? I keep hearing everyone talk of 2.1 whats that about? video cards? well they are a generation behind. we have Pro's the otherside has been using XTs and are about to get the next generation? whats that about? Cpu's we still have 2 vs 1 and loose sometimes. I know we get a million excuses but the bottom line is Mac Hardware is allways 2nd class. Software is Great! why dont they just get rid of who has been running the hardware show and put the guy who is running the software show in charge! PROBLEM SOLVED!

Oh contraire. I happen to have a 7.1 sound card waiting to be plugged into my new rev B powermac. M-audio Revoltion 7.1. I can't wait to bathe in all the beautiful sounding glory.

 

[jsw]

Oh contraire. I happen to have a 7.1 sound card waiting to be plugged into my new rev B powermac. M-audio Revoltion 7.1. I can't wait to bathe in all the beautiful sounding glory.

Thank god! I guess it's at least defensible to own a Mac now, after all... I was starting to think that we were "AM" to a PC's "FM".

 

[Dont Hurt Me]

Oh contraire. I happen to have a 7.1 sound card waiting to be plugged into my new rev B powermac. M-audio Revoltion 7.1. I can't wait to bathe in all the beautiful sounding glory.

cool I didnt know we had the option.

 

[invaLPsion]

cool I didnt know we had the option.

Yep, check it out. It's the best sound card you can get for PC or Mac in my opinion.

 

[MacRAND]

The reason I don't focus on the past of computers in order to gain perspective on the present (with regards to value) is because using such a past as the computer industry has, as a viewpoint through which to perceive the present, is so distorting, that they may as well be entirely separate subjects, due to the incredible differences in proportion, and the fact that computers were in their very utmost infancy, back then. Compared to that time, sure, space is dirt cheap, but it's also used much quicker now. Those once expensive grains of special megabyte sand have been formed into the glass that is your modern, very high density hard drive, and the etching acuity is proportionate to the once stick (in the sand), now hand (in the glass), writer's dexterity (Mac OS Standard versus Extended). Note that, somewhere within that simile, there is some sense to be made...I'm not completely sure where. The history of paper, is also probably a good simile for computer storage space. The operating system, alone, takes up 1 gig on average (OS X). a videogame frequently uses 1-2gb. Many graphics apps range from 200-800mb total, including all the extra plugins and other files that may be required or useful. Those $15k storage devices from the past wouldn't even hold 1/3 of the Photoshop 7 application program file itself. If you want to use the past to view the present, in computer hardware, you absolutely have to multiply the numbers. Perhaps we don't know or appreciate how good we have it now, us persons who grew up with multiple gig hds and hundreds of mhz. However, if you get stuck in the past, then your perception of the present, in such a fast moving field, can make you a little too appreciative and a little less shrewd...in the computer industry. If you want good perspective from history, view civilian and country/worldwide, sociopolitical history. In the computer industry, history is not subject to repeating itself so closely, because the concepts are constantly growing, advancing and metamorphosing, but yet are, and may always be, comparatively simple and localized. Meanwhile, the human mind, though learning wonderful new things, is not advancing upon some of the absolute necessities, like good sense. But, of course, this is all opinion. Anyway, I hope you enjoy your camera. I'm only grazing the edge, money-wise, of the prosumer digicam field, and so I would prefer a Sony DSC-F717 5mp. Though, if I were interested in higher grade (and higher cost) prosumer or fully pro digital cameras, I'd probably buy Canon. They take very very, nice pictures. And, seeing as how I have no lenses or other similar investments, there would be nothing in the past to keep me from choosing what is absolutely my own preference, based upon quality (nothing mean intended, only something sharp and pointy). And, finally, to keep on topic, New G5s probably within a week, but they still won't be good enough for me, or my purposes.

My camcorder is a Canon.
Otherwise, I agree.
Thank you.​

 

[MacRAND]

"cool I didnt know we had the option."

Yes, We Know
What You Didnt Know
Dont Hurt Me

 

[Dont Hurt Me]

Yep, check it out. It's the best sound card you can get for PC or Mac in my opinion.

Rev B ,LOL had to read that twice. I was wondering why you were waiting

 

[Duff-Man]

Yep, check it out. It's the best sound card you can get for PC or Mac in my opinion.

