read it again i am saying there is an issues and that people that keep saying there isn't are idiots.
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PR Experts Suggest iPhone 4 Recall 'Inevitable' as Antenna Issue Snowballs
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read it again i am saying there is an issues and that people that keep saying there isn't are idiots.
But Apple is trying to do the re-call, only they are using iPhones 4 to do so and currently they have no signal.
Hard to say what will happen now with so many conflicting reports from users. Maybe some percentage of the phones are just bad. I think it has a lot to do with signal strength in the user's area too. We'll have to see. I doubt there will be a recall though.
Mine is the same.My phone does drop two bars when I place my finger over the contact, but this has not resulted in any issues for me. I haven't dropped calls or lost data speeds.
I love the new iPhone 4, but there is a serious signal loss issue. A software update is not going to solve the problem at all. Yes there is probably a software bug that is causing the bars to be displayed incorrectly however I can cause a call to fail at any time just by the way I hold it.
The thing is, as soon as I put a bumper on the phone it works perfect and has no problems. I'm very satisfied with the phone when a bumper is included.
The right thing for Apple to do is to give away free bumpers with every iPhone 4 purchase. There is no way those bumpers cost more then a few dollars to manufacture.
The bigger problem though is that by giving away bumpers it kills the very lucrative 3rd party case business and also kills the iPhone dock which does not work with the bumper.
The thing is, as soon as I put a bumper on the phone it works perfect and has no problems. I'm very satisfied with the phone when a bumper is included.
The right thing for Apple to do is to give away free bumpers with every iPhone 4 purchase. There is no way those bumpers cost more then a few dollars to manufacture.
The bigger problem though is that by giving away bumpers it kills the very lucrative 3rd party case business and also kills the iPhone dock which does not work with the bumper.
great now i look and feel stupid, but my point stants... PROVE IT IF YOU DONT HAVE A PROBLEM!!!
Definitely a PR disaster, whether a problem exists or not. Half the headlines on Finance Yahoo are about this. They better react, and fast...
Another post by someone who doesn't even own the damm phone.
Come on dude, bully for you that your an apple supporter, so are most of us!
Getting a new iphone for YOU is doable, well good luck man, hope you don't have signal issues cuZ youll be back screaming like the rest of us!
have a great day!
How are they going to fix a hardware problem like this in software. Oh yea thats right, change the "bars" display. *rolls eyes*
You DO know why right? APple should allow users to move the antenna around...darwin would take care of the rest....
The problem is that a lot of the people whining about this don't have an iPhone 4 and never seem to consider returning it if they do. My conclusion is that 99% of these people are haters or plants.
If you have signal issues Apple has already issued a recall, return the phone for a full refund and move on with your life.
Apple won't recall the iPhone; they'll just make a discrete cosmetic change.
They never made a recall when the 20" iMacs of the previous generation had awful backlight problems. Instead, they just deleted and locked threads, then made the changes after an extended period of time.
As Ferris Bueller would say, these guys are so tight that if you stuck a lump of coal up their butt, they'd shape it into a diamond. An "iDiamond" no doubt.
They never made a recall when the 20" iMacs of the previous generation had awful backlight problems. Instead, they just deleted and locked threads, then made the changes after an extended period of time.
As Ferris Bueller would say, these guys are so tight that if you stuck a lump of coal up their butt, they'd shape it into a diamond. An "iDiamond" no doubt.
dyslexic.
As you could tell from a few grammatical errors in my previous post.
that does not make me an IDIOT. makes me SPECIAL
The guy i was commenting about's views are idiotic
The solution is a case. To not have this phone in a case is plain retarded, even if the antenna issue didn't exist.
Is there some particular reason why you keep repeating yourself in post after post? Are you so insecure in your reasoning that you feel you have to repeat often and loudly to try and drown out anyone who disagrees with you?
3 points:
1) there will not be a recall. It's not a safety issue, and a huge number of buyers are happy with their purchase.
2) I'm tired of the "it doesn't work as a phone" comments. Stop trolling. Yes, there is a real issue, and it's not software-based. But it does work as a phone under any of the following situations: you don't hold it that way (and many people don't, without any conscious effort); you use a case (and honestly, probably 3/4 of iPhone 3G/3GS that I see have cases anyway); you're in a high coverage area.
