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Meh ...

I'd rather see these two in a WELL historical documentary of how the British historically tried to help eradicate civilizations and cultures and a people most personal to Oprah and myself. Now THAT is the kind of content I'd like Apple to really push out and challenge the status quo. I'm just one person of a single mind.

Not sure how a wealthy, happily married (to a cool and beautiful woman) and new father, with the absolute control over any environment he's in ... as a Prince is really suffering mental illness?!
If I remember correctly, Harry has given interviews in which he discussed battling mental health and substance abuse problems after his mother's death when he was 12. I don't recall exactly what he said about what he went through, but it does go to show mental illness transcends socio economic status and stereotypes.
 
If I remember correctly, Harry has given interviews in which he discussed battling mental health and substance abuse problems after his mother's death when he was 12. I don't recall exactly what he said about what he went through, but it does go to show mental illness transcends socio economic status and stereotypes.

DAMN!

Thank you ... I completely forgot about how his mothers death affected him more than his older brother.
 
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I really think now is the time for this site to fork. Start applerumors.com, and move all the entertainment-related crap there. Keep this site focused on Apple tech.

Or maybe this is a sign of a deeper need. Maybe it's Apple that needs to split up. Apple Entertainment and Apple Technology. And put someone in charge of technology that actually cares about driving that business forward.
 
Going to add a dash of sanity here:

It's my opinion that Oprah is largely a hypocrite but probably has okay intentions, even if they're misguided and I don't agree with her methods. She's done equal amounts of harm and good. The Royal Family, bleh. Who cares. Waste of money and attention. Probably more harm than good, excepting perhaps Diana. Point is, I'm not a fan of either Harry or Oprah.

BUT if there's a high profile thing that some salty old dad tunes into and realizes maybe his kid/wife/sibling isn't just being a wimp or isn't just lazy, and that maybe getting the kid/wife/sibling to a doctor to see if something else is going on (mental health/endocrine system problem/bad diet/whatever) this probably won't hurt anything. But we'll withhold judgement until we actually see it, right?
 
DAMN!

Thank you ... I completely forgot about how his mothers death affected him more than his older brother.
There you go

https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-prince-william-ardern-abe-merkel-qisham-live

That said I still don't care about mental health docs. I want entertaining fiction, violent or non violent, nude or non nude, I don't care, I want good stories with great actors.

Netflix for example also has the royal family, of the entertaining type (without violence or whatever), in The Crown. And that is a pretty good show.
 
Harry I'll watch but not Oprah.
I've never really watched Oprah. I saw just one interview she did with a woman who had some sort of brain damage where she could not remember things past a day. And Oprah kept interrupting her and even cracked a joke about the problem that struck me as a bit callous. I didn't really have the desire to see more of her show after that. I'm sort of only peripherally aware of her career.

Is she really that unappealing, as my one impression of her would indicate? I can't tell because I've heard a lot of people say they can't stand her but then she appears to be massively successful after decades.
 
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Apple is taking "Think different" campaign to way to much height. Apple is thinking different but in a lot worse and weird way. Stupid people thinks different too. Apple, please please stick to you know "Hardware" and I believe it's called "Software" development that you used to do best long long time ago. If not let me give you idea, make a movie called "Animoji movie", I guess that is what you do best these days according to you.
 
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I've been mad for forking years, absolutely years. Been over the edge for yonks.
Been working me buns off for bands
I've always been mad, I know I've been mad. Like the most of us, very hard to explain why you're mad. Even if you're not mad
 
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Dude, I have never watched Oprah. I do not know what she says or does. I would not know if she speaks the truth or just tells "porkies", and always lies.

But, dude, do you always tell the "truth"? And never lie? If so, you are blessed.
[Dan, who was born in 1997, is a miracle of creation!/s]
You should have watched Oprah. Everyone got a car. It was awesome.
 
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Mental health is a huge issues these days

Yes, a huge part of the problem is access to quality care. Most insurances companies have huge co-pays that most people can't afford. While most mental health providers don't accept insurance at all. At least this is the case in the USA.
 
I truly believe that good mental health - mental fitness - is the key to powerful leadership
Hit the nail on the head here. Just look at our leaders and ask yourself, "Are these people mentally fit to lead?" The answer 9 times out of 10 is no. They cheat and payoff and lie and deceive and slither their way into power like the snakes they are.

As a victim of those with mental illness who had to overcome a lot to not slip into the same darkness as the rest of my family while growing up, I'm looking forward to seeing this. I'm a firm believer that the purpose of life is to become our best self so that we can serve others and leave our planet and fellow man in a better place. Mental illness is one of those ugly things that nobody wants to acknowledge until it hits them in the face (sometimes literally) and they are forced to confront it. The problem for the rest of you is that it's not simply going away and if anything it's only becoming more prevalent. I challenge Apple to not keep this behind a paywall and at a minimum to release it to the public after a year or two.
 
