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PS3 - Is it worth it?
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Now that I finally have my PS3, it's resting near my television in the only available spot that I found (it's pretty crowded with the DVD's, the games and all 3 consoles... not very proud of that, too much consumerism, but what am I to do!). So it's on the horizontal.
But I'm moving soon and therefore will have to rearrange all my setup and I was wondering if there were any reported cases (like with the 360) of PS3 dying or simply having problems because it was put in the vertical position?
Thanks again!
But I'm moving soon and therefore will have to rearrange all my setup and I was wondering if there were any reported cases (like with the 360) of PS3 dying or simply having problems because it was put in the vertical position?
Thanks again!
^ Got bored of GTA:IV quickly
To each his own.
Even though pretty much all the missions are essentially the same, it never gets boring. But yeah, you're right, to each his own. I finished the story line and it's still worth replaying.
Shouldn't have any problems, when I first got my PS3 (about two months ago), it was in the vertical position for about two weeks because I was able to get space to place it horizontally. Didn't affect gameplay or movie playback and didn't do any damage to the system. I'm also yet to hear anything about problems from placing it vertically (after all, it's designed to be that way, I guess those 360 owners were just unlucky).
I concur. I'm at 35% and have had the game since release day. The repetitiveness of the missions really bothers me, and it's very boring. The lack of checkpoints also infuriates me, particularly on the longer missions.
I'm a huge Gran Turismo fan, I own every game that has come out of Polyphony Digital including there motorcycle racing game (Tourist Trophy)!
I've never been huge on MGS series until MGS4, thats why I am pretty blown away by the game.
I primarily bought my PS3 for GT5, but that game has gone through delays like expected. So GT5
does the job fine for me. Online play can be an absolute blast! I beat the story in GTAIV and wasn't that blown away or very impressed as I had hoped. So I ended up selling it and picking up MGS4.
He's probably just a mega fan of the MGS series. I'd have bought a Wii for Smash Bros Brawl alone
I'm a huge Gran Turismo fan, I own every game that has come out of Polyphony Digital including there motorcycle racing game (Tourist Trophy)!
I've never been huge on MGS series until MGS4, thats why I am pretty blown away by the game.
I primarily bought my PS3 for GT5, but that game has gone through delays like expected. So GT5
I beat the story in GTAIV and wasn't that blown away or very impressed as I had hoped. So I ended up selling it and picking up MGS4.
Fair do's. I think I owe an appology here. My post comes across a bit ignorant and arrogant doesn't it. You are of course all entitled to buy whatever you want, for whatever reason you want. What's right for you is right for you.
To be honest I've bought plenty of stuff that people could call me out on, especially album CD's which I have a habit of buying for one song only
So yeah! Hands up, sorry guys. Buy your consoles for whatever reason you like and enjoy
I bought mine just for Killzone 2, and it's not even out yet.
Free online play was also a big plus with me. Sure, Xbox Live is fun, but hey - I get the same experience in COD4 for free.
(My friends 360 got the Red Ring of Death, so I'm convincing him to buy a PS3)
Free online play was also a big plus with me. Sure, Xbox Live is fun, but hey - I get the same experience in COD4 for free.
(My friends 360 got the Red Ring of Death, so I'm convincing him to buy a PS3
)SOCOM? You're kidding, right?
SOCOM 1 was good. SOCOM 2 was phenomenal. SOCOM 3 was a sick twisted joke, and "Combined Assault" was proof that Sony and Zipper don't care about their customers at all.
SOCOM should be boycotted by everyone.
MGS4 will have you spend half the game watching rather than playing. Other games like Heavenly Sword are over as soon as they begin, and you have to like mindless hack n' slash anyway. Games like Lair were phenomenal flops. Resistance is okay.
But if you already have an Xbox360 theres no reason to get a PS3, even though I know the OP already bought one.. You already have better games. Gears of War, Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Half-Life 2 (that is actually playable) all mop the floor with PS3 games.
Multi-platform games run better on the Xbox360.
What exclusive games are good on the PS3 anymore? Besides Ratchet and Clank? Final Fantasy? Maybe if they go back to Final Fantasy 6 and remake it without all of the modern anime junk. FF9 was the last good game. FFX was so bad that I literally laughed out loud at many of the stupid story points. X-2 had good gameplay but the story was so girly and out of touch with the series. FF12 was also god awful. The game could have literally had two of the main characters and still been exactly the same.
Gran Turismo? You mean bumper cars? Yeah, we'll see if they actually put car damage in. I loved GT1 and GT2. GT3 was okay, but GT4 was a massive disappointment. GT5P is absolutely hilarious. I mean, I like when you drive backwards on the course and bounce off the cars coming at you. Yeah, GT should have had car damage in GT3. GRID and Forza 2 (with Forza 3 coming up soon) are where the real car fans have gone.
