Pre-Orders for iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Top 100,000 in South Korea, Outpace Samsung Galaxy Note 4 [Updated]

[cocky jeremy]

Samsung capped preorder numbers at 30,000 and sold out on the first day. I'm sure they're real upset about that.

They're more than upset. They're in panic mode. They're losing ground to just about everyone now. People are finally realizing Samsung phones are junk. Even if you like Android, there's no reason to buy Samsung garbage.

 

[fredaroony]

They're more than upset. They're in panic mode. They're losing ground to just about everyone now. People are finally realizing Samsung phones are junk. Even if you like Android, there's no reason to buy Samsung garbage.

Very articulate...interesting comment since they have 24.9% of the worldwide smartphone market in Q2 of this year and had 32.2% last year.

While it has decreased they are still the number one by a large margin. Perhaps you could turn them around with your amazing business acumen.

 

[Zwhaler]

Meh, I don't understand why average phone buyers care about these numbers if you already own one device or the other, I think the Note 4 is better and this doesn't change that ...

 

[wikiverse]

They're more than upset. They're in panic mode. They're losing ground to just about everyone now. People are finally realizing Samsung phones are junk. Even if you like Android, there's no reason to buy Samsung garbage.

Have you been to Korea? iPhones are about as common as hens teeth. Everyone has Samsung or LG phones.

No one is panicking. It's like saying Kakao Talk is panicking because people can use iMessage. Or Naver is panicking because apples default search is google and their default maps are apple maps.

You really need to learn a bit more about which companies dominate the market in SK and why.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Very articulate...interesting comment since they have 24.9% of the worldwide smartphone market in Q2 of this year and had 32.2% last year.

While it has decreased they are still the number one by a large margin. Perhaps you could turn them around with your amazing business acumen.

Their profits are plummeting and they've lost every advantage they had. Even what you posted is a cause for them to panic. That's a massive drop in one year.

 

[fredaroony]

Their profits are plummeting and they've lost every advantage they had. Even what you posted is a cause for them to panic. That's a massive drop in one year.

Another post where you are showing your knowledge on the subject...why don't you look at Apple's, their closest competitor, numbers during the same period. http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-market-share.jsp

I'm sure you will come back with something even less informed in your next post.

 

[TomTomHatesCats]

They're more than upset. They're in panic mode. They're losing ground to just about everyone now. People are finally realizing Samsung phones are junk. Even if you like Android, there's no reason to buy Samsung garbage.

I'm not a fan of Samsung in general, but this view has always seemed pretty extreme to me. A lot of people swear by the Note, and not just for its size. It's not for me, but people like what they like, and lots of people happen to like Samsung.

I'm pretty happy that Samsung contributed to, if not led the charge, on producing larger displays on phones. We now have a larger iPhone because of it.

 

[noodlemanc]

That's all true except for the "Google is great" part. I'm not sure they're so great. What have they ever really done except create a usable search engine and sell mountainloads of data to intelligence agencies and corporate interests? Driverless cars? Google glass?

*They created hands-down the best search engine in the world that has made the Internet accessible for billions of people.

*They've created probably the most popular email service in the world.

*They've created the most popular mobile OS system in the world.

*They've created an excellent maps service that has satellite photography coverage of almost all populated parts of the world.

*Created one of the best online advertising platforms in the world that helps in a big way to finance millions of websites and Internet-based businesses.

*Although Google didn't create YouTube they've financed for a long time while it was unprofitable and kept it alive as the world's most popular platform for viewing videos.

What Google has done is pretty impressive.

 

[gnasher729]

I have no love for Samsung, but this report is misleading. Those preorder totals include both the 4.7 and 5.5 inch iPhones. A more accurate comparison would be total iPhone 6+ preorders vs Note 4 preorders.

We congratulate you on your deep sense of honesty. Your job application at Samsung failed.

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Another post where you are showing your knowledge on the subject...why don't you look at Apple's, their closest competitor, numbers during the same period. http://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-market-share.jsp

I'm sure you will come back with something even less informed in your next post.

Since you are so well informed, you can probably show us a chart of the phone market share, not the smartphone market share, which is much more informative because it isn't skewed by all the cheap phones that are now classified as smartphones, in a market where Apple doesn't even try to compete. And maybe you can find a chart that includes the third quarter and doesn't stop just before Apple introduces its most successful phone ever.

You might add a chart of the revenue share, where a $600 phone counts the same as six $100 phones. Or a chart of profit share. Which is what really counts.

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Doesn't WebKit predate Safari? As I recall, when Apple revealed Safari they said that they were utilizing an open source engine that had existed for a few years, and everyone assumed that they meant Gecko (Firefox's engine) at first.

There was an open source library which Apple took, improved, and turned into Webkit. Google has recently thrown its toys out of the pram and created a fork of Webkit.

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Still with that wrong claim that Google sells their data?

At least, if you don't like a company, post right claims, not the same wrong ******** wvery time

OK. We'll admit it. When companies pay Google for our data, Google doesn't actually sell the data, it rents them out so they can get money from our data again and again.

Happy now?

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That's interesting that it was an artificial cap, not an "organic" one. Which seems a little odd, since it just makes the numbers look bad for them, even if it works out the same in the end once the device is actually on sale. Does Samsung announce per-device sales numbers ever? Maybe they set the bar low to avoid tipping their hand what demand really was, or because they were afraid it would be very low.

Even so, I wonder if they sold out of those preorders within 10 minutes...

Bizarre. Apple builds millions and millions of phones and still can't keep up with demand, and there's always someone claiming that they are doing this to create some artificial scarcity. And here is Samsung, having just 30,000 phones for their home country.

 

[fredaroony]

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Since you are so well informed, you can probably show us a chart of the phone market share, not the smartphone market share, which is much more informative because it isn't skewed by all the cheap phones that are now classified as smartphones, in a market where Apple doesn't even try to compete. And maybe you can find a chart that includes the third quarter and doesn't stop just before Apple introduces its most successful phone ever.

You might add a chart of the revenue share, where a $600 phone counts the same as six $100 phones. Or a chart of profit share. Which is what really counts.

Find it yourself as that was not part of the discussion and I'm not here to do research for you. What you posted is irrelevant and has no bearing on manufacturer marketshare.

 

[gnasher729]

They went from 60 % growth to 60 % decline in profits. What a turn! Costumers learned and were only fooled once or twice. And the news about their Chairman and possible successor, cheating on benchmarks, being known for useless gimmicks, the attempts to break from Google? What a *****torm.

You probably know that Samsung is an awful lot more than just their mobile division.

The 60% profit drop is for _all_ of Samsung, including TVs, fridges, semiconductors, and so on and so on. Profit of their mobile division actually dropped by 70%.

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Find it yourself as that was not part of the discussion and I'm not here to do research for you. What you posted is irrelevant and has no bearing on manufacturer marketshare.

In other words, these numbers are not showing what you would want people to see. You only do research for us when the outcome is what you want. But if it makes you feel better, feel free to enjoy your skewed world view.

 

[fredaroony]

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In other words, these numbers are not showing what you would want people to see. You only do research for us when the outcome is what you want. But if it makes you feel better, feel free to enjoy your skewed world view.

Sorry, I was just posting facts and wasn't interested in skewing the data one way or another.

 

[Oletros]

OK. We'll admit it. When companies pay Google for our data, Google doesn't actually sell the data, it rents them out so they can get money from our data again and again.

Happy now?

Yep happy to see that you still post to the same things after being told to you wrong they are.
It tell a la t about you.

Happy now?