3) in my 7 years on this forum, I've never seen people behave as badly as with this issue. The venom and personal attacks are disgusting and by forum rules should have about half the posters in this thread banned by now. People, it's a phone. How about a rational discussion without the flaming?
1) there will not be a recall. It's not a safety issue, and a huge number of buyers are happy with their purchase.
2) I'm tired of the "it doesn't work as a phone" comments. Stop trolling. Yes, there is a real issue, and it's not software-based. But it does work as a phone under any of the following situations: you don't hold it that way (and many people don't, without any conscious effort); you use a case (and honestly, probably 3/4 of iPhone 3G/3GS that I see have cases anyway); you're in a high coverage area.
3) in my 7 years on this forum, I've never seen people behave as badly as with this issue. The venom and personal attacks are disgusting and by forum rules should have about half the posters in this thread banned by now. People, it's a phone. How about a rational discussion without the flaming?
This is a valid point. I understand that people want to keep the phone and hope Apple does something - but if it is a hardware fix that is needed - it won't happen anytime soon.
Did they know beforehand?
I just wonder if Apple knew of the issues beforehand ... I mean, the bumpers came out simultaneously. When have they released something that specific (covers the antenna only, really) ever? Has apple ever even made an iPhone case of any sort???
That said, I'm still upgrading ... I mean, I've used an iPhone since Day 1 and it's been in a case since there was one to buy. I can't imagine not using a case with an iPhone, especially the iPhone 4 which has even more glass. I've iDropKick'd (the process of dropping and simultaneously kicking one's iPhone while walking) on multiple occasions and my Slider hardshell case has protected it gloriously.
Now I'm concerned that the 3 week wait time for an iPhone 4 will be somehow extended to who-knows-when because of the Consumer Reports review. We will see ....
I just wonder if Apple knew of the issues beforehand ... I mean, the bumpers came out simultaneously. When have they released something that specific (covers the antenna only, really) ever? Has apple ever even made an iPhone case of any sort???
That said, I'm still upgrading ... I mean, I've used an iPhone since Day 1 and it's been in a case since there was one to buy. I can't imagine not using a case with an iPhone, especially the iPhone 4 which has even more glass. I've iDropKick'd (the process of dropping and simultaneously kicking one's iPhone while walking) on multiple occasions and my Slider hardshell case has protected it gloriously.
Now I'm concerned that the 3 week wait time for an iPhone 4 will be somehow extended to who-knows-when because of the Consumer Reports review. We will see ....
I still think this has something to do with tower freq switching.
When the signal is full strength at my house or my office I can't get the signal to drop...even if I put my hands on it exactly like all the videos.
However, if I am at the gym with a full signal, and I put my hands on the phone exactly like all the videos, the signal drops down.
The only possible difference could be the freq my phone is currently connecting to the tower on.
The problem is, we can no longer see what band we are on.
850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
What hacks me off, is no body is talking about how this phone gets a signal in places a 3GS never did, or in my case...not a single dropped call.
When the signal is full strength at my house or my office I can't get the signal to drop...even if I put my hands on it exactly like all the videos.
However, if I am at the gym with a full signal, and I put my hands on the phone exactly like all the videos, the signal drops down.
The only possible difference could be the freq my phone is currently connecting to the tower on.
The problem is, we can no longer see what band we are on.
850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
What hacks me off, is no body is talking about how this phone gets a signal in places a 3GS never did, or in my case...not a single dropped call.
I couldn't reproduce the reception problem at all yesterday. Had my iPhone 4 for 3 weeks and nary a problem.
Besides it's a freaking phone not a heart pacer.
Besides it's a freaking phone not a heart pacer.
I quoted Gazzmolly not you . . Genius.
From my post:
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Originally Posted by gazzzmoly
YOUR AN IDIOT
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"This is a non-issue. You're holding it wrong!"
I couldn't believe that even Steve Jobs could be so arrogant as to dismiss, out of hand as it were, the legitimate complaints about the iPhone signal attenuation problem.
They handled this badly, however this is vintage Apple customer relations.
Send back your iPhones by the millions and let Steve show you how to hold 'em right.
I couldn't believe that even Steve Jobs could be so arrogant as to dismiss, out of hand as it were, the legitimate complaints about the iPhone signal attenuation problem.
They handled this badly, however this is vintage Apple customer relations.
Send back your iPhones by the millions and let Steve show you how to hold 'em right.