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You don't get it, without a light you have to keep pushing your home button to check, with a light you can leave a room or have your phone on silent and see the blinking coloured light for different messages.



Not different strokes you must be a button pusher:)


I have no use for a feature that allows me to set my phone down in a room, walk out of that room, then know what notifications are on my phone by walking by that room or being in the room.

If my phone isn't on my person, I have no desire to check it or keep up with notifications. I'll get to whatever is there when I feel like it.

For all the other times (which is 99.9% of the time for me), iOS notifications are far superior to a notification light.

You guys seem to think I'm somehow against Apple implementing it. That's completely wrong. I simply couldn't care less if it's added because I see no use in one. For those of you who simply MUST have it, fine. I still find the assertion that it's some big time feature laughable.
 
Can you do that now with your rooted M8? I hated that HTC only blinks for 5 mins.

I have not tried it yet with my M8....but it works great with my S5 :)
The notification light on the S5 is soooo much bigger...displays more light!

Oh and those that say this is a useless feature.....will argue and argue how useless it is.....until it is on an iphone. Then it is innovation......
 
I have no use for a feature that allows me to set my phone down in a room, walk out of that room, then know what notifications are on my phone by walking by that room or being in the room.

If my phone isn't on my person, I have no desire to check it or keep up with notifications. I'll get to whatever is there when I feel like it.

For all the other times (which is 99.9% of the time for me), iOS notifications are far superior to a notification light.

You guys seem to think I'm somehow against Apple implementing it. That's completely wrong. I simply couldn't care less if it's added because I see no use in one. For those of you who simply MUST have it, fine. I still find the assertion that it's some big time feature laughable.

Its a basic feature that Apple won't let you have that's all. Its ok you don't like it as you can't have it:p Maybe iPhone 6.
 
Oh and those that say this is a useless feature.....will argue and argue how useless it is.....until it is on an iphone. Then it is innovation......

Funny how they don't use their brain when defending what iPhone does not have.
 
iOS does many things very well. Notifications are not one of them. In fact, notifications are one of the worst things on iOS.

Here's why notification lights are good: they let you know whether or not you even need to check your phone. You don't need to turn the thing on. Screen's all black? Good, no worries. Carry on. You didn't miss anything. I come back from the bathroom and look at my phone and without doing anything I know what's going on. No need to pick it up, turn the screen on, check anything. Nope. Just a quick glance and bang. Done.

That's not even getting into the absolute clusterf*ck that is iOS's notification center. That thing is horrid. When you have notifications from an app, opening the app for some reason doesn't clear the notifications. You HAVE to clear the notifications manually. More than that, there are no PERSISTENT notifications, so there's no way to know what ongoing apps are currently open (Skype, for example).

So with iOS you find yourself in this wonderful situation where you have an enormous backlog of notifications stretching DAYS from email, texts, Skype, Trillian, Scramble with Friends, Twitter, Facebook, Spotify and who knows what else that, despite the fact that you've read every message and dealt with everything, are STILL in the notification drawer until you clear them one at a time.

Android? So much faster and more elegant.
 
If my phone isn't on my person, I likely don't want to be bothered with it. A notification light does nothing for me except show me there are notifications waiting - which I could care less about if I'm not looking to be contacted. If I am open to communication, I'll pick my phone up and all the notifications will be right there with short previews so I can prioritize which to respond to. Far more useful IMO.

I don't have a landline, so I use my smartphone for all calls. I generally leave my phone on a table when at home. I may leave the room and not hear the notification sound. It's nice to have a notification light, so I don't have to always check my phone every time I leave the room and come back.

I want them to standardize the gestures.....I don't know if that's simply a dev thing or if Apple has kept that feature for itself.

Apple does indeed use swipe to go back gesture in iOS 7.

It seems the browser has a swipe in from the left edge to go back. Pulse does this. However, this does not seem to be the case for all apps. If there is some other swipe to go back gesture, I'd like to know what it is.
 
I don't have a landline, so I use my smartphone for all calls. I generally leave my phone on a table when at home. I may leave the room and not hear the notification sound. It's nice to have a notification light, so I don't have to always check my phone every time I leave the room and come back.





It seems the browser has a swipe in from the left edge to go back. Pulse does this. However, this does not seem to be the case for all apps. If there is some other swipe to go back gesture, I'd like to know what it is.
Maybe developers haven't implemented the API for swipe back perhaps?

