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Prosser: Sources 'Not Budging' on Claims of New iPad Air and Apple Watch Tomorrow

How come Jon gets all this hate, but completely ridiculous reports from digitimes are completely fine?
These are the guys who said that applewood release a product called “AirPods pro lite.”
I remember all the YouTube tech channels from like 2010-2011 making fun of digitimes. They have never been reliable.
 
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Lounge vibes 05 said:
How come Jon gets all this hate, but completely ridiculous reports from digitimes are completely fine?
These are the guys who said that applewood release a product called “AirPods pro lite.”
I remember all the YouTube tech channels from like 2010-2011 making fun of digitimes. They have never been reliable.
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It is because of his personality. I am not defending him, but based on his track record alone he is a pretty reliable leaker.

Yes, he is very annoying and thinks very highly of himself, but that has nothing to do with this trade.
 
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Lounge vibes 05 said:
See here’s the thing, it doesn’t matter what you think about Jon’s personality. That has absolutely no relation to how reliable his information is. And while he’s been incorrect about future product features, and distant plans, when he says a solid release date, at least the last several times that he’s done so, he’s always right.
He said that Apple would be releasing some new products the week of March 15. Three days later on Wednesday, March 18, we got the new iPad pros, MacBook airs, and Mac minis.
On Tuesday, March 31, he said the iPhone SE would launch on April 15. Every other website and leaker said he was wrong, but April 15 arrived along with the iPhone SE.
He said a 13 inch MacBook Pro would arrive in May, and wouldn’t you know, it arrived on May 4.
He said the new iMac would not arrive in July as other people were saying, but would come out in August. August 4 came with a new iMac.
So when he says that new watches and iPads are coming on September 8, with an Apple event scheduled for the week of October 12, I tend to believe him. Now if he were to go on and say that they’re going to announce Apple glass, airpower, and all that kind of stuff, then he starts to enter murky territory.
But this release schedule makes complete sense with the restrictions that are currently going on. Almost every series 5 model is completely out of stock, and if it’s true that Apple doesn’t plan to have an event until October, I highly doubt they’re gonna leave the Apple Watch with no supply for an entire month. What would their stockholders say? How would they report Septembers data at their quarterly earnings call, if the watch sold zero units because there were none available?
Of course Apple is not gonna do something stupid like that.
So tomorrow, we’re going to get new iPads and Apple watches.
Then in October, we’ll get new iPhones, AirPods, airtags, and ARM MacBooks, along with whatever other surprises they have up their sleeve.
Also, I have mad props for Mark pre-2019, but over the last year or so, his reporting has become very shaky.
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Of the examples you cited, he predicted one correct date. The others were within a window of a week or month. Is that impressive?
His Apple TV guess of ready to ship in May was a complete bust.

Sure he has sources, but I sense they themselves aren’t so sure, which leads to Prosser seemingly unsure himself.
 
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Jony Ive and Co. said:
This is an ALL-OUT WAR between Jon Prosser and Mark Gurman. The stakes are extremely high and the loser MUST shoulder the full consequences. THIS MEANS WHOEVER IS WRONG TOMORROW MUST HAVE THEIR CREDIBILITY COMPLETELY WIPED TO ZERO, AND THAT PERSON MUST SHAMEFULLY EXIT THE RUMOR MILLS FOREVER - MACRUMORS SHOULD NEVER REPORT ON THAT PERSON EVER AGAIN AS HE WILL HAVE NO CREDIBILITY AT ALL. We cannot and should not allow whoever is wrong tomorrow to keep messing with unreliable rumors on MR in the future, and raising our false hopes. This is simply the stakes of what happens when two so-called leakers try to throw crap on the wall and see what sticks. This approach has no place in the world at all.
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Wow, you feel VERY STRONGLY about this.
 
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Not sure if this is an age thing, but I really don't care as much anymore about rumors. When I was younger, Apple was such a different company and pushing the tech sector with pro-sumer and consumer products.

We know every year there are new products to buy and many times, it's small bumps. Or tech we've seen in the Android phones for example. Honestly I'm only interested in the future of Apple's own chip models. I'm hoping their hardware designs push the envelope to what we have seen in the past 10 years.

So all these dudes with their rumors, I could care less. I mean, during this pandemic time, wouldn't Apple just do another event like we saw a couple of months back? Introduce new products that they normally do at this time of year? Because if the iPad and Watch get a press release only, then there must be nothing to be excited about this year for those products.
 
