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Example 1:
VoCo from adobe + TikToks own database of facial expressions of a given person.
You don't even need to have a account. Few "tourists" sit near person of interest playing with an harmless app.
In right circumstances they can synthesize the voice and facial image to impersonate. Exchange tourists with kids. With enough time and "do this with your parents" challenge you got what you need.

Example 2: All data recorded including house layout, room size, stuff inside. Takes minutes to create a digital representation of place of interest.

Example 3: Voluntary giving away your biometrics as a user. They can do everything they want. Literally. They know your geolocation, facial expressions, most likely have clear retina images, know your friends, what you wear, how you speak. Let's even assume the company itself has no malicious content BUT gets hacked. Now somebody has it all.

A very simple example of how people get scammed are those tiny facebook/instagram "quizzes".
1. 2nd and 5th letter of your name means this.
2. 1st and last number of your birthday means that.
3. repeat with consecutive quizzes and you get peoples data about whole family which then uses probability to create bots that break passwords among other things.
And all of that can be said about Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and others as well. As I said before, ban one, ban them all. Why TikTok alone?

Fallacy.
all you need is 1 person to accept and your point is moot.
Not to mention your "educated" opinion is based on belief that they told you EVERYTHING they do with it. Good luck, I got a beachfront in Nebraska to sell you.
Not sure what you're saying. 1 person can choose to provide that information here on MacRumors and you'd end up in the same situation. So what do we do? Turn off the internet because someone posted any type of data?

My opinion is not based on belief. It's based on facts. As I pointed out before, you can find out what data they actually collect. Even the NSA is providing tools which allow you to do that, but you can always create your own tools. My opinion is also based on a security research group that is actually publishing on this topic which happens to sit down the hall from my own research group at the university where I teach and do research in computer science and mathematics.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for security and privacy, but it has to apply for everyone and not only one company picked by someone who's butthurt.
 
To be fair and objective, one would have to acknowledge that both sides say this about the other side.

So, to be specific, can you name for us what you think is the NUMBER ONE truth that Republicans refuse to acknowledge, and what is the proof that convinces you of that? And given that that would be your number one issue for you, can you give examples of how Republicans see that differently to you -- and have you consented to review the reasons that they give for taking their stance against yours?
NUMBER ONE truth Republicans refuse to acknowledge: Biden won the election. There is no proof of fraud, except for trump. Also, trump is a liar. You will say, "everybody lies". Not like trump. trump tells really dumb lies. He will tell you you didn't see what you saw. His followers will go along with it. Then, fake outrage when a democrat lies.
Republicans believe in crazy conspiracy theories. Without ANY proof to back any of it up. Republicans claim to care about freedom, but want to hang anyone who doesn't follow their agenda. Republicans have NO conviction. Anyone who denies seeing any of this...can't be reasoned with.
 
There is no proof of fraud, except for trump.
Well, this guy says Trump won:
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He also says TikTok is a threat to national security and that they secretly collect all your data, more than stated in their TOS. He looks very trustworthy, pretty sure he knows what he's talking about.





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NUMBER ONE truth Republicans refuse to acknowledge: Biden won the election. There is no proof of fraud, except for trump. Also, trump is a liar. You will say, "everybody lies". Not like trump. trump tells really dumb lies. He will tell you you didn't see what you saw. His followers will go along with it. Then, fake outrage when a democrat lies.
Republicans believe in crazy conspiracy theories. Without ANY proof to back any of it up. Republicans claim to care about freedom, but want to hang anyone who doesn't follow their agenda. Republicans have NO conviction. Anyone who denies seeing any of this...can't be reasoned with.

Ok, remember what I said about speaking plainly and not getting caught in buzzwords.

Let's all agree that Congress took the votes that were certified by the States, and handed the Electoral College to Biden. I speak plainly.

Now, when you say "There is no proof of fraud", can I ask you to stand in the shoes of the sane Republicans who believe that. And I ask you: What makes those Republicans think there is proof of fraud? Those things that Republicans regard as "proof" -- have you heard what those are? Even if you think it was nonsense, have you taken time to view the materials that cause those Republicans to think that there is proof?

i.e. how much do you understand the other side? Or do you regard them -- as you said - as people who view Democrats are baby-blood guzzlers? If we simply think of the other side using the Media's buzzwords, then it avoids the need to discuss this in a rational way.

If we assume Republicans are complete raving idiots, then there is no need for a Democrat to engage in a thinking process of asking oneself: what is the information that is causing 75% of the Republicans to think that there is "proof" of fraud?

To understand the other side, you have to get in their shoes and explain what they are thinking and saying.

So even if you think Republicans are totally loony for thinking there is "proof" of fraud, at least -- if you are a thinking person - you should be able to explain what things the Republicans are regarding as "proof of fraud".
 