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iOS does many things very well. Notifications are not one of them. In fact, notifications are one of the worst things on iOS.

Here's why notification lights are good: they let you know whether or not you even need to check your phone. You don't need to turn the thing on. Screen's all black? Good, no worries. Carry on. You didn't miss anything. I come back from the bathroom and look at my phone and without doing anything I know what's going on. No need to pick it up, turn the screen on, check anything. Nope. Just a quick glance and bang. Done.

That's not even getting into the absolute clusterf*ck that is iOS's notification center. That thing is horrid. When you have notifications from an app, opening the app for some reason doesn't clear the notifications. You HAVE to clear the notifications manually. More than that, there are no PERSISTENT notifications, so there's no way to know what ongoing apps are currently open (Skype, for example).

So with iOS you find yourself in this wonderful situation where you have an enormous backlog of notifications stretching DAYS from email, texts, Skype, Trillian, Scramble with Friends, Twitter, Facebook, Spotify and who knows what else that, despite the fact that you've read every message and dealt with everything, are STILL in the notification drawer until you clear them one at a time.

Android? So much faster and more elegant.

But being able to press the banner to switch to that app is better than on Android where you have to swipe down to open notification centre then press the notification.

I also prefer the iOS lock screen notifications by seeing all of them and swiping the icon to go right into the notification.

Can't you accept that n certain regards, iOS notifications is better?
 
I have not tried it yet with my M8....but it works great with my S5 :)
The notification light on the S5 is soooo much bigger...displays more light!

Oh and those that say this is a useless feature.....will argue and argue how useless it is.....until it is on an iphone. Then it is innovation......

If someone claims its useless they are just talking **** :eek: i dont know why Apple dont put a notification light like they do on macbooks, you dont even know its there until it light up (the webcam light)
 
iPhone Does Have Notification Light

Won't give you everything Android does with lights (different colors), but:

Go into Settings, General, Accessibility and scroll down to Hearing.

You can set up LED Flash for Alerts and now your camera flash will light up and blink when you receive an Alert.

You then go into Notification Center and decide what is an Alert. You can set up general system wide functions (Phone calls, messages, reminders, etc) and individual apps (NY Times, Google Voice, Dropbox, etc).
 
Won't give you everything Android does with lights (different colors), but:

Go into Settings, General, Accessibility and scroll down to Hearing.

You can set up LED Flash for Alerts and now your camera flash will light up and blink when you receive an Alert.

You then go into Notification Center and decide what is an Alert. You can set up general system wide functions (Phone calls, messages, reminders, etc) and individual apps (NY Times, Google Voice, Dropbox, etc).

yeah but is not in the front and it wont keep flashing/on
 
Apple notifications suck. Ancient keyboard suck. No blinky light suck. No customization suck. Same complaints for years and years and Apple doesn't seem to care. But WHY? can anyone explain why Apple are being so stubborn? It seems weird.
 
Apple notifications suck. Ancient keyboard suck. No blinky light suck. No customization suck. Same complaints for years and years and Apple doesn't seem to care. But WHY? can anyone explain why Apple are being so stubborn? It seems weird.

Notification don't suck and the keyboard is pretty good actually in terms of auto correct. again, LED light isn't important to all.
 
Camera and my paid games are only things I miss from my past iPhones. Once I got into swipe gesture apps from All In One Gestures, Swipe Home, and Nova Launcher Prime, I never looked back at the archaic way of iOS and its single home button. SwiftKey, TubeMate, ES File Explorer, cross-platform apps like Viber, Bluetooth transfer, and more universal standards like micro-USB charging were just gravy.
 
Notification don't suck and the keyboard is pretty good actually in terms of auto correct. again, LED light isn't important to all.

I agree that the notifications on iOS don't suck they just aren't nearly as good as on Android. IOS is a poor copy of gingerbread notifications from where Apple took the idea.

Keyboard wise, there is no reason why Apple could not have put swipe feature on their keyboard. Even Windows phone has this ability and it absolutely rocks.

LED is a nice option, but not required. The Moto X proved this. I love how Motorola implemented this feature of active display. Apple should copy this feature since they have a portion of their CPU dedicated to specific features.
 