Duff-Man says...Yes...M-Audio are excellent...great product line - they have sound cards and sound-midi input/output devices to suit every need and budget....and they have superb support too...oh yeah!

 

[mingrand]

Is it just me or is it a depressing time to be a Mac-head?

Hey, guys,

I just checked out the Apple Store website, and they've changed prices already. The Dual 2 GHz is now priced at.... $4099! The 1.6 GHz is $2499.... I think that someone goofed at Apple. I'm guessing the high end new G5, probably a 3 GHz, will be priced at $4099.

 

[MacinDoc]

Apple Store Prices

Hey, guys,

I just checked out the Apple Store website, and they've changed prices already. The Dual 2 GHz is now priced at.... $4099! The 1.6 GHz is $2499.... I think that someone goofed at Apple. I'm guessing the high end new G5, probably a 3 GHz, will be priced at $4099.

I believe those are the prices at the Canadian Apple Store. Speaking of which, the dual 1.8 GHz model is a comparative rip-off there, at $3499, which is the equivalent of $2624 U.S.

 

[Duff-Man]

I believe those are the prices at the Canadian Apple Store. Speaking of which, the dual 1.8 GHz model is a comparative rip-off there, at $3499, which is the equivalent of $2624 U.S.

Duff-Man says...Yes, those are definitely the prices at the Canadian Apple Store...nothing to see here folks...Apple could never get away with charging $4099us for a standard config desktop....oh yeah!

 

[djbahdow01]

Duff-Man says...Yes, those are definitely the prices at the Canadian Apple Store...nothing to see here folks...Apple could never get away with charging $4099us for a standard config desktop....oh yeah!

Got to love good ole Duff-Man. Wish he was more of a standard character on the Simpsons at least 2 or 3 times a season.

 

[form]

Duff-Man says...Yes, those are definitely the prices at the Canadian Apple Store...nothing to see here folks...Apple could never get away with charging $4099us for a standard config desktop....oh yeah!

*cough* But they already have, and DO..

 

[mingrand]

Duff-Man says...Yes, those are definitely the prices at the Canadian Apple Store...nothing to see here folks...Apple could never get away with charging $4099us for a standard config desktop....oh yeah!

Well, sorry about that, folks. It's just that I've been waiting to get a new G5 for a while now. I've been bitten badly with the iBook when the 12" came out two months after I bought mine, then my 1GHz 17" iMac wasn't top of the line anymore a few months after I got it. With all the rumors percolating about a new G5, there's no way I'm shelling out any more Apple money until the new one comes out. I guess I'm just as jumpy as the next guy.

 

[MacRAND]

Any PC with standard digital audio ports comparable to G5?

Thank god! I guess it's at least defensible to own a Mac now, after all... I was starting to think that we were "AM" to a PC's "FM".

Your G5 as standard equipment has both
"Optical digital audio in, optical digital audio out", right?

I just checked high-end Gateway and Dell computer specs trying to find comparable audio ports and could find no ports described as:
Optical digital audio in, optical digital audio out
although, speaker components sold on-site do have that capability
...just not any of the PC computers for sale - none that could take advantage of optical digital audio connections.
So, standard PC connections are Analog and only convert to Digital?

Does anyone know of any PC having standard digital audio ports comparable to the G5 that are?
Optical digital audio IN
Optical digital audio OUT

If so, does that make PC computers AM
to a G5 PowerMac's FM?... so to speak.
Apple is way ahead in Audio, right?

 

[wdlove]

Oh contraire. I happen to have a 7.1 sound card waiting to be plugged into my new rev B powermac. M-audio Revoltion 7.1. I can't wait to bathe in all the beautiful sounding glory.

Do you think that Apple might offer this sound card as an option on the Mac? This card would just enhance the sound of my current speakers?

 

[Duff-Man]

*cough* But they already have, and DO..

Duff-Man says....Really? Care to show me where you see a *standard config* *desktop/tower* G5 for $4099 US Dollars? I am not talking about servers here....oh yeah!

 

[NOV]

If so, does that make PC computers AM
to a G5 PowerMac's FM?... so to speak.
Apple is way ahead in Audio, right?

Well, the gap with the Windows world is not so big as it used to be, often resulting in hefty debates on forums.

Yet reality is that many musicians have made the transition to the Windows world over the past few years.