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Marlon DLTH :) said:
In a few hours we will see how much we can trust in Jon Prosser. If he’s wrong, he’ll lose his credibility.
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And if he’s right, it won’t change anything.
People are still going to bring up the AirPower pictures that he has admitted several times were false.
Or the iPhone OS tweet, despite the fact that the operating system is actually developed under the name iPhone OS, so if he is getting his details from an actual source that is working with inside Apple’s software team, it makes complete sense for them to make a small mistake like that.
literally, the only thing that I can definitively say that has stained his reputation is the Steve Jobs heritage glasses, but even then, we don’t know that he was wrong. As far as we know, they could be developing glasses with a very similar shape and style to Steve’s, and internally they are treating it like a heritage model. I mean, the name of their theater is the Steve Jobs Theater, they have alluded to him several times throughout their keynotes, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they released something that looked similar to his glasses as a little nod to him.
Also, the WWDC hardware thing, but to his credit, everyone else was saying that there would be hardware at WWDC as well. That honestly could have been a last-minute change on Apple‘s part.
 
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Lounge vibes 05 said:
And if he’s right, it won’t change anything.
People are still going to bring up the AirPower pictures that he has admitted several times were false.
Or the iPhone OS tweet, despite the fact that the operating system is actually developed under the name iPhone OS, so if he is getting his details from an actual source that is working with inside Apple’s software team, it makes complete sense for them to make a small mistake like that.
literally, the only thing that I can definitively say that has stained his reputation is the Steve Jobs heritage glasses, but even then, we don’t know that he was wrong. As far as we know, they could be developing glasses with a very similar shape and style to Steve’s, and internally they are treating it like a heritage model. I mean, the name of their theater is the Steve Jobs Theater, they have alluded to him several times throughout their keynotes, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they released something that looked similar to his glasses as a little nod to him.
Also, the WWDC hardware thing, but to his credit, everyone else was saying that there would be hardware at WWDC as well. That honestly could have been a last-minute change on Apple‘s part.
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this time it’s different. it will mean alot
 
GeoStructural said:
It is because of his personality. I am not defending him, but based on his track record alone he is a pretty reliable leaker.

Yes, he is very annoying and thinks very highly of himself, but that has nothing to do with this trade.
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On the surface, he is.
But as he has explained several times, in podcasts, and interviews, it’s all a character. He’s a comedian first, and a tech journalist second. He has actually gone into detail about how stressful being a leaker can be at times, and how it can really take a tole on your mental health, and how he always has an internal struggle over what he should say, and what he should save for later.
But no one cares about that. People only care about themselves, and all they see is his YT videos where hes lewd and rude, and so they paint their own image of him in their head despite never knowing him.
Guess what? You guys don’t know Mark either. He might be a horrible person in real life, you don’t know.
 
GeoStructural said:
Prosser is very unlikable and quite annoying in his videos, but you can’t deny he has been pretty accurate on his leaks.
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What? He Tweeted "iPhone OS" during the keynote. Completely false.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273639086939611136

He then stole an alleged picture of airpower when it was just a knockoff product and he even slapped his name to watermark it. The original source even tweeted at him basically shaming him for stealing his content (now deleted tweet).

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273612718306668544

And there was never an iPhone SE Plus (or as he calls it, iPhone 9 Plus)
https://twitter.com/x/status/1245852864989167616

And the "Steve Jobs Heritage Edition" AR glasses is extremely stupid. Apple would never do something like that. Mark (who has a far better track record) shut it down completely

https://twitter.com/x/status/1263590697073967107


and on and on and on...

Make enough guesses, you're bound to be right, obviously. This is what he's doing.
 
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satchmo said:
Of the examples you cited, he predicted one correct date. The others were within a window of a week or month. Is that impressive?
His Apple TV guess of ready to ship in May was a complete bust.

Sure he has sources, but I sense they themselves aren’t so sure, which leads to Prosser seemingly unsure himself.
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Did you watch the podcast that he put up back in May? He said that an Apple TV with an A12 chip has been ready to ship since early 2019. He never said it would be released then and there. Just like how the AirPods second generation were ready to ship in September 2018, but didn’t until March 2019. Don’t believe me? The back of the AirPods second GEN box literally says copyright 2018, even though it was a 2019 product. Apple has done that before
 
DoctorTech said:
Really seems odd to announce a new Apple Watch by press release but we will find out in a few hours. If he is right, I will be ordering my new Series 6 as soon as Apple starts taking orders :)
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Pandemic makes PR announcements the norm. Web page with technical details and videos to watch is sufficient beyond a PR. Everything has gone virtual. :cool:
 
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