I have not tried it yet with my M8....but it works great with my S5 :)
The notification light on the S5 is soooo much bigger...displays more light!

Oh and those that say this is a useless feature.....will argue and argue how useless it is.....until it is on an iphone. Then it is innovation......

Ok.. Let's see what this light can do actually..

You say u have a light for everything.. When the light blinks you know what u got..

1. So if it a blue light and it's not important what do you do to get it off..? Or does go out by itself, because if that's the case then there is no point for it.. You have to start the screen or see the notification or something.. In a way u use the button to get rid of the light maybe? What do you do to stop the light flashing?

2. you get different notifications from different apps, so u get different colored lights.. Again, if it's important you will go and see, if it's not it'll just keep blinking with different colors... But again to see or get rid of it, you will have use a button..

3. But on an iPhone, you don't have a light, you can see your notifications directly from the lockscreen when you want to unlock the phone , if you unlock.. So there is no need for the light... Because again to stop it from blinking you have to use a button..

4. Everyone has a notification center, everyone can see what they have missed, so it still doesn't make sense having a light..

5. A light will be useful only when you u don't have your phone for a long time and you have missed notification.. But ull have to to stop and see which light is blinking, even though that might take only a few seconds, but to actually see your notification you have to go on your phone. So the light will work for you only for 1 second or so.

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Wow! Guess what - with ONE touch, I can see all the things you mentioned PLUS I know if anything is urgent or pressing because I can see exactly WHO has texted me or emailed me or WHAT that Facebook notification was for.

Exactly !!! To see your notifications you will anyways have to open your phone and see, the light will just be there for 1 second to say u have this notification from this app.
 
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Actually, the back button is a really interesting thing to consider for the future of the iPhone.

If the iPhone gets larger, up to 4.7" or even the rumored phablet sized 5.5", how will the back button work then in iOS?

Even with a 4" screen, the back button at the upper left corner can be difficult to reach... I can't imagine how much harder it'll be to reach for a 4.7" or 5.5" phone.

Wonder what Apple will do. Will there be universal swiping? It makes perfect sense that Android offers a back button since their devices/screens have always been larger.

As of ios7, Apple has put in a forward/back gesture where you just swipe from the edge of the screen. Much, much simpler and more effective than having to push a button. When an app is updated for ios7, it has that functionality included.

Funny thing is, this is now the one thing that I will miss most if I switch to an Android phone. Does anyone know if Google will update Android with a forward/back gesture?
 
Agreed the forward/back gesture is very nice

Especially for one handed use

Even only if web browsers on android stole it I'd be happy

I don't know why Android still uses the three menu buttons. Just replace all of them with gestures. We would get more screen real estate as well.
 
Ok.. Let's see what this light can do actually..

You say u have a light for everything.. When the light blinks you know what u got..

1. So if it a blue light and it's not important what do you do to get it off..? Or does go out by itself, because if that's the case then there is no point for it.. You have to start the screen or see the notification or something.. In a way u use the button to get rid of the light maybe? What do you do to stop the light flashing?

The flashing light will not stop until you open the app that started the notification.

2. you get different notifications from different apps, so u get different colored lights.. Again, if it's important you will go and see, if it's not it'll just keep blinking with different colors..(which is I think a little good cause it reminds u but annoying if you don't check your phone for an hour and that lights keep blinking, even though u won't be there to see)

If you are not there to see.....how can it be annoying?

3 .but on an iPhone, you don't have a light, you can see your notifications directly from the lockscreen when you want to unlock the phone , if you unlock.. So there is no need for the light... Because again to stop it from blinking you have to use a button..

But the key difference that has been stated several times.....you do not have to touch or wake the screen to see the notifications. Because the flashing/blinking light will inform you what the notification is. Then you can decide if it is worth responding now or it can wait until later. But again......no need to touch the phone or wake the screen.

4. Everyone has a notification center, everyone can see what they have missed, so it still doesn't make sense having a light..

See reasons for flashing light above....it has been asked and answered.....

5. A light will be useful only when you u don't have your phone for a long time and you have missed notification.. But ull have to to stop and see which light is glazing, even though that might take only a few seconds, but to actually see your notification you have to go on your phone. So the light will work for you only for 1 second or so.