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And all of that can be said about Amazon, Apple, Google, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and others as well. As I said before, ban one, ban them all. Why TikTok alone?


Not sure what you're saying. 1 person can choose to provide that information here on MacRumors and you'd end up in the same situation. So what do we do? Turn off the internet because someone posted any type of data?

My opinion is not based on belief. It's based on facts. As I pointed out before, you can find out what data they actually collect. Even the NSA is providing tools which allow you to do that, but you can always create your own tools. My opinion is also based on a security research group that is actually publishing on this topic which happens to sit down the hall from my own research group at the university where I teach and do research in computer science and mathematics.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for security and privacy, but it has to apply for everyone and not only one company picked by someone who's butthurt.

TikTok is the most invasive one so it is a good start.
On top of that ** from wikipedia "...As with many Chinese companies, the company has an internal CCP committee serving the party members among the employees, with vice president Zhang Fuping serving as its Party Committee Secretary.[26]..."

Then you take into account that in China "...Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, YouTube and many others..." are banned and make a educated decision.
After that you revise them all to keep people safe. it should be common sense cause it is logical. China and many other countries are making sure their populations data is safe from foreign influence why in US this is called an absurd?

The fact that you teach computer science and don't find this tech invasive and potentially disastrous especially coming from a company (ANY company in this matter) that has open ties to foreign governments is the scary part.
You say you are in a research group and you do not see a problem with all this data being harvested? Are you non profit or is the whole place big $$ sponsored cause that would explain your approach.

Most people I know already ditched alexas and stuff like that. All it took was me pointing them towards resources they can read about. I'm not here to tell people what to do. it's their choice. I just want to make sure everybody is 100% aware what is that they are doing AND if this line is being blurred especially by academia then hell yeah the government needs to step in to protects its people. it's their job.

In todays day the abundance of information combined with gap holed / outdated education vastly surpasses generals population ability to logically process it and people are taking advantage of it. That's a nono.
 
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Ok, remember what I said about speaking plainly and not getting caught in buzzwords.

Let's all agree that Congress took the votes that were certified by the States, and handed the Electoral College to Biden. I speak plainly.

Now, when you say "There is no proof of fraud", can I ask you to stand in the shoes of the sane Republicans who believe that. And I ask you: What makes those Republicans think there is proof of fraud? Those things that Republicans regard as "proof" -- have you heard what those are? Even if you think it was nonsense, have you taken time to view the materials that cause those Republicans to think that there is proof?

i.e. how much do you understand the other side? Or do you regard them -- as you said - as people who view Democrats are baby-blood guzzlers? If we simply think of the other side using the Media's buzzwords, then it avoids the need to discuss this in a rational way.

If we assume Republicans are complete raving idiots, then there is no need for a Democrat to engage in a thinking process of asking oneself: what is the information that is causing 75% of the Republicans to think that there is "proof" of fraud?

To understand the other side, you have to get in their shoes and explain what they are thinking and saying.

So even if you think Republicans are totally loony for thinking there is "proof" of fraud, at least -- if you are a thinking person - you should be able to explain what things the Republicans are regarding as "proof of fraud".
They have presented NO proof of fraud. Yet, make the claim. Fact.
These are my own words. Fact. Call them what you want.
Republicans do actually believe these "buzzwords". The media isn't making this stuff up. The Republicans are. This is now what the Republican party is about. The "sane" ones who speak against it, get death threats. Fact.
I am speaking plainly, and you are trying to disregard the facts that I have presented by calling them "buzzwords". They are not buzzwords...they are what Republicans believe is reality. Fact.
You are trying to twist what I say into I don't even know what. It's called deflection. Fact.
 
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They have presented NO proof of fraud. Yet, make the claim. Fact.

My questions to you is: Are you willing to review the information that Republicans want to present as proof of fraud?

Remember, 75% of Republicans think they have been trying to present proof of fraud.

Even if you think they have not, my question to you is: are you willing to review the information -- that you say they have not presented -- but they say they want to present?

i.e. there is something that is making Republicans think there is proof. Are you willing to look at what they are referring to?

The instant you tell me you are an open-minded person, and not a close-minded person, I can give you further information. But if you are, in reality, a close-minded person, then all the proof I can give you would not get through to you, because you never gave me a chance.
 
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That is complete and utter nonsense. He isn't any less congnitive than any other healthy 78 year old man is. They forget words sometimes. My mother has dementia, so I know what it looks like up close. And it's an insult when that terrible disease is used as a punchline to make a political point.