Honestly, Sony 100% blew it with this generation. Terrible hardware that is underpowered and the games are awful. It's amazing how arrogance can make you screw up.
I think Sony did make mistakes this generation but they have no means blown it.
The hardware is certainly not terrible. My god it's probably the most stable of all the current consoles, add built in wireless, HDD and Blu Ray player that is still one of the most competitively priced on the market and you do not have the recipe for 'terrible' hardware. There is certainly an argument that it was overpriced towards the traditional console buying public, when it was first introduced. However subsequent price cuts and bundles have made it probably the best value hardware wise of all of the systems.
The games are again certainly not awful.
Yes a heck of a lot of multi-platform games are better on the 360 (or at least in terms of final graphical finesse) but this seems to be an issue with developers and not the PS3's hardware.
There are admittedly benefits to 360 hardware, specifically that of the ATI scaler chip and the 4XAA that comes with it (at little cost to CPU/GPU and Memory). It certainly is becoming common to see multi-platform titles where the PS3 is not optimized to the hardware and so no AA is employed, and filtering effects and such are often scaled back and their are issues with frame-rate over is competing format.
However if you look directly at first party titles where the PS3 was the Lead development unit, those games are not beset with these problems, and employ just as many shaders, filters and AntiAliasing. Therefore most of those things can be attributed to the porting process and the fact that it is obviously not done properly a lot of the time. (Get the game out on the shelf NOW rather than hold it back to optimize code)
However when sufficient time and developer expertise is given to both formats, then there is graphically very little difference if any. COD4, Vegas 2 etc.
Sony were arrogant when they launched PS3, some of their comments were bad. However they have seemingly listened to criticism, and instead of resting on their laurels have striven to improve, update and address those issues and for the most part they have been very successful in doing so.
The 360 is a great console, but there are just as many flaws (if not more) on its rap sheet that ignoring them is just as complacent and arrogant as you claim sony to be.
Both are great machines, and whichever format you pick - you should be happy and stop spending so much time aiming vitriol at the competitor. Go play your games and chill
...ss! Welcome back!
You do realize that GT5P isn't a full game. Damage is coming soon to the 'demo' and will be a part of the GT5 (the full game, not the prologue). And the real car fans have gone to Grid and Forza? Because if you want cars, go to a game that has fewer cars the GT5 demo. So if you want to go play your arcade racers go ahead, but don't go bashing a game you obviously don't even know.
1. I think your over stating things. 2. That's why I said "has potential".
Some of us love that about the game. To me, I'd rather have a game that allows me to suspend my disbelief than great game play.
Not true. If you have one with out the other, then you are really missing out.
I think we've covered this in this thread already.
Now your just starting to sound like a xbox fan boy. I don't trust any opinion from fan boys not matter which system they support.
Underpowered? Are you f'n kidding me? For all intents and purposes, the 360 and PS3 are overall pretty identical in power. You really have no clue what you are talking about, do you?
Very well said.
Stable? As in hardware? Well, honestly, nobody knows just how well built the PS3 is yet. How can someone say that after the system has been out for almost 2 years now? Look at the software sales. The software attach rate is right around 2.5 games per console sold. Quite simply, the PS3 is being used more as a movie player than a game player.
Combined with the fact that the PS3 online system is more like the PS2 system with some Live features tacked on for good will...
Standard on the Xbox too.
The formats future is uncertain. There were what? 600 Blu-ray discs released in the last year versus nearly 13,000 DVDs. Blu-ray sales have actually FALLEN since the death of HD DVD. Yeah, blu-ray basically means nothing. I'll stick to the upscaling DVD players thank you.
Don't forget that those price cuts have meant FEATURE cuts as well. Where did backwards compatibility go?
If the Xbox360 can do software emulation of the original Xbox, a more powerful machine than the PS2, why can't the almighty PS3 emulate the PS2 and PS1 in software?
The GPUs in both systems are built around similar technology. If they were on equal grounds, there would be absolutely no reason for there to be such a large difference between the two.
Also, far too many PS3 games "look good" by using the Playstation Vasoline Effect© to blur anything that isn't close to the screen or the camera isn't specifically focused on. Look at Killzone 2. The new in-game shots are vastly different than the original demo. In the original demo you can actually make out details on objects farther than 2m from the camera. The actual in-game shots blur everything passed that distance to oblivion and you really can't see a thing.
Well, CoD4 was kind of made for the lowest hardware out there. My GeForce 8400M GS can play it smoothly on max settings after all.
Oh please. I've been playing Gran Turismo since it was first released in the US in 1998. Gran Turismo's car lists have always been bloated by having multiple versions of different rice rockets with only a handful of real cars.
Forza and GRID are far more realistic than Gran Turismo has ever been.
As I've said before, go to the car enthusiast forums on the internet. Ask which racing game people are playing and looking forward to. For the past few years its been Forza. Now its Forza 2, with Forza 3 upcoming, and GRID as the "fun" game.
