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Professional Mac Users' Complaints List Grows After 'Disappointing' Apple Event
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I don't even know where to start...
I remember when the uni-body design came out. all the ports were on one side. I can't say that was coincidence, I'm sure Steve had something to do with that.
I didn't mind the retina versions but hated that ports were all over the place.
With the newest release: I love that it's thunderbolt 3 but I just hate the gap they left where mag safe should've been. and not to mention the placement of the audio jack.
I would've been much happier if they removed the audio jack all together, if they were bold enough to keep the jack they could've easily kept MagSafe 2.
here is my take on it.
I remember when the uni-body design came out. all the ports were on one side. I can't say that was coincidence, I'm sure Steve had something to do with that.
I didn't mind the retina versions but hated that ports were all over the place.
With the newest release: I love that it's thunderbolt 3 but I just hate the gap they left where mag safe should've been. and not to mention the placement of the audio jack.
I would've been much happier if they removed the audio jack all together, if they were bold enough to keep the jack they could've easily kept MagSafe 2.
here is my take on it.
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Different opinion is one thing. But whining and moaning constantly and claiming that a company is doomed based on a presentation of one product, well that's different that just having a different opinion.
And for the iPhone thing, I remember complaining in this board way back about iTunes syncing, and everybody bashed me and went out of the woods claiming that they never need to plug their iPhone to their computers. Yet now it's an issue?
Agreed - but also think it's a chicken/egg thing. I think that if Apple really did concentrate on their computer line, it could be more profitable and grow marketshare. It's just never really been their thing. Naturally they like to make certain margins on all of their devices and services. That's great but also a leash.
It's not unusable for everyone but it depends what you need from it. Photographers would probably be fine (although the amount of required dongles would be a pain) but for video it barely meets the current recommended specs for avid and Adobe (doesn't meet Avid's for UHD) and lacks the connectivity required to be used in a proper setup.
My company for years has used MacBooks as our DIT stations (basically the backup and transcoding machines) but this wouldn't cut it. You need at least 1 if not 2 external monitors (to check sync and cut quick dailies), power, and external drive / peripheral space. I don't see those 4 ports being able to connect all that; even if they can it would require a mountain of dongles that are a nightmare to have on set.
I believe that for video editing this is less for large scale productions and more for web stuff. If you are creating YouTube videos in FCP X it would probably do fine. If you are creating content for broadcast it wouldn't be usable for most levels of the production.
exactly. it's just kinda unclever to first take way upgradability from users and then even not offering them the paid alternative ;-) as some others have pointed out already, people (including myself) have been using 16GB ram since cMBP 2011 and i've also been running two SSD's in raid-0 since 2011. - it's kinda sad but amusing me that those 2011 machines are STILL comparable performance-wise to the top of the line macbook, sold for 4999 Euros (wtf?!).
the problem seems that Apple has reached a point where it's just becoming ridiculous. while design and portability are great, the #1 reason for many people buying expensive apple notebooks is they are actually working on it and it's okay for many of us to spend good money for a good product. the latest offerings apple did is insulting and questioning our intelligence ... apple did and will receive further bills for that.
That's interesting, I am actually polar opposite on that piece of tech.
While I liked the old fashioned glass trackpad, it had it's share of limitations / problems that I don't miss. First off, the "click" function was progressively harder to engage the further up you went on the pad (I assume it was hinged at the top), which was frustrating when dragging something up and needed to click. Secondly, as they aged, the click function actually started to wear out (at least on my copies), making it harder to click at the bottom edges, with the lower middle being far too sensitive.
Due to these reasons I often enabled the touch to click (or whatever it is called), removing the need to actually click the touchpad. Sadly, this caused spurious inputs from my palm at times, and required me to relearn how to use a trackpad. I absolutely love the trackpad on my 2015 rMBP, and with gestures I tend to use in video / photo editing, can see a great use for a larger track pad. Too bad the Apple Pencil doesn't work with it though!
Yes, I am definitely not arguing 16GB is enough for every single professional who depends on the Mac for their professional living. I just happen to believe it's enough for the vast majority of people who want to buy a MBP.
Apple has explained why they have chosen to limit them to 16GB because they value battery life in these portables as much as anything. If this isn't an acceptable compromise for you, then regrettably you're going to have to go buy another laptop probably running Windows. Apple has made their decisions for this year, and now you have to make your own decisions.
