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PR Experts: iPhone 4 Hardware Recall is "Inevitable"
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Still kind of a recall, just curious why that isn't the traditional sense recall?
I'd be very happy with that though, even though I flawless installed some nice protective skins on my phone.
Oh well. lol
Thats like saying since only 30 people died in Toyota cars the rest of them are perfectly fine and there is no need for a recall.
Obviously it's not as serious as something that can kill you, but the point is its a design flaw that is on all devices.
My mom just called me (I'm 35) and just told me they are having something on the local news about the Iphone now. Apple seriously can't go on like this with the phone, they have to recall this thing.
Even if it's like Mark said with a clear coating.
Even if it's like Mark said with a clear coating.
You have no data. "The vast majority?" The vast majority might not be AWARE of any issue - doesn't mean they don't have it. And if there's a recall - it's going to be a voluntary one when/if there's any change made. That doesn't mean EVERYONE will return it. Some people will think their's is just fine
PS - I don't know what YOU think is a recall - but what you described IS a recall. They will change production (if needed) and then people will be able to swap theirs out. It's not like everyone is going to send their phone in and wait for a new one.
So a) New production model (sprayed, whatever) and swap outs
or b) (if possible) people will bring their phones into the Apple Store to be "treated" - something more of a nightmare as lines and wait times will be insane.
Actually - it'll be a pain either way
With a case the issue handles fine. People would argue that's not the point because it should work. What would be good as for a fix Is an option in settings that would amp up the antenna power, this might be a good thing but is at the coast of battery life. Personaly I think apple should do something than just saying that we should hold it different and that the only thing they did wrong was how they calculated the signal (witch makes the problem more apparent). Also this combined with aat screwing up the network making the speeds realy slow. Att says it only affects 2% of there customers but there probably lying. Att says there working on it also apple says there working on it but we will wait and see this is just a big mess. But I still love my iPhone 4. But there is no way they will issue a recall, it's too expensive and not verry practical for them or us.
A recall would likely mean that people in other countries still waiting for the launch of the iPhone 4 will have to wait even longer, which is not going to be pleasant for Apple. A full blown recall is unlikely, but Apple has to do something and do it fast. This is becoming a PR disaster for a company that prides itself on making premium products. And they cannot afford to have this hanging over their heads as they look to launch new iPod Touches in the Fall, new iPads next year, and iPhone 5 next summer. They cannot let one faulty product ruin their reputation moving forward.
WHen I got my new car it had a leak in the gas tank .. they told me to just put some duct tape on it and it will still drive just fine.
They can't just increase the power. You'd probably get an RF burn or fry your brain.I have seen products with coating on them. Over time they look like crap and it start coming off or gets dirty looking. Lets hope IF they do a recall they can also address the prox sensor. I have been having problems with both. I wonder how many people haven't reported an issue but have one, sitting back and just waiting for a fix? I'm thinking this doesn't do any good, of course I am betting a call to Apple would get you a "return the phone" answer which isn't an option either. I am sure the replacement would do the same.
I'm waiting for 2 cases I bought off eBay to arrive, that will fix one of the iPhones problem at least for me. I can't see anyone using the phone without a case. I am so afraid I am going to drop it. It seems so fragile. It is much smaller than a 3G that was in a case that I was used to carrying. Another problem I have experienced 3 times now, is the phone scooting off the surface I placed it on. This thing is so smooth on the back I think it hovers like a hockey puck on an air hockey table....another issue that a case will solve. Now the prox sensor.....
It would have to involve you going into an Apple Store and swapping your current iPhone with one that has had the issue resolved. Can't see a recall working any other way.
recalls aren't done like that. If it gets recalled - they first have to fix the issue. Then they will do in store exchanges or if you're not near a store - you'll need to send it back and you'll get a replacement (much like how they do it now)
Is it just me or is this starting to sound like the Toyota fiasco, although probably not as dangerous (well as long as there are no rioting)? They denied the existence of the problem 'till the end.
Is there a setting to block posts by users who created their accounts in July 2010?