I personally always had more luck using Macs than Windows for music making and the fact that Logic Audio is not longer available for Windows (and a very attractive new Apple product strategy) will keep me for some time on the Mac-side.

BTW. I believe Creative Audigy has an interface with optical in and out (speaking about consumer range options, professionaly there is wealth of options available).

 

[Azmordean]

Virtually every decent PC sound card since the SB Live has had at least an S/PDIF digital out via coax. Optical is fairly uncommon because virtually all computer speaker systems I am aware of use coax. The differences between the two are virtually non-existant. There are PC Sound cards with optical options (like my Hercules Game Theatre XP, though I have yet to use the optical).

I wish apple had added a second analog out (front out, rear out) - it would have made the PMs built in audio solution much more robust. Many people like me have excellent regular speakers - speakers WITHOUT things like dolby digital decoders built in. My system is simply a 4.1 THX cert high powered system. This even has advantages, as in things like games, dolby digital is not an option (dolby digital sound only works when it is pre-encoded, as in a movie, not in real time like for games). And for movies, virtually all modern sound card/CPU pairings can decode dolby digital in software just fine. But no, Apple insists on using a single analog out, so when I do get my mac, I'll be stuck with stereo sound.

Your G5 as standard equipment has both
"Optical digital audio in, optical digital audio out", right?

I just checked high-end Gateway and Dell computer specs trying to find comparable audio ports and could find no ports described as:
Optical digital audio in, optical digital audio out
although, speaker components sold on-site do have that capability
...just not any of the PC computers for sale - none that could take advantage of optical digital audio connections.
So, standard PC connections are Analog and only convert to Digital?

Does anyone know of any PC having standard digital audio ports comparable to the G5 that are?
Optical digital audio IN
Optical digital audio OUT

If so, does that make PC computers AM
to a G5 PowerMac's FM?... so to speak.
Apple is way ahead in Audio, right?

 

[GALoucas]

I know... for a FACT... the dual 2.6Ghz is due within the next two weeks

A close friend has been negotiating with apple and has been allowed pre-order the new machines...

you heard it here first

 

[invaLPsion]

Do you think that Apple might offer this sound card as an option on the Mac? This card would just enhance the sound of my current speakers?

You bet it would! The powermacs right now only have 16 bit 48KHz audio. THe Revolution boasts 24 bit 192KHz audio. Not only that, but it the card also brings a host of different formats to use, since the macintosh does not currently support Dolby Digital. The Revolution comes with SRS TruSurround XT and SRS Circle Surround II. The five other formats it carries are not operable with macs. The card naturally supports 7.1, 6.1, 5.1, 4.1, 2.1, and 2.0

So with this card, get out there and enjoy surround sound and increased sound clarity on your mac!

 

[invaLPsion]

A close friend has been negotiating with apple and has been allowed pre-order the new machines...

you heard it here first

Thanks for getting us back on topic!

And with some juicy information as well!

Do you have any other information about the updates?

 

[mattmack]

A close friend has been negotiating with apple and has been allowed pre-order the new machines...

you heard it here first

Where can i start negotiating

 

[invaLPsion]

A close friend has been negotiating with apple and has been allowed pre-order the new machines...

you heard it here first

What do you mean exactly? Can you tell us a bit more about how he found out this information?

Or anything more at all?

 

[MacRAND]

Digital Audio "optional" on a PC - is standard on Mac G5

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BTW. I believe Creative Audigy has an interface with optical in and out.

Sure, a $249 PC external add-on...
Audigy 2 ZS External I/O Hub Front and Rear Panel Connectors
Headphone Out (1/4” Stereo Jack)
Line In 1 (1/4” Stereo Jack , shared with Microphone In with Gain Control)
Line In 2 (1/4” Stereo Jack)
Line In 3 (2x RCA Jack)
Optical SPDIF In/Out
Coaxial SPDIF In/Out
Digital Out for 5.1 support (6-channel SPDIF Output to Creative digital speakers)

but
What PC is manufactured with a standard built-in,
ready to use "optical audio IN / OUT" connection?

No PC, just the Mac G5. Right?

Apple and the Mac G5 are unsurpassed in audio, correct?
(Logic Express 6, Soundtrack, GarageBand, iTunes...)