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Steviejobz

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Every reviewer is scoring the 6+ negatively for size reasons. Do they ding the 15" MBP because it fits in fewer backpacks vs. the 13"?

They should review the phone not the form and let consumers pick what works for them given budget, usage, etc.

This is the first time Apple has given users a choice and I think the reviewers aren't quite sure how to handle it.
 
I ordered a 6+ and I would probably score the 6+ slightly lower than the 6 too if they were both similar performance wise.

If I was scoring it as a phone, because it's bulkier.

I don't see the 6+ that way however. It's definitely a Phablet. The 6 is too small to be considered a Phablet.

Different products for different people in my eyes.
 
That is precisely my point. It's a different class of device meant for a different audience.
 
Agree.

Giving the 6 Plus negative marks because it is a bigger phone is like giving a PS4 a downgraded score because it doesn't play Xbox One games.

People know the 6 Plus is bigger, and that is WHY we are buying it. How can that be a negative? It's a know fact!
 
That is precisely my point. It's a different class of device meant for a different audience.

Same class, just different type of model. If it was a different class, they would of called it iPhablet or something. They are reviewing them what we have been accustomed to for the last several years. Over time I think the scale would change to the plus model. But it being a new model, it's going to met with some friction.
 
People want to know if it's usable day to day as a phone. The reviewers are doing a good job of stating that it is not.

Apple already has tablets in multiple sizes... The iPhone is ... wait for it.. A PHONE!
 
Every reviewer is scoring the 6+ negatively for size reasons. Do they ding the 15" MBP because it fits in fewer backpacks vs. the 13"?

They should review the phone not the form and let consumers pick what works for them given budget, usage, etc.

This is the first time Apple has given users a choice and I think the reviewers aren't quite sure how to handle it.

Well it's a phone, there is a finite size for usefulness as a phone. Wouldn't you dock the iPad Mini for its size if it were advertised as a phone?
 
People want to know if it's usable day to day as a phone. The reviewers are doing a good job of stating that it is not.

Apple already has tablets in multiple sizes... The iPhone is ... wait for it.. A PHONE!

Really? The larger iPhone is not a "usable" day to day phone? What the heck do you think the millions of Samsung Galaxy users are using??? Their phones are 5.5" to 5.7" and they are all over the place.

How is a 5.5" screen phone not a "usable" phone when people are already using a larger phone?
 
Every reviewer is scoring the 6+ negatively for size reasons. Do they ding the 15" MBP because it fits in fewer backpacks vs. the 13"?

They should review the phone not the form and let consumers pick what works for them given budget, usage, etc.

This is the first time Apple has given users a choice and I think the reviewers aren't quite sure how to handle it.

Because the 6+ is massive, larger than many of its rival phablets with similarly sized screens, and it affects the usability of the thing AS A PHONE; ie, a device that should be very portable. Unless you use it as a tablet (two hands all the time), the size will occasionally be cumbersome.

I think dinging a 17" desktop replacement laptop would be equally justified. There is a general form with product categories, and size is included. A 7" screen with calling capabilities does not suggest the form of a phone, neither does a 20" clamshell device suggest the form of a laptop. They might be great for some people but less convenient and more troublesome for others.
 
To be fair, reviewers do the same with any extra large phone (which is what the 6+ is). I'm not sure if I agree with it or not, but at least they're consistent :)
 
I love how you all are trying to make yourselves feel better when you are really regretting purchasing the 6 Plus. Between the delays in shipping being longer and longer, and pretty much all the reviews I read knocking it left and right, I don't blame you for trying to justify a mistake purchase. So happy I went with the 6!
 
People want to know if it's usable day to day as a phone. The reviewers are doing a good job of stating that it is not.

Apple already has tablets in multiple sizes... The iPhone is ... wait for it.. A PHONE!

Even the smaller iPhone 4 has more functionality in common with a tablet computer than it does with a phone. Making calls is the very least of it's abilities.

In fact, if someone told me they were buying a $600+ gadget just to make calls.

I'd think they were silly.
 
Every reviewer is scoring the 6+ negatively for size reasons. Do they ding the 15" MBP because it fits in fewer backpacks vs. the 13"?

They should review the phone not the form and let consumers pick what works for them given budget, usage, etc.

This is the first time Apple has given users a choice and I think the reviewers aren't quite sure how to handle it.

Uhh, the whole point of reviews is to get the reviewers OPINIONS and PERSPECTIVE. If your contention is otherwise, then just put specs up on a sheet and there is your 'review'. You seem like you are angry that most reviewers find the 6+ to be a bit to big to be a daily phone for them. Don't let it cause undo high blood pressure, it's just not worth it.

With that said, I don't care what the reviews say and in no way influence my choice of the 6+ but they are nice to get a different view as well.
 
Really? The larger iPhone is not a "usable" day to day phone? What the heck do you think the millions of Samsung Galaxy users are using??? Their phones are 5.5" to 5.7" and they are all over the place.

How is a 5.5" screen phone not a "usable" phone when people are already using a larger phone?

As someone who bought a 6+, I can totally understand why they dinged it for its size. Look at how tall the top and bottom bezels make the phone, unnecessarily. Let's not blind ourselves to the reality that the phone has some odd design choices, even though we want and bought the thing.

