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PowerMac G5 Updates - March 23rd?

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numediaman said:
These are good points. Part of the problem lies, I believe, in the people chosen to sell computers to consumers.

I remember being offered a job to sell computers at a small retail store back in the early-mid eighties. They were looking for people who could not only sell, but could explain the benefits of computer ownership.

Think about the Dell commercials: their big line is "tell us what you want to do". This is silly: most people want e-mail and maybe Internet surfing.

That's the opposite way a computer should be sold. Sure a salesperson should find out what a person wants to do with the computer -- but when the answer is a shrug they need to demonstrate the "possibilities" of the computer. For example, I showed someone iChat and they thought it was the greatest thing ever invented (even though chat software is not really a new thing). The whole idea of integrating iChat with iSight got them very excited. GarageBand then blew them away.

The fact that I could effectively demo the software and hardware together made the difference -- and sold the Mac.
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Umm, I just ordered my G5 1.6 desktop and a 17'' Apple display. :) :)
 
Steve Jobs is very innovative, but that is where it stops . He already drove Apple into the ground once because of his lack of marketing skills. He has brought Apple back from the dead by charging a lot for the new products. His margins are very high. We, the Mac faithful, are paying the price. Most of the time he uses older technology and charges for current. When I purchased my G4, it had standard memory and an ATA 66 drive. The PC market was DDR memory and ATA 100. Now he sells the 4X dvd-rw and the PC is 8X. As the cost of these new technologies come down, you start seeing them in the Mac. I am on the School Board, so I qualify for an education discount. On the dual 1.8, this comes to about 10%. Check out Dell and Gateways education discount!

Look at Apple's customer service call center. The hours were drastically cut back years ago to save money, making it harder to contact them. Now that Apple is debt free, will Steve start being more customer friendly? How will Steve get new switchers? Were the old switchers actually switchers or just Mac people who left and came back? Will he push us away again with his destructive policies? There is a very loyal core of Apple customers, who by spending their hard earned dollars have brought Apple back from extinction. It woul be nice to see some sort of reward for us.

Don't get me wrong, I am an Apple supporter. Remember when Apple ruled the PC world, and an Apple II cost over 5,000 dollars? How much was an IBM? The Mac OS was far superior and more stable to the early Windows versions. The latest version of Windows is very stable and will get even better. I would hate to see the price of the new Power Macs start to chase customers away again!
 
Macster389 said:
Steve Jobs is very innovative, but that is where it stops . He already drove Apple into the ground once because of his lack of marketing skills.
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I don't know about that I think it might be the other way around. He is very good marketer to a general consumer, but at the cost to the pro line. He is innovative again to a entry level consumer market. It is consistently the pro line that suffers at the expense of the consumers. I think they made a great leap forward with the G5, but people are just waiting for the rev B's to come out. They will come out and be very competetive. The problem is that Apple can't just adopt new techs as they come out. They do a lot of testing to make sure you get a quality machine.
The other problem is that intel can churn out new chips with the realization that there will be a market for them (no delay from release to market) while Apple is the only major buyer of the Power PC 970 line so IBM can't overproduce if Apple can't buy all the chips they make (delay from release to market)
 
neonart said:
I guess.

Let's just try another date? How about next tuesday? Anyone have any info that can give next week some substance?
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Nah, no substance for next week. How about NAB. That's when i think updates will be... :rolleyes:
 
Everyone is now hopin that there are new PowerMacs and NAB, I thought the main rumor for this before would be the so called iBox, connecting the digital world, you know something like that.
 
can we PLEASE close this thread!!!!

For the love of God before it's April 23, or June 23rd!!!
 
I wish

I do wish they would hurry up and release them ,my iBook is all by it's self

question from newbie , why is it always a tuesday for a release??

ta
tom





Have you seen my apple advert ? i made it on my little iBook G3 apple ad right click save that baby as
 
Macster389 said:
Steve Jobs is very innovative, but that is where it stops . He already drove Apple into the ground once because of his lack of marketing skills. He has brought Apple back from the dead by charging a lot for the new products. His margins are very high. We, the Mac faithful, are paying the price. Most of the time he uses older technology and charges for current. When I purchased my G4, it had standard memory and an ATA 66 drive. The PC market was DDR memory and ATA 100. Now he sells the 4X dvd-rw and the PC is 8X. As the cost of these new technologies come down, you start seeing them in the Mac. I am on the School Board, so I qualify for an education discount. On the dual 1.8, this comes to about 10%. Check out Dell and Gateways education discount!

