iPhone 11 Pro Pro is not Professional

newellj

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A pro machine cannot have 64 gb of storage.

A pro machine cannot have 4 gb of ram.

A pro machine cannot have a lightning port.

iPhone Pro = iPhone Deluxe.

They should stop calling it the iPhone Pro(fessional).
Really? I think the "Pro" title is silly, but nothing you list has anything to do with whether a tool is a professional tool or not.
 

aFlockaCgulz

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A pro machine cannot have 64 gb of storage.

A pro machine cannot have 4 gb of ram.

A pro machine cannot have a lightning port.

iPhone Pro = iPhone Deluxe.

They should stop calling it the iPhone Pro(fessional).
Seeing that the definition or specs of a “pro” device isn’t codified anywhere, thanks for sharing your opinion, I guess.

Apple can name it however they want.
 

newellj

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It's short for Pro-sumer, not Professional...
I skimmed through the keynote again today (looking for cues about improved FaceID) and sort of got the feeling that the use of "Pro" was really because of the camera (and nothing else). If that's what they meant, I guess it's ok - but I agree with you and think using "Pro" was silly.
 

MJedi

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A pro machine cannot have 64 gb of storage.

A pro machine cannot have 4 gb of ram.

A pro machine cannot have a lightning port.

iPhone Pro = iPhone Deluxe.

They should stop calling it the iPhone Pro(fessional).
So, according to your standards, the first MacBook Pro (released in 2006) should not have been called a Pro machine.

It came with only 512MB of RAM. It could be upgraded to 2GB, but it's still not "Pro" enough by your standards.

It didn't have a lightning port. (Okay, it wasn't invented yet. But those are your standards.)

But maybe it's kind of a "Pro" machine since it has 80GB of storage.

MacBook Deluxe? Maybe.
 

Shirasaki

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You are taking marketing bs way too seriously. Take a break and ignore the “true definition” of “pro” moniker.
And, Apple is hands down the best marketing company in the world, period. Just FYI.
Marketing is essentially a career when people can legally spread lies, after all.
 

tps3443

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A pro machine cannot have 64 gb of storage.

A pro machine cannot have 4 gb of ram.

A pro machine cannot have a lightning port.

iPhone Pro = iPhone Deluxe.

They should stop calling it the iPhone Pro(fessional).
Then buy the 256GB/512GB model.

I don’t care if they offer a 64GB option as the base iPhone Pro or not.

Also, 4GB of ram is plenty!

I think it is sufficient to be a Pro device.

iPhone 11 Pro is Ultra Premium build quality, with tougher glass, better triple lens camera setup.
 
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Nacho98

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Can't wait for the next five years of deep, intense, thought provoking discussions over and over here about something that is just a junk marketing term, nothing more, nothing less.

It means nothing, and the concept of a "professional" phone of all things, is absurd.

Apple can call it whatever they want, it's not worth the breath of the peanut gallery to uselessly overanalyze it.

iPhone Pro or iPhone Dogcrap, it's the same damn consumer device that will be in every 15 year old's pocket bought by mom and dad. I sincerely hope nobody here is so full of themselves as to think they themselves are worthy of "pro telephone person" while others are peasants beneath them who are unworthy.
 
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Caliber26

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You underestimate the fact that, in the hands of a professional photographer or videographer, these devices can yield 100% professional content. I assure you there are many pros out there who often incorporate iPhone-produced content with the rest of the material they shoot on gear that costs tens of thousands of dollars. And it almost always goes unnoticed by their clients. As long as these devices have the ability to produce pro content, there's no reason to have issue with the Pro naming.
 

maflynn

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A pro machine cannot have 64 gb of storage.

A pro machine cannot have 4 gb of ram.

A pro machine cannot have a lightning port.
Where does it state a pro machine cannot have these things? Btw, I think the marking the iPhone as a pro is silly, likewise stating what a pro machine must have
 
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BODYBUILDERPAUL

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As a marketing professional, old Phil was taking the p*ss by using the word pro for everything. They know that a redesign is coming next year so they through the pro word in as a dummy move throughout the presentation. It was done to see how gullible people can be.

An educated person does not need marketing - in fact they are not taken in by materialism or constant sell.
Use your own decisions in life and vote with your wallet. Just don't listen to their marketing BS because this time next year, it'll be thrown out of the window by the newest and greatest and in five years time it'll have no software updates and considered obsolete.

Only you can decide.
 

The Game 161

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A pro machine cannot have 64 gb of storage.

A pro machine cannot have 4 gb of ram.

A pro machine cannot have a lightning port.

iPhone Pro = iPhone Deluxe.

They should stop calling it the iPhone Pro(fessional).
Too bad your opinion doesn’t matter as you don’t decide the names for these phones.

Stop taking the phone names so seriously.
 

ericwn

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A pro machine cannot have 64 gb of storage.

A pro machine cannot have 4 gb of ram.

A pro machine cannot have a lightning port.

iPhone Pro = iPhone Deluxe.

They should stop calling it the iPhone Pro(fessional).
Oh the joy. Years after the appearance of the first pro called device and people are still struggling with the fact that it’s just a marketing name?

They can anything Pro as long as there is no definition for these three letters. But the desired effect was achieved, people start to discuss the product all over again, so good job Apple marketing.
 
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Oohara

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You are taking marketing bs way too seriously. Take a break and ignore the “true definition” of “pro” moniker.
And, Apple is hands down the best marketing company in the world, period. Just FYI.
Marketing is essentially a career when people can legally spread lies, after all.
Yep, their brand management is just out of this world. Honestly I can't think of another company that even comes close. Now and then I'll feel quite repulsed by their ability to get away with prices that sometimes are frankly cynical considering what they actually give you in return ($1000 for 64GB RAM on the iPhone 11 Pro, and $150 to bump that up to the next tier??), but at the same time I can't help but admire the skill that makes it possible for them to do that. And I can't complain about the quality of their products. Also there, if you consider hardware and softare + services as a whole, they just can't be beat.

So yeah, "Pro" might be a bit of a rip. But it kinda comes with the territory. And we all have the option to just not buy into it.
 
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