Proposed Tariffs Will Impact Apple Watch, AirPods, HomePod, Mac Mini and More

[AgentAnonymous]

Tariffs may be useful as a negotiating tactic, but long term just foolish. They often just put money in the hands of powerful corporations or lobbies- the best example being sugar. Lets hope they are brief and result in more free trade deals.

They're not "foolish" at all longterm. The other option is continuing to let China flood our market with cheap crap, pushing out local manufacturers, while engaging in extreme one-sided protectionism and locking Americans out of the Chinese market or offering access to their market in exchange for giving up intellectual property. It's hypocritical. Everything from China should be tariffed until China is willing to engage in mutual free and fair trade with us, and until China is willing to stop the government sanctioned theft of American intellectual property. People don't realize that consumers may pay a bit more for products from China, but the Chinese economy gets severely hurt in exchange.

If you're not willing to pay a bit more to stop China from taking over the world at your own expense, then you deserve for your country to be overtaken.

 

[budselectjr]

False. Or, rather, it's still a net loss, as offshoring grew even faster and that trend is expected to increase with the stupid tariffs.

https://www.atkearney.com/operation...rmation/article?/a/reshoring-in-reverse-again

You didn't even read what you posted LOL. Doesn't even mention jobs but is just some "index" based on imports from certain counties vs US manufacturing. Nice try but wrong again.

 

[skitidetdu]

Tariffs may be useful as a negotiating tactic, but long term just foolish. They often just put money in the hands of powerful corporations or lobbies- the best example being sugar. Lets hope they are brief and result in more free trade deals.

So tired of Trump and his dick measuring politics
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If you're not willing to pay a bit more to stop China from taking over the world at your own expense, then you deserve for your country to be overtaken.[/SIZE]

Maybe that is too late to stop by now?

 

[dilbert99]

When the US imposes tariffs on imported Apple goods, is it on the retail price of the iPhone?
I see that the US is not listing the iPhone as one of the devices that the tariff is being imposed on.
Also does that mean that prices of those devices will be more expensive in the US compared to those overseas because they won't have that tariff applied (with the incorrect assumption that Apple goods are the same price the world over after taking exchange rates and local taxes in to account)

 

[Wando64]

Tim Cook must be really distressed by the thought that Apple will only make $40 per dongle instead of $45.

In all seriousness, Apple under Tim Cook will pass this onto the customer so hopefully it is just a negation tool towards a better trade deal.

If Apple could have sold goods more expensively they would have done it already.
People (you too) are only willing to spend so much for something, then the equation breaks down.

When you say “better trade deal” I assume you mean, for the US?
Good luck with that.

It is a big world out there, and a good start would be to hope for a fairer deal for everybody.

 

[tallscot]

American workers should be making Apple products and jumping off buildings because of poor working conditions and slave labor wages. Not foreigners.

 

[Appleaker]

EVERY company will increase the price of their products relative to the tariff.

The only losers are the American people.

The idea of a tariff is to increase the price of foreign imported items so that American companies can compete. It works for very similarly priced products, but because manufacturing is so much cheaper in China, the prices are just too far out of whack.

For example, if I want to buy an American-made plastic chair, I'll pay $30. The same Chinese-made plastic chair is $5. After the tariff, the Chinese-made plastic chair will be $7. This won't influence any people to buy the American-made version, it will just take $2 out of everyone's pockets.

I understand the idea of a tariff, but what you’re saying isn’t true. The cost will increase for every company, that does not mean they will increase the prices to compensate. If they want to retain the margin (likely increase it in Apples case) and/or to show to consumers what the impact of the tariff is, but it is a consumer hostile move and does not have to be done in every case since the difference is negligible. That’s why I only mentioned ‘dongles’, they are not sold anywhere near cost and they are not products that have to be increased, but Tim Cook would probably do it. Generally, Apples margins can handle the tariff but of course with some products, the case is different and it wouldn’t be wise to retain the same pricing.

 

[Mackan]

Generally, Apples margins can handle the tariff but of course with some products, the case is different and it wouldn’t be wise to retain the same pricing.

Even if Apple's margins easily can handle it, there is nothing more important for Tim Cook than to retain profit margins, and keep the stock price growing. So, the consumer has to take the cost unless it becomes clear that Apple price themselves out of the market, which so far seems to be a non-issue.

Also, once it's proven that a certain price level is "accepted" by the consumers, a company will often try to keep it at that level (even if tariffs are removed later, etc). It's a wonderful world.

 

[GuruZac]

So what’s the answer then? Keep gettting screwed by China who is screwing everyone? Leave the status quo? You may not like Trump, but someone had to confront the disastrous trade policies we’ve had for so long.