Meanwhile, we had a guy only 4 years younger who thought we could nuke hurricanes, the Revolutionary era had airports, windmills cause cancer and that medical knowledge was hereditary. Yet no one was talking about dementia then? Or maybe Trump is just monumentally stupid.
I don’t know where to start, except I am sorry to hear your mother has dementia. If you think Biden doesn’t suffer from abnormal cognitive decline, I have an M1 iPad Pro running macOS to sell you… and what is with you guys’ only rebuttal to anyone’s dislike for Biden with bringing up your issues with Trump?? 😵‍💫
 
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It's crazy to rejoin the Paris climate accord? It's crazy to undo Trump's gutting of environmental protections? It's crazy to reinstate travel restrictions Trump lifted from countries such as Brazil, Ireland, and the UK... countries where the Covid-19 infections at the time still weren't under control?
Not crazy, it’s STUPID to rejoin the PCA
 
Are we living on the same planet? He's old, sure, but nearly everything you just said is completely detached from reality. I doubt I'll be as articulate, or concise when I'm as old as he is now. He'e had a speech impediment all his life. That comes out sometimes when he speaks, and like I said, he's getting up there. But "demented and not mentally there," is wildly inaccurate.
What planet are you on? Compare Biden speeches in 2008 and 2020. He’s a complete and utter buffoon who has serious cognitive decline and the DNC ought to be ashamed as the “party of diversity” putting another old white man in office When they had far better candidates. Of course this is the part where you bring up Trump and Republicans by assuming I support Trump and/or the Republican Party. 🙄 Anyone who thinks Biden is fit for president has some serious soul searching, and Kamala Harris couldn’t be more shallow and less fit for VP.
 
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Well, this guy says Trump won:
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He also says TikTok is a threat to national security and that they secretly collect all your data, more than stated in their TOS. He looks very trustworthy, pretty sure he knows what he's talking about.





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Let me present you what an actual researcher does (even though he's just a nerd) versus your "funny" (as a researcher that you claim to be) memes.

BTW I will eat my words and say sorry if you post a actual research document / data stating that TikTok is ok.

Use this link and then follow the data as it is presented. Find him and other people like him on Twitter/Blogs and etc to get the big picture.





And I can go on forever.
 
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NUMBER ONE truth Republicans refuse to acknowledge: Biden won the election. There is no proof of fraud, except for trump. Also, trump is a liar. You will say, "everybody lies". Not like trump. trump tells really dumb lies. He will tell you you didn't see what you saw. His followers will go along with it. Then, fake outrage when a democrat lies.
Republicans believe in crazy conspiracy theories. Without ANY proof to back any of it up. Republicans claim to care about freedom, but want to hang anyone who doesn't follow their agenda. Republicans have NO conviction. Anyone who denies seeing any of this...can't be reasoned with.

There was proof of election fraud, just not large enough to compromise the election. That is the official status.
 
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There was proof of election fraud, just not large enough to compromise the election. That is the official status.

Ok. Are you willing to view the information that Republicans are relying on to say that it was large enough to compromise the election?

You might say there is no such proof -- but are you willing to view the information that the other side is offering as proof?
 
In and of itself, I can see multiple reasons personally.

But government shouldn’t get involved on whims. Banning a company just because they’re from China is a terrible thing to do and simply leads to tit for tat activity.

Banning a company because they’re dangerous and acting on behalf of a foreign government - now that’s a reason to ban - if it’s true.

I think you're taking my post a bit too seriously. Mine was sarcastic in nature as not as high level. Meaning, TikTok is annoying, it shouldn't really be accessible, how that comes to be…i don't care. 😁
 
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The president has no control over gas prices. It's based on production levels and demand.
That’s not entirely true. By his execrutive action against the keystone pipeline, Biden absolutely did have an effect on the pricing of gas over the next several years at least. When we have to buy oil from other countries they set the pricing.

Im very curious why gas is still over $3/gallon? If the reason for the shortage was the hack and shutdown of the pipeline which has now been properly running again for weeks why haven’t prices gone back down? There is no shortage of gas and the transportation issue is back to normal. The only reason it’s still up is greed as far as I can tell.
 
There was proof of election fraud, just not large enough to compromise the election. That is the official status.
The actions of naughty Democrats, here and there, you can say could not have swung an election.

But if a machine has a software algorithm - that was coded by a naughty person - that, theoretically has so much more power to swing numbers, compared to individual people doing naughty things with individual ballots. So the question is: are you willing to view information on fraud committed by naughty people at the level of software code?

If there is such information, and you flatly refuse to even look at it, then it's not hard to imagine that there were judges in courts who took the same approach - of flatly refusing to even look at the information.

This is not just R vs D. It is on the public record whether courts were willing to look at the documents that were submitted to them.

I'll make it simple for you. When documents are submitted about software-code fraud, if the court agrees to consider those documents, they have to bring in technical experts to comment on the documents. Therefore, how many courts did this? The record shows that not one court was willing to do this.
 
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