I think you need to re-read your own original post. You mentioned how Microsoft did not call the Surface Studio as a "Pro."
Well, they do have a "Pro" lineup called Surface Pro. Get it? Are their "Pro" lineup meets your "Pro" requirements?
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Well, they do have a "Pro" lineup called Surface Pro. Get it? Are their "Pro" lineup meets your "Pro" requirements?
What I don't like about companies are excuses. I remember when Apple kept making excuses for keeping 16gb storage for so long while knowing that it is ridiculous. Maybe it's just greed
The Verge is a lifestyle website. It shouldn't be mentioned in any tech-related discussions.
Part of me thinks Apple should just spin off the Mac into a separate company. It's obviously not their highest priority and I think the future for consumers and prosumers will be iPad. The Mac will become a niche of a niche only for people that need as much power and as many ports as possible and don't give a flying --- about battery life or weight.
Sorry 32GB doesn't exist for pro laptops. It does exist for desktop machines.
On the contrary. The fact is, the people you say are living in the past, are the very people making the content you and your family love (or hate) to consume. Creatives and professionals push the boundaries of what's possible. We adopt new technology where it can help us. However, a lot of the content creation still requires brute force hardware. Power, control and finesse that the iToys simply cannot provide. That's why high end traditional computers still are needed.
They appear to be more of a niche than they really are because most of the heavy metal is hidden away in server rooms, tucked away underneath artists' desks, out of sight. You don't see them like you see iToys on the street everywhere. So make no mistake, the need for powerful conventional computing is still very much there. If Apple genuinely isn't interested in catering to that market segment, then so be it. Artists will eventually have to elsewhere (many are). But for 15-20 years or more, Apple has always been there for us creatives with the Mac and OSX, and we love the Mac because of that. You cannot expect us to simply turn our backs without a fight. Let us air our grievances and hope Apple takes note. Show some compassion if you can muster it.
"Good enough for almost all kinds of iOS software development"
I would like to ask you to rethink what you just said.
"Good enough"..."good enough"...
Most fanboys/fangirls don't will defend Apple no matter what...
I think you need to re-read my own original post.
Surface Studio
and
Surface Pro
2 different products, I was talking about the first one!
So it is right ...they have a Surface Pro but not a Surface Studio Pro
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The Surface Pro is a Pro convertible, hardly a pro machine by itself anyway, just a marketing gimmick, like Apple is doing.... wrong in both cases!
I consider myself a "pro" (I'm a software developer), and I'm pretty excited about this update. I'll be replacing a 15" MBP that I've been using actively since 2010 - almost 7 years. I'm certainly not going to whine about a minor price bump if I get another 7 years out of my next Mac.
That would be for you to decide. But I do think it's another reason why Apple isn't pushing out Mac refreshes anymore with new Intel chipsets because the performance gains are not very significant. My late 2013 MBP is no slouch in comparison to what I can get from the very fastest laptop CPU's available today. I definitely don't need to upgrade, but I do want to.
Build a hackintosh for $1000-1200 that works completely out of the box. https://www.tonymacx86.com/buyersguide/october/2016#CustoMac_Pro would cost you maybe $1200.
I think a lot of people are in the same boat as me: I am coming from a succession of maxed spec macbook pros over the last 9 years. I am currently on a late 2013, 2.6ghz, 16gb retina machine. I had eagerly awaited this event because I was looking to upgrade.
I like the new macbook pro, was excited by the concept of a touch bar and wasn't even too fussed about the changing of ports. I won't be upgrading to this newest machine though. The spec increase is marginal: +0.3ghz on processer, 0gb on ram (2016 MBP has faster ram though) and +2gb on graphics card vram (I'd have preferred an nvidia card though). It's a paltry upgrade for a 3 year old machine. Certainly not worth shelling out the current price of £3000, which is a huge increase on the previous machine's price. (For the inevitable commenters who will mention the pounds value dropping - check the prices on the apple's european websites too, they are equally astronomical)
Either I'll wait until the price drops or until they release some more powerful machines.