 

[Appleaker]

If Apple could have sold goods more expensively they would have done it already.
People (you too) are only willing to spend so much for something, then the equation breaks down.

When you say “better trade deal” I assume you mean, for the US?
Good luck with that.

It is a big world out there, and a good start would be to hope for a fairer deal for everybody.

Yes, I understand price elasticity, it was just a snide remark towards Apples margins on some of their products, there’s no need to look too far into it as people seem to be doing.

 

[mrzz]

25%+ tax for every appl product would be interesting so then US can finally enjoy the same prices as majority of people outside US. Then they will finally realize how affordable are prices of all the appl product for almost everyone outside US

 

[cube]

It does not matter if you live in another country as long as Apple does not use this as wrong excuse to raise prices elsewhere.

 

[cwanja]

He has rescued America from the swamp and put it in the sewer.

Are you kidding me? He has had more turnover in his own administration than he has done in the "swamp".

Lol

Ain’t gonna be no blue wave tsunami in the midterms cause the price of homepods and the watch is going up.

Wishful thinking my dude

... are you Tim Cook?

You are WAY too narrowly focused on this specific thread when the post you quoted was looking more holistically.

 

[cube]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign-trade_zones_of_the_United_States

 

[Rogifan]

So Trump admits his stupid tarrifs will raise prices then absurdly says Apple can avoid it by making their stuff here. What a delusional moron he is.

 

[cwanja]

Economics is clearly not his strong suit. Nor anyones in Washington D.C. for that matter.

So Trump admits his stupid tarrifs will raise prices then absurdly says Apple can avoid it by making their stuff here. What a delusional moron he is.

 

[jonnysods]

Wouldn’t that be something?

Something with the fruit logo on it, made in America. Even if just watch bands and accessories

...aside from the Mac
Pro trash bin that was
Assembled in Austin for PR
purposes for the dozens of people who bought them years ago

I'm a big fan of manufacturing. The nation can't be white collar jobs and service industry work. I'm in Canada and and manufacturing is way down, to the detriment of our economy.

 

[GermanSuplex]

The whole human rights, "slave labor", etc. is an argument worth having, but for the immediate being...

If Apple builds their goods here, they will cost more. So either way, Trump is demanding American's pay more for their goods. This runs opposite his "America First" slogan, which was always crap either way, because if he cared about America, he'd keep hawking his ties and tacky buildings instead of burgeoning us with his lousy, historically horrible presidency.

How people rag on Obamacare but think tariffs aren't 100x a bigger disaster, I'll never know.

We have grown accustomed to products being manufactured overseas and cheap consumer goods for years. Apple is a company actually striving to bring jobs back to America; it won't happen overnight. Trump demanding on Twitter they build in America as if they can just open a factory tomorrow and build away is another example of his extreme, pea-brain simplistic view of things.

 

[magicschoolbus]

Good. Move manufacturing elsewhere.

China is a communist expansionist empire who wants to overthrow America off of the world stage entirely.

I try to avoid Chinese made products when I can but it’s almost impossible.

 

[Jack Neill]

Mac Mini prices might go up? Paying ridiculous prices for 5 year old tech isn't bad enough?

 

[trife]

On the potential of Apple passing the cost of tariffs to the customer, it cracks me up to see Trump supporters shame a business for running itself like *gasp* a business. How dare Apple try to protect their bottom line, right?

What happened to letting the market do what it does? After all, this IS the capitalism that you guys love to espouse, right?

Just more typical, hypocritical nonsense from Trump folks. Not surprising in the least.

 

[Wando64]

I try to avoid Chinese made products when I can but it’s almost impossible.

And you think this is China’s fault?
We enjoy ridiculously cheap products by having people abroad working for nothing and you think it is their fault?
Just do what Trump suggests and start producing in the US.
Enjoy.
Good luck.

 

[alexgowers]

This is taxation through the backdoor and it hurts just as much.

 

[lec0rsaire]

People like to blame China but this didn’t start because of China. These people were riding bicycles and walking on foot 30 years ago. First you would have to blame “One China” which established relations with the PRC. Then you would have to blame all of the greedy companies who wanted a much fatter margin. You also can’t leave our own customers out who stopped buying American while it was still possible. Finally, America was happy to take China’s money to finance expensive adventures around the world.

When people buy something, they are essentially voting and they voted for Chinese jobs whether they realized it or not.
[doublepost=1536432315][/doublepost]Yes, Donald supposedly wants people to keep more of their money on the front end but then it’s being taken away on the back end. Great political strategy.

 

[tallscot]

"I'm not an economist in real life, but I play one on message boards".