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Well see you're doing what I see so many people are doing these days, which is assuming that which applies to them applies to everyone else.
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I respect that others have different preferences and am glad there seems to be no shortage of gritty edgy programs for them. I don't begrudge or disrespect anyone for their preferences and hope they don't begrudge me mine.
This. Saying "I like shows with sex and violence" is perfectly fine. Saying, "therefore there should only be shows focused on sex and violence", is trying to force your preferences on everyone else because you believe them to be universal truths when they're merely your preferences (to be clear, his/one's, not your preferences). Now, I like those things (politics, sex, violence, etc) as well. But to say that a filmmaker can't make a compelling show for adults without those, is to say that they don't have much innate talent as a filmmaker - that they can't tell a compelling story in and of itself. One of my favorite shows, recently, is The Good Place, which is a comedy focused on ethics and philosophy (which makes it sound not very interesting - trust me, it's awesome). It has adult situations, I wouldn't show it to a child, but I would encourage a teenager to watch it, for the issues it raises (and also because it's extremely entertaining - Janet is awesome).

I'm taking a wait & see attitude on Apple's foray into TV programming. Much of it doesn't sound like my usual fare, but Apple has a knack for (and a history of) producing very high quality products, in general, and they have near-limitless resources, and they've enlisted some really top-notch talent. It'll be interesting to hear the reviews (from friends and from accomplished TV/film critics, not MR forum members with an axe to grind) when their shows have half a season released - I never would have guessed I'd like a comedy about philosophy, either (or a show about a community college study group, but the first few seasons of Community turned out to be great fun... and I can also remember thinking, "why would I want to watch a movie about a girl's soccer team?", but Bend It Like Beckham is terrific, plus it has a great bouncy soundtrack that introduced me to bhangra). So, I'll go by what friends and critics say of the resulting shows, rather than what MR forum members insist are necessary components of "every" good show.
 
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It seems, mental health is all the rage in 2019- cancer awareness is out of the mainstream spotlight, let’s see, what will knock this one from throne in 5-8 years. I will therefore protect my mental health by avoiding lectures from old people celebrities on currently trending mainstream topics. Like, what credibility do these two randos have when it comes to this topic? Why would I listen to prince (?) and a chick, that adverised spanx and kitchen knifes. Wtf, it really, REALLY seems, that some one from Apple just Googled “Top 10 celebreties” and then called, asking if they will do some random TV special...

Oh grow up. If you’re in a black hole or have the black dog and motivate or help even a small handful of people, you did a great job.

The Apple platform has the ability to reach millions and regardless of who is heading it or doing the talking, the reach potential is huge. The millions, if not billions Apple is spending on health and moving in a heath-focused direction should be applauded, not damned.

Regardless if they were helped through their own struggles with a silver spoon in their mouth, Oprah and Harry both still had the struggle, on many occasions - which is the same struggle as us mere mortals.

Mental health, depression, anxiety, phobias, suicidal ideation etc. doesn’t discriminate. You can be rich or poor, smart or dumb, American or Chinese - it’s the same battle for all.
 
I just can’t see apple making a TV show I want to watch.

Would they have made Breaking Bad? Too much drugs and violence. Game of Thrones? Too much death and nudity. Handmaid’s Tale? Too political I’d guess.

Everything I’ve seen so far just looks so wholesome and inoffensive.
The wouldn´t make a Dexter either. The output is going to be bland and full of their social narrative.
 
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I believe her Husband the crown prince actually was doing the cheating some few years long before ... just took the press to catch up.
She finally got away with it. It's not like Harry would've been the first prince to cheat on his wife ... but with the total power and control seemed to have slipped up and she got away.
Wow there was a lot of misinformation you were given. Princess Diana was married to Prince Charles, whom she claims was always involved with Camilla Parker-Bowles, the married woman he really had wanted to marry. But back then he could not marry a divorcee, nor even a single woman who was not a virgin. (Yes they had doctors check back then) He and Diana were more or less arranged.

Diana had a hard time accepting that Charles wanted to have a mistress like royal men had always done. She suffered mental health issues as a result, including bulimia.

She had sons William and Harry with Charles. Harry was long rumored to be the son of her red haired lover James Hewitt. But he's not. Harry looks almost exactly like Prince Charles' father when he was young.

Diana and Charles were ordered to divorce by the queen because their antics were getting out of hand and getting out to the public. The two sons have said in recent years that they were mortified through the worst of it.

Diana eventually took up with Dodi Fayed. Charles married his mistress. Diana and Dodi died in a car accident while being driven by a drunk chauffeur while being chased by paparazzi. Jeez, you can't make this stuff up. It was crazy.

To add to Harry's misery, his mother reportedly predicted something like that would happen to her. She was always extremely paranoid people in the royal court were out to end her and wasn't shy about letting that be known. I saw one interview where she hinted at that and it was pretty creepy. Anyway that's all the stuff I remember about them over the course of my life. Imagine growing up under all that and people thinking your life is great because you're a prince.

I was 16 when Diana married Charles and like a lot of teenaged girls of that time I got interested in Diana. I didn't obsess about her but I was aware of the news surrounding her life and death. It was covered pretty heavily even in the US.

Back then there was absolutely very rigid ideas of what a suitable bride for a royal prince would be and she was pretty much it.

I am multi racial myself, so if you were to go back in time and tell my 16 year old self that her son would grow up to marry a divorced biracial woman, I'd have been shocked to say the least. Never mind that Harry married an American actress with some seriously trashy family members. And so now the media and the public have plenty more judgements to pass about that.

He was in a long term relationship with one woman who refused to marry into all that. He's stuck with this life and I think he's just trying to make the best of it and give back to people like his mother had tried to do with her charity work. And I think that's what this recent project is about.
 
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