Not correct.......you can see just by LOOKING at you phone what the notification is.
If you are waiting for an email response from someone.........you leave the room for a bio break......come back....look at your phone.....flashing green light.......you have an email. Depending on the light color and app it represents....means you can either pick up your phone and wake the screen and do what you need to do.....or just ignore it.


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Exactly !!! To see your notifications you will anyways have to open your phone and see, the light will just be there for 1 second to say u have this notification from this app.

Responses above^^^^
 
As of ios7, Apple has put in a forward/back gesture where you just swipe from the edge of the screen. Much, much simpler and more effective than having to push a button. When an app is updated for ios7, it has that functionality included.

Funny thing is, this is now the one thing that I will miss most if I switch to an Android phone. Does anyone know if Google will update Android with a forward/back gesture?

I do like the gestures, but it doesn't seem universal enough on my 5C. Hopefully more will adopt.

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Notification don't suck and the keyboard is pretty good actually in terms of auto correct. again, LED light isn't important to all.

I have to disagree with at least the keyboard. Ever since getting acclimated to the Moto X keyboard, whenever I go to use my 5C keyboard, I find it pales in comparison even with auto correction. It's really nice being able to customize my personal dictionary, or swiping if I'm in one hand usage-mode, or even selecting words from the suggestion bar. I also find editing on the Android keyboard easier. The cursor is just easier to move around. I don't have to wait for the magnifying glass to open up. Also, in general, I find the Android keyboard is more responsive. I notice the 5C sometimes doesn't get everything I type, which then leads to unintended auto corrections that are just wrong.

I sincerely hope iOS 8 brings a much needed update to the keyboard.

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I don't know why Android still uses the three menu buttons. Just replace all of them with gestures. We would get more screen real estate as well.

Personally, I love the three button layout. It feels really natural. When I switch from my Moto X back to my 5C, I find I sorely miss the buttons (even the app switcher button).

Also, software buttons are more interesting because you can do certain things with it. For example, you can swipe up from the home button to access Google Now or even to shut the screen off or to launch a default set app/action. It's really functional.

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Personally, I really prefer the Moto X's style of notifications both with the notification light, with the Active Display, and with Android's standard and discrete notifications in the upper top bar. Someone else also mentioned something that I forgot: the fact that you can expand and take immediate action on a notification. Just makes things easier and makes you feel more productive.

I really hope the banner drop down can be more discrete and non-obtrusive in future updates. Sometimes when I'm playing tetris, that banner is really obnoxious and distracting.
 
I don't know why Android still uses the three menu buttons. Just replace all of them with gestures. We would get more screen real estate as well.

Heh actually I'm enjoying the capacitive buttons + physical home layout samsung uses w/ 'swipe home button' to create an up down gesture for multitasking

Best would be to be able to switch between capacitive and on screen like the one plus one imo
 
Maybe developers haven't implemented the API for swipe back perhaps?

As of ios7, Apple has put in a forward/back gesture where you just swipe from the edge of the screen. Much, much simpler and more effective than having to push a button. When an app is updated for ios7, it has that functionality included.

Funny thing is, this is now the one thing that I will miss most if I switch to an Android phone. Does anyone know if Google will update Android with a forward/back gesture?

This is a difference between the Android UI and iOS UI. The inward swipe from the left edge of the screen on Android is used in place of the menu button. Generally, the menu button (hamburger icon) is at the top left of the app. The lastest version of Android phones seem to replace the menu botton at the bottom with the task list button. Before the bottom buttons were home, menu and back. Now it seems to be home, task list and back.

On a number of my Android apps where the hamburger icon for the menu button is on the top left, I can swipe inwards from the left edge of the screen to bring up the menu. The Google+ app uses this gesture for both the Android an iOS version. When I swipe inwards from the left edge on the iOS version, I get the menu. On Google+ I have to swipe from the centre to the right edge when viewing a post in order to go back to my main feed. I can also overscroll past the bottom of the comments to go back.

Funny, how I have often complained in the past that some apps on Android work more like an iOS version. This is one case where the iOS version works too much like the Android version and is causing me some confusion.

The iOS Pulse app uses the swipe in from the left edge to go back to the previous screen. That works consistently throughout the app. On Android, I just use the back button.
 