Look at Apple's customer service call center. The hours were drastically cut back years ago to save money, making it harder to contact them. Now that Apple is debt free, will Steve start being more customer friendly? How will Steve get new switchers? Were the old switchers actually switchers or just Mac people who left and came back? Will he push us away again with his destructive policies? There is a very loyal core of Apple customers, who by spending their hard earned dollars have brought Apple back from extinction. It woul be nice to see some sort of reward for us.

Don't get me wrong, I am an Apple supporter. Remember when Apple ruled the PC world, and an Apple II cost over 5,000 dollars? How much was an IBM? The Mac OS was far superior and more stable to the early Windows versions. The latest version of Windows is very stable and will get even better. I would hate to see the price of the new Power Macs start to chase customers away again!
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Microsoft's new OS won't be ready until late 2006 or later, and probably still be full of holes. I agree XP is stable, but it's hard to use.
 
From AppleInsider:

Exclusive: Apple briefs top resellers on pro product status

During a Web Cast to Apple Specialists today, the company's Specialist Channel Director, Jeff Hansen, confirmed that the dual 2.0 Ghz X Serves have begun shipping to Virginia Tech to fulfill orders for the university's super computer. AppleInsider also received independent corroboration that select dual Xserve G5 orders had begun shipping out of the company's Sacramento plant, earlier this morning.

In addition to updating resellers on the status Xserve G5 shipments, Hansen reportedly provided hints that the company would be 'refreshing' many of its professional products during its World Wide Developers conference, set to take place in San Francisco during the final week of June.
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"Refreshing many of its professional products during its World Wide Developers conference" -- does this mean Apple will not have any hardware introductions (other than the XServe) during the entire first half of the year? Who should get fired for this? (Or is he only talking about software products? I hope its the latter.)
 
Macster389 said:
Steve Jobs is very innovative, but that is where it stops . He already drove Apple into the ground once because of his lack of marketing skills.
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I don't know where you're getting your information from but from what I remember, Jobs was FORCED OUT of Apple in 1985 by John Scully. From there, Jobs founded the company NeXT; off of which OS X was based. So in this "fall" of Apple, Jobs wasn't even near the company.

For someone who lacks marketing skills, the iPod seems to be quite a success. I wonder what he could get done if he HAD marketing skills...
 
If NAB comes and goes with no G5 updates then I am prepared to switch to a PC. There is no way that I am waiting until WWDC because I am tired of waiting and I have many previously purchased accessories waiting to be plugged into a desktop computer.

I'm tired of this waiting, Apple. You care more about big buyers than the average consumer.
 
invaLPsion said:
If NAB comes and goes with no G5 updates then I am prepared to switch to a PC. There is no way that I am waiting until WWDC because I am tired of waiting and I have many previously purchased accessories waiting to be plugged into a desktop computer.

I'm tired of this waiting, Apple. You care more about big buyers than the average consumer.
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Are you referring to PMs? Surely the average consumer is more interested in G5s in new iMacs.... :confused:
 
invaLPsion said:
If NAB comes and goes with no G5 updates then I am prepared to switch to a PC. There is no way that I am waiting until WWDC because I am tired of waiting and I have many previously purchased accessories waiting to be plugged into a desktop computer.

I'm tired of this waiting, Apple. You care more about big buyers than the average consumer.
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They don't seem to care about big buyers either. I'm prepared to get a g5, 23" HD, as well as ibook or powerbook, and I refuse to pay the same price for old technology. Updates are long overdue, and explanation is non-existent. I will kill Apple if I lose my edu discount and then 2 weeks later they release all new technology that should have come out in March when I would have saved hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
 
Bhennies said:
They don't seem to care about big buyers either..
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The point I am trying to make is that nowadays places like Virginia Tech and other "big buyers" like the government get the first bite out of the Apple, while average consumers are forced to wait 3-5 months longer. I MEAN COME ON APPLE. WHAT KIND OF COMPANY ARE YOU? :mad:
 
invaLPsion said:
The point I am trying to make is that nowadays places like Virginia Tech and other "big buyers" like the government get the first bite out of the Apple, while average consumers are forced to wait 3-5 months longer. I MEAN COME ON APPLE. WHAT KIND OF COMPANY ARE YOU? :mad:
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Oh...well...I'm still pissed!
 
Bhennies said:
They don't seem to care about big buyers either. I'm prepared to get a g5, 23" HD, as well as ibook or powerbook, and I refuse to pay the same price for old technology. Updates are long overdue, and explanation is non-existent. I will kill Apple if I lose my edu discount and then 2 weeks later they release all new technology that should have come out in March when I would have saved hundreds and hundreds of dollars.
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Its sad that while you're in school you can't drop $5000 on new computers without complaining. Buy it and then sell it. Obviously money means nothing and losing $500-800 in depreciation wouldn't be a big deal. Sheesh.
 
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