There are definitely other companies who are very happy to compromise on reduced battery life for higher performance, so probably you should be looking to do business with one of these.
There is a market for the stuff you want, unfortunately it just isn't big enough for Apple to prioritise it over other things.
"16GB should be enough for everyone" - Tim Cook, 2016.
In the past, a faster processor made a significant difference. Now it is not just about speed. Efficiency is king. A processor that requires as little resources as possible to drive everything is important. Speed isn't the driver anymore.
The battery needs to drive better, faster ports, brighter screens and do it for as long as possible. If the processor is sucking all of the juice, then nothing else can work as well.
If I plug in an external monitor and that same cord can also charge the laptop, that's one less cord I need and one more port I can use.
That touch bar adds screen real estate and provide shortcuts that mean my fingers never need to leave the keyboard. That's a big advancement. Shortcut keys have been around for years but we haven't had multi touch short cuts on the keyboard before.
With the cloud and wireless connectivity, most of the content I keep is not local to the laptop. Bigger isn't always better. Those days are behind us.
I think the 15 inch MacBook Pro is the best laptop on the market right now.
The battery needs to drive better, faster ports, brighter screens and do it for as long as possible. If the processor is sucking all of the juice, then nothing else can work as well.
If I plug in an external monitor and that same cord can also charge the laptop, that's one less cord I need and one more port I can use.
That touch bar adds screen real estate and provide shortcuts that mean my fingers never need to leave the keyboard. That's a big advancement. Shortcut keys have been around for years but we haven't had multi touch short cuts on the keyboard before.
With the cloud and wireless connectivity, most of the content I keep is not local to the laptop. Bigger isn't always better. Those days are behind us.
I think the 15 inch MacBook Pro is the best laptop on the market right now.
When your computer means your livelihood and you have clients breathing down your neck you don't exactly want to trust a computer that isn't stable. Hackintosh, as the name implies, is a hack. If something like a software update bricks your computer you are dead in the water.
Have you used the new MacBook? Is the software performance lacking because of RAM? Or is the software optimized for the hardware in such a way that it is efficient? I ask because tech sites usually get caught up with specs when actual performance matters more.
If you are on an ADSL line that 5GB upload might take more than 10 hours. Perhaps a bit less if you are on VDSL or fibre. I'm sure it would be easier to hand the thumb drive to the person working in the same office, or even courier it across town.
This is quite a common scenario for a contractor working on site when you don't share the same LAN as the client.
They say its the worst ever every time Apple innovates with their MacBook lines. It's not worse or better than it was before. it's the same. In a, iteration or two people will forget all about it. I wouldn't be shocked if these new MacBook sold better than the previous ones.
I don't agree on the new increased prices either, but GBP has lost around 30% value since you purchased your 2014 MBP and contributes largely to the price difference.
But since the Skylake chips only support 16GB LPDDR RAM which is the kind that Apple uses(something that was known before the keynote), what did they really expect?
You can't expect Apple to make a entire separate logic board to support regular DDR Ram )which comes at the expense of battery life) just for the small group that wants 32gb?
Yes I use MacBooks and Mac Pro at work daily, and it already happened to need more than 16 gb ram.... it happens if you do some "pro" work.
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I don't know / care if it is the software that is not optimized (as it won't change the need for more) I know that having more RAM makes the issue less frequent!
OK so the definition of pro in 2016 is 32GB RAM. Good to know. Then the base model Surface Studio which has a core i5 and 8GB dGPU for $3,000 is not a pro machine. Neither is the core i7 16BB dGPU model at $3,500. If you want a pro Surface Studio you need to spend $4,200 for the 32GB model.
So....with Phil Schiller stating Apple has gotten their highest number of pre-orders ever for Macbook Pros....can we admit that most of the outrage is from nerd rage forum dwellers? Seems like the "Pros" who aren't tech enthusiasts (and instead....just do their work) aren't all that discouraged. Or, perhaps, the MBP's main user base is consumers who aren't bothered either?
You should watch Steve Jobs announcing the Macbook Air, and his vision on how laptops are going to be. And then his talk about trucks and cars. It's the same Steve Jobs, mind you. He is still visionary, as he can adapt and evolve his vision along with the technology, and not clinging to old mindsets just because it's nostalgia.
I wasn't saying whether they were right or wrong, just answering the question.