I have to disagree with at least the keyboard. Ever since getting acclimated to the Moto X keyboard, whenever I go to use my 5C keyboard, I find it pales in comparison even with auto correction. It's really nice being able to customize my personal dictionary, or swiping if I'm in one hand usage-mode, or even selecting words from the suggestion bar. I also find editing on the Android keyboard easier. The cursor is just easier to move around. I don't have to wait for the magnifying glass to open up. Also, in general, I find the Android keyboard is more responsive. I notice the 5C sometimes doesn't get everything I type, which then leads to unintended auto corrections that are just wrong.

I sincerely hope iOS 8 brings a much needed update to the keyboard.

Regarding the iOS keyboard, I find it easy to type on. It did not take me long to get used to typing on it. I think it took a couple of weeks before I felt I was reasonably proficient. I do find it quite comfortable to use. I generally type in landscape using two thumbs.

I think the auto-correct is pretty good. It feels as good as Kii and other Android keyboards I have used. One thing that I was impressed with is that it once was able to properly correct me when I accidentally pressed the space bar instead of one of the letters on the bottom row. I only recall this being successful once. It failed the other times. That's one more time than any of the Android keyboards I have used. Normally, when you press the space bar, the keyboard thinks you have finished typing the word and any letters belong to a new word.

My biggest issue is that it is a hassle to type any punctuation (other than the period to end a sentence) or numbers. I'm used to the Kii keyboard which makes it easy with number pad and punctuation symbols written on the keys that you access by long tapping it. Having to switch to a number/symbol layout and then looking for the symbol and then possibly not finding it and then having to select the second symbol layout is rather frustrating at times. I haven't gotten used to this yet.

Gesture typing like in Swype would be nice as well. On my Android phone, I would use gesture typing when using the device one handed. So far, I hardly ever type in portrait. I was pretty much forced to during the setup. When I first started configuring the iPhone, I could not switch to landscape mode when entering information like my Apple ID. I turned the phone sideways, but the screen stayed in portrait. I think I had to select the input field first before I could switch to landscape. I didn't know it at the time and found out later.

I still make errors when typing. I make too many on touch screen keyboards no matter which keyboard I use. On the iOS keyboard, I sometimes accidently hit the shift key when trying to type the letter A. This is actually one of my more common errors. The auto-correct fails to correct this type of keying error I make. On top of it, if I backspace, the keyboard thinks I still want to capitalise the next letter and I end up typing a capital letter instead of a lower case letter which causes me to have to correct the word again.

I would have liked the keyboard to give a better indication that I had pressed the shift key. On many Android keyboards, the keys are shown in lower case. When you press the shift key, the keys are shown in upper case to better indicate that you had pressed the shift key. On the iOS keyboard, the only indication you pressed the shift key is the shift key being highlighted which is not much of an indication. My left thumb is often in the way and I may not realise the shift key is pressed until I finish typing the word.

The iOS keyboard does not suffer from some issues I have with the Kii keyboard. The Kii layout I use has a number pad. When typing, if I accidentally press a number instead of a letter, the autocorrect assumes that whatever I type is a proper word and refuses to auto correct it.

I do enable gesture typing (like Swype) on Kii. I use gesture typing in portrait, but not in landscape. In landscape, I always just peck the keys with my thumbs. Sometimes, I accidentally swipe my thumb across more than one key. Kii thinks that I intend to gesture type and the result is Kii thinking I'm typing a new word when I accidently swipe my thumb a little. Unlike the Swype keyboard, gesture typing is not disabled in landscape (if you enable gesture typing).

I do feel the overall typing experience on the iOS to be pretty good. The shortcomings are more to do with a lack of features that I am used to on Android keyboards that I use. The iOS keyboard is pretty much the same one that came with the original iPhone. I think that it could use some improvements. When comparing the keyboard to other ones I have used on Android, I would rate it about the same as stock keyboards on the Samsung Galaxy S3 and HTC Desire Z. Most third party keyboards I have tried are a significant step above the iOS keyboard an stock keyboards on Android phones.
 
Oh my god. I really don't see the point when you have lock screen notifications like iOS. Why is that so hard to accept for so many people? I actually dislike the light when I'm trying to sleep and it keeps blinking.


Have you guys that firmly support support LED light thought that not everyone HAS to think it's useful? Please stop trying to argue that and cram down you opinion down others throats.
 
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