Why, so blindly faithful users who created their accounts in 2002 don't have to be exposed to news stories that hit the nail on the head? Head in the sand much? Guess what, Apple's post-2002 customers far outnumber their pre-2002 customers, so get used to to reading things you may not like from people newer to Apple than you.
I'm pretty content with my phone... if there was a recall (which I doubt there will be) I wouldn't want to give it up.
I don't really think Apple is going to suffer any long term effects here. They have already sold 2 million freaking phones in a few weeks, and they haven't even rolled out to a lot of the other countries yet. By the time they were to recall and correct all these millions of phones it will be time for iPhone 5 (or whatever they are going to call it).
I'm more than happy with my 4, I'll stick it out until the 5 shows up.
I don't really think Apple is going to suffer any long term effects here. They have already sold 2 million freaking phones in a few weeks, and they haven't even rolled out to a lot of the other countries yet. By the time they were to recall and correct all these millions of phones it will be time for iPhone 5 (or whatever they are going to call it).
I'm more than happy with my 4, I'll stick it out until the 5 shows up.
...And which phone do they recommend and which phone do they not recommend?
Look, we all know that the iPhone has fantastic features, but the antenna issue is a serious flaw.
Every time I see someone mention that mythical "2 million phones sold so far" figure or something close to it, I simply don't believe it at all.
I do not believe Apple even sold 1.7 million so far, to be honest. There's been no actual accounting proof of such a thing, only Apple's claims of such numbers of product being sold.
I know those factories over in China or wherever can crank out a lot of product but, think of it this way:
If they've sold 2 million phones, give or take a few hundred thousand, that would mean they've actually manufactured several million more to account for the ones used for return replacements, etc. 3 million iPhone 4's made in a few weeks time?
The prototype was lost in April, around the first week or so, but it didn't "appear" on Gizmodo's site till around the 19th. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a fully finished product at that time, it could have been, hard to locate any evidence of it at this point.
Even on a fully automated assembly process, say 20,000 phones a day manufactured (if that's possible, of course), that's 600,000 a month at best - that would mean the final finished products have been manufactured for what, 5 months or longer?
The numbers - even the speculation of numbers like this - simply don't add up.
Ain't no factory on the planet going to be able to crank out more than 20,000 phones a day, and that's being excessively nice in the estimate as well. In a 24 hour period I simply cannot fathom more than that being made, and substantially less is probably more accurate.
I simply don't believe Apple has been making them for that long as finished final assembly products, nor do I believe they've sold even one half of what they're claiming, I really seriously don't.
I can't imagine anyone that really thinks about it would come to some other conclusion, either.
3+ million phones manufactured in under 3 months? Nah... I don't believe it.
I do not believe Apple even sold 1.7 million so far, to be honest. There's been no actual accounting proof of such a thing, only Apple's claims of such numbers of product being sold.
I know those factories over in China or wherever can crank out a lot of product but, think of it this way:
If they've sold 2 million phones, give or take a few hundred thousand, that would mean they've actually manufactured several million more to account for the ones used for return replacements, etc. 3 million iPhone 4's made in a few weeks time?
The prototype was lost in April, around the first week or so, but it didn't "appear" on Gizmodo's site till around the 19th. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a fully finished product at that time, it could have been, hard to locate any evidence of it at this point.
Even on a fully automated assembly process, say 20,000 phones a day manufactured (if that's possible, of course), that's 600,000 a month at best - that would mean the final finished products have been manufactured for what, 5 months or longer?
The numbers - even the speculation of numbers like this - simply don't add up.
Ain't no factory on the planet going to be able to crank out more than 20,000 phones a day, and that's being excessively nice in the estimate as well. In a 24 hour period I simply cannot fathom more than that being made, and substantially less is probably more accurate.
I simply don't believe Apple has been making them for that long as finished final assembly products, nor do I believe they've sold even one half of what they're claiming, I really seriously don't.
I can't imagine anyone that really thinks about it would come to some other conclusion, either.
3+ million phones manufactured in under 3 months? Nah... I don't believe it.
20,000 a day is child's play for those factories. I've seen them. I've worked in manufacturing in China - it's amazing.
Perhaps get the facts straight before claiming someone else lied?
Prototype was lost on March 18