I mean, it's taller that the Note 3 but has less screen real estate. Should that be worth getting a full rating for?

I think that the reviews for the 6 and 6+ have been amazingly positive and I am incredibly psyched to get my phone. Don't let one issue where people reasonably disagree get you so worked up.

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I love how you all are trying to make yourselves feel better when you are really regretting purchasing the 6 Plus. Between the delays in shipping being longer and longer, and pretty much all the reviews I read knocking it left and right, I don't blame you for trying to justify a mistake purchase. So happy I went with the 6!

Pot, meet Kettle. He'd like a word with you about your blackness.
 
People want to know if it's usable day to day as a phone. The reviewers are doing a good job of stating that it is not.

Apple already has tablets in multiple sizes... The iPhone is ... wait for it.. A PHONE!

that's what the reviewers are lacking when doing these reviews.....

it's 2014, if you want just a phone...go by a flip phone. These are so much more than just a phone. So to sit back and say it's too big for a PHONE only....yes it is. But they don't state that if you use your device less and less like a phone and more like a little portable computer in your pocket...then it'd be great.
 
I don't know if they are morons, but what I know is that they are basing their opinion on actually using the phone for a few days whereas yours is based on pictures/specs and what you think it will feel like.
 
Really? The larger iPhone is not a "usable" day to day phone? What the heck do you think the millions of Samsung Galaxy users are using??? Their phones are 5.5" to 5.7" and they are all over the place.

How is a 5.5" screen phone not a "usable" phone when people are already using a larger phone?

The Galaxy phones are 5" ... but most reviewers also agree that the Note phones are too large as well. The 5.5" market is much smaller than the 4.7"-5" market.

Obviously, people make sacrifices and use the devices as phones. Does that mean that it appeals to the masses? No. Does that mean that the form factor is right for a phone? No.

Again, you want a phablet. Great. Enjoy your phablet. Many (arguably, most) other people want a phone.

Not that it matters, but I spend roughly 4 hours/day TALKING on my phone and the other 8 or so processing emails, calendar and goofing off. For me, it has to function as a phone... and that's the point. I get to have all of these devices in one portable easy to use device. When I want to read in bed or play Clash of Clans, I break out the iPad Mini. Again, for me. You have a different use case, and that's great. Apparently the reviewers have a use case that is more similar to mine than yours.

Don't feel slighted because they didn't appreciate the size of the device that you chose. Sheesh.
 
Same class, just different type of model. If it was a different class, they would of called it iPhablet or something. They are reviewing them what we have been accustomed to for the last several years. Over time I think the scale would change to the plus model. But it being a new model, it's going to met with some friction.

They are calling it the "Plus" for a reason. Someone looking at scores along might think it is less of a device. But the only difference is size which can have benefits and drawbacks. If it had a worse camera or some feature then I can understand the lower rating. But size is a personal choice and not one that needs reviewing.
 
Everyone talking about the "abilities" go far beyond "just a phone"...

It's important to remember that for lots of people, the "phone" does indeed get used a TON.

For those people, not getting a new flagship 4" device (along with these bigger models) is a bummer.
 
You know... the physical size of an everyday phone actually does play into reviews.
 
Every reviewer is scoring the 6+ negatively for size reasons. Do they ding the 15" MBP because it fits in fewer backpacks vs. the 13"?

How many packpacks are you aware of that fir a 13" but not a 15" laptop? This comparison simply doesn't work.

If a reviewer doesn't like the size of the phone, he doesn't like the size of the phone.

I don't put too much stock into a reviewer's opinions anyway. I recently watched reviews for various compact SUVS. The Honda CRV got some of the worst reviews from most car enthusiasts. I enjoyed the drive of that the best (considering I am buying it as transport for my infant son, I wanted a quiet and smooth ride).

Different folks have different opinions. If everyone was saying "going from 4" to 5.5" is not even noticeable", an equal number (if not more) of people would be upset stating that they fed them BS since the differences are massive. All a reviewer can do is give their personal opinion, as unbiased as they possibly can be.
 
that's what the reviewers are lacking when doing these reviews.....

it's 2014, if you want just a phone...go by a flip phone. These are so much more than just a phone. So to sit back and say it's too big for a PHONE only....yes it is. But they don't state that if you use your device less and less like a phone and more like a little portable computer in your pocket...then it'd be great.

No, that's what the people here are lacking. It's a SmartPHONE. If it doesn't perform the critical function of being a phone well, then it has failed. Yes, it does lots of other things. But first and foremost, it must be a phone. There are other devices that already take care of those other things if that's what you're looking for... and they do it much better.

The Phablet idea is not good at either. It's not as good as an iPad Mini at being an iPad and it's not as good as a smaller phone at being a phone. I think that is the point that many of the reviewers are getting at.
 
I love how you all are trying to make yourselves feel better when you are really regretting purchasing the 6 Plus. Between the delays in shipping being longer and longer, and pretty much all the reviews I read knocking it left and right, I don't blame you for trying to justify a mistake purchase. So happy I went with the 6!

Very immature comment. If anyone is making themselves feel better it is you based on the last sentence of your comment.
 
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