I wonder why Apple doesn't bring this protocol to the iPhone and Mac, seriously. The absolute worst that could happen is they would... sell more AirPod Pros? If it's using 5GHz they can probably extend the existing WiFi chipset to do it.
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Pre-Ordering the Apple Vision Pro? Get AirPods Pro 2 With USB-C for $189 to Add Lossless Audio
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I’m confused about that scanning the room/audio raytracing feature. The marketing says it’s to optimize the audio for the space but I don’t know what that means when I presume the little speakers are only shooting sound down into your ear, not filling the room and bouncing sound off the walls and furniture like a HomePod would.
Whatever the advantage is, I also wonder if it will still be communicated to the AirPods when using them instead of the VP built-in speakers. Or maybe using headphones will make that advantage irrelevant.
And yet according to a National Academy of Sciences paper from 2014, trained orchestral violinists cannot identify sound from a Stradivarius or a modern violin with any frequency greater than chance.
AirPods Pro need a better driver. Lossless would be nice. aptX support would be good as well. But that bio-cellulose (paper) driver just isn’t up to snuff. Drivers for IEM style phones are cheap. Apple could be using much nicer ones that would produce a better sound profile. The software is great but the drivers just aren’t capable of delivering audiophile quality sound.
Right. So it probably isn’t lossless and it does still suffer from latency issues.
Wireless lossless is the holy grail for audiophiles. If Apple had actually cracked it that would be huge news in the segment. But clearly they haven’t.
It would be VERY weird if the headset wasn’t capable of delivering the same level of audio quality as a pair of AirPods Pro. The reporting has to be wrong.
Headphones are only for People who don’t want to disturb others. I live alone so I’ve never used them with my quest. The speaksers on the device probably deliver spatial audio better anyways.
Apple marketing is predicated on the fact that people don’t know (or generally care) what lossless actually means.
No. That isn’t how the scan worked. It wasn’t to create surround sound. It was to compensate for the acoustic specifics of your room. Some rooms are sonically bright. Some sonically muffled. Some speaker placements are less than optimal. The scan “tuned” the HomePod to your specific room and speaker placement.
Well that isn’t true at all. Headphones can be and in fact are an end unto themselves. They’re not just about isolating you. If they were there’d be no such thing as open back headphones. In fact, headphones are audio tools just like speakers. They can deliver sound that’s as good or in many cases better than full sized speakers can. There’s a reason most popular music is mixed and mastered in headphones and then checked on studio monitors. Quality headphones are also a reasonable compromise when you can’t afford high end speakers.
I am kind of confused. So I own the Apple Airpods Pro 2 without USB-C. Is the only difference that I am not going to get lossless audio? Will my Airpods Pro 2 still work without any other issues?
Give me an example where you can clearly hear the difference. I'd love to listen to it!
It might not be a problem of latency so much as of distance. The AirPods & AVP combination mean the devices are less than a feet apart an can use higher and wider frequencies / bandwidth for a stable, high data throughput.
If you try with a phone or a computer you might be roaming around a room or an apartment and would be better served by a lower frequency, on which the lossless proposition or data throughput might just not be possible.
That's a start. Next time, try "I may not be able to hear it but I fully acknowledge that there are plenty of people on this planet that can."
Or, just keep being ignorant. Your call.
Yeah I’m curious for why the transmitting device has to have H2. Maybe there’s some sort of weird handshake. Would reckon VP exclusivity is based on range.
That is the most laughable comparison I've ever heard and it clearly shows you have zero idea of how sound and instruments actually work.
Almost nobody can tell a Strad apart from a finely hand-crafted modern instrument because they both sound as good as it's possible for an instrument to sound. When two instruments are pushing the bleeding edge of their craft, it doesn't matter how old they are or aren't. They will both have the same tonal characteristics. Period. Modern instruments can and do sound just as good as Strads.
And you can guarantee the comparison was not Strad vs Amazon Basics.
Further more, that ridiculous comparison has absolutely nothing to do with the perception of audio information coming out of a speaker.
I guarantee if you were to take those same people, play them a 44.1khz CD-quality recording vs a 96k recording through a set of middle-of-the-road monitors, not a single one wouldn't be able to immediately tell you that the 96k recording has way bigger soundstage, more dynamic range, and far more detail.
In fact, I've tested it with many non-musical people and the vast majority of them were shocked by how obvious the difference was.
44.1k CD audio sounds like it's had a chainlink fence put over the treble bands, and compressed audio is straight-up warbly garbage.
If you can't hear it, it's your own damn fault for not seeking it out and continuously listening to compressed trashed over bluetooth on 5-cent drivers.
So quit trying to shove the rest of us out of consideration.
So I suggest you quit parading ignorance and pretending like nobody else hears better than you, because we do, and we also know how music and sound work better than you.
Gosh I can't believe I took the time to write this out but the sheer cluelessness when it comes to sound and music is just astonishing.
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They should be free after dropping $3,499 for the Vision Pro. Unnecessary cash grab.
To what end? More anecdote? Regardless of what you hear you’ll claim there’s no difference so we can just cut to the chase. Resolution is important. Most people don’t give two poops about it, but it is. Whether or not you personally can hear a difference isn’t really a relevant data point. Audio perception is highly subjective.
On a halfway decent set of speakers, the difference is surprisingly obvious.
96k vs AAC is like drinking pure spring water vs city tap with old pipes.
Even if Apple claims you have immersive audio there is no way your body can even feel bass in a room with AVP w/ AirPods Pros. Their audio drivers are very small/light not anything special compared to even cheap full size over-ears headphones. They sound acceptable for what they are, but heck a cheap wired gamers headphone like the wired LogicTech Pro X for $129 makes them sound bad for the money. That even is bundled with a USB external DAC to 3.5MM jack.