I like the new macbook pro, was excited by the concept of a touch bar and wasn't even too fussed about the changing of ports. I won't be upgrading to this newest machine though. The spec increase is marginal: +0.3ghz on processer, 0gb on ram (2016 MBP has faster ram though) and +2gb on graphics card vram (I'd have preferred an nvidia card though). It's a paltry upgrade for a 3 year old machine. Certainly not worth shelling out the current price of £3000, which is a huge increase on the previous machine's price. (For the inevitable commenters who will mention the pounds value dropping - check the prices on the apple's european websites too, they are equally astronomical)
Either I'll wait until the price drops or until they release some more powerful machines.
And we'll all be singing a different tune in January when the Mac Pro is updated.
I seriously question the "professionalism" of a "pro" that is upgrading their gear year to year. That sounds like more of a tech enthusiast than someone focused on actually getting work done. Hell, other than independent professionals most pros use the workstation their work provides them which these days tend to be on 3-4 year leases.
The Mac line alone makes almost half as much money as all of Pepsi Cola in a given year. It's not going anywhere.
Corporate campuses have firewalls that lock out sites like Dropbox and you are working with people who have PC laptops. Not everyone in the world has iOS or Mac OS. I've used a thumb drive a million times for those reasons. It takes very little time to use those thumb drives compared to trying to transfer over the network.
I guess it depends on who they are marketing a Pro laptop to. Most pros I know are graphics, photography, video pros. If they have a laptop, it's to take to a set, or take to a client's office where they are working at for the day. All of those situations have them plugging their laptop into the wall for power. I'm not really sure what the demand is for doing 3D animation work while flying on a plane using the battery.
So it's all about the speed of the CPU and GPU and how much video RAM and RAM you have.
These people are not going to sites with Thunderbolt 3 monitors. That situation, I'm guessing, is I have that monitor on my desk in my studio and then I need to take my Mac Pro with me to a client's or on set for a photo shoot or commercial shoot, film shoot, etc. So I don't really care on my desk if I'm charging my laptop with my monitor. Seems like a silly selling point, to me personally.
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I wonder if anyone from Apple, who actually has a saying on the company's decisions and direction, go through forums or read the comments section of tech articles and sees posts likes this. I really hope so....
A huge part of the issue is that many people don't understand how product development works.
Laptops are now fully in the maturity phase. My iMac from 10 years ago has 6GB of RAM, and both of my modern, high-end laptops have 8GB RAM. Processor development is largely flat. The number of people who need more than 16GB of RAM is absolutely tiny compared to the number of people who will appreciate a lighter laptop with good battery life. That's a reasonable trade-off for Apple to make.
You are living as if it's still 1999.
As a software engineer myself, you are just living in the past. I've never needed more than 16GB of ram to date. Adobe and others don't have any other option than to make software for 16GB of ram in the machine. There is not going to be an update in laptop processors for some time. We just have to live with the reality of physics. I know you want Apple to defy the laws of physics but it's simply not possible right now. All notebooks are being limited by the 16GB constraints.
I hate to break it to you, but RAM really isn't that important anymore, as it was in the age of spinning disks. And we've always only bought RAM because of its speed compared to mass storage, not because of its size. And that was only to quickly feed the CPU with data to compute on. So there is absolutely no point in discussing memory without discussing the whole system performance. Just look at Geekbench to check your 'no improvement in over six years' statement!
It's a sarcastic remark.
The Verge is filled with hipsters that claimed they are techies just because they have iPhones. Their "reviews" of products are quite low level compared to real tech sites like ars. Also, the Verge have posted wrong specs and information and refused to admit it. So I don't consider them as a technology website anymore.
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Pro laptops now support 64GiB.
32GiB support starts with $500 laptops.
Since over a year ago.
It is impossible for Apple to build a product that does absolutely everything every single person wants. Apple themselves admit they have to make compromises to achieve weight reduction, thinness, and good battery life. You have to decide whether those compromises are acceptable according to your own needs. If the compromises are no good for you, I'm afraid you'll have to go buy another product. No amount of ranting on MR 24x7x365 is going to make Apple care about your specific needs and wants. Apple is always going to be about servicing the needs of the bigger majority.