We'll see if car damage actually makes it into Gran Turismo 5. Sony and Polyphany have flip flopped more than all politicians ever combined when it comes to what features they will or won't include in the GT games.
Look at Gran Turismo 4. We were supposed to have online racing with 6 racers at a full 60fps with an online community with downloadable cars. What did we get? Bumper cars 4.
And now GT5 is supposed to have car damage? Even after the producer clearly said it would never happen because it would take "10,000 man hours per car" to put into the game?
Yeah, right.
I mean, honestly, Gran Turismo is a joke now. It should have had car damage back in Gran Turismo 3.
And the car list? I'm sorry, but forcing me to race TRUCKS and stupid cars like the "Mini" to complete the game? And, in all honesty, its a freakin racing game! I don't need the Model T or every single model Honda has ever made.
GIVE ME REAL RACE CARS!
GIVE ME RACE CARS THAT HANDLE LIKE REAL RACE CARS!
And car damage won't mean jack if they don't do it realistically. For example, damaging the INTERNAL components too, like your engine and transmission.
Oh can we get rid of the cardboard cut out environments too?
Trees aren't made up of 2 polygons. They have leaves.
Even my one PS3 fanboy friend makes fun of the graphics in GT5 because the trees and people are generally all cardboard cutouts and the environments are extremely low detail. His words were that it looks like Gran Turismo 4 with better textures and cars.
Maybe if they handed development over to Infinity Ward. But Zipper? SOCOM was their first respectable game. SOCOM 2 was their last respectable game.
Well, when you have the PS3 you really don't have much of a choice in games you play. The PS3 is pretty much the N64 of this generation. You have to take what you can get.
Well, I can certainly think of better ways to spend $400 than on the PS3.
Well, considering I had Gran Turismo (bought it and a Dual Shock the same day back in '98) long before most of the PS3 owners out there were even old enough to play games... And I have bought every one up until GT5, I have every right to say the series is now a joke.
Well, some developers have compared the GPU in the PS3 to 2 GeForce 5200 FX cards being slapped together as one. Plus the Cell is a joke. It has 1 PPC core running at 3.2GHz with 6 co-processors available to the game. 1 SPE is dedicated to the XMB and 1 is disabled for redundancy so they can sell defective chips. The SPEs are more like a Photoshop users wet dream rather than something thats good for gaming.
I can make up stats too! The PS3 is more stable than the XBox. The XBox has a little problem called Red Ring of Death. It happens to 110% of the consoles out there.
Ok...
And by standard do you mean 20GB standard?
Keep dreaming for a HD-DVD win?
I'll give you the fact that the low end PS3 can't emulate PS2 games, but it CAN play PS1 games. And the high end does both! So half point for you.
Which some people say is the XBox. But I don't know so I'm not going to get into that. They look the same to me.
You keep mentioning GRID in the same paragraph with GT5P. Why? You want cars but choose GRID over GT5P. You want realistic damage but GRID doesn't have realistic damage either. And you want a game that has cars that handle like cars. Well, you can just throw GRID out the window with that one. You must think NFS is more realistic than GT.
You want real race cars? Is the F2007 real enough for you?
And hate to break it to you but there are Minis in Forza too.
And I didn't need a Mini to play GT5P, so I don't know what game you're playing.
You really have no clue at all.
Why do you come into threads about the PS3? People don't go into the XBox threads to bash the XBox. (At least not respectable people.)
Why don't you do us all a favor and leave the Console Forum for good.
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He didn't say that, he said that BluRay sales have been declining since HD-DVD was pronounced dead (don't know if it's true or not).
No it doesn't. I can't go out and buy a PS3 anymore that plays PS2 games. It would have been nice if Sony removed the b/c chip but gave us a 360-style partial software emulation list. Even if it's just a handful of popular games.
How old?
No need to flame. Its clear he really can not make a rational argument, his reply to my post was the icing on an ignorant cake.
I was over-exaggerating a bit with that post.
The PS3 still does emulate most PS2 games though. (Of course regions may vary.)
I know, I really should stop.
I'll try to hold back.Perhaps the OP has already gotten his PS3 but it doesn't mean the question is null and void. There may be lots of people that trying to decide if the PS3 is worth it and can use this thread instead of starting another. Granted there are lots of these thread that start up, eventually die, and a new one is created just to start the process over again.See? Look. That's where this thread should have ended!
To the person who said the 360 can emulate the XBOX.
1. Its very badly, about 50 games actually work, and 2 of them are Halo >.>
2. What games do you want to play that were on XBOX? That system was terrible!
3. The PS3 used to actually have a PS2 Chip inside, then they removed it, but used software emulation, with a roughly 70% Success of the PS2 game working, then the 40Gb had Software emulation removed too, for unknown reasons. All PS3's play PS1 games perfectly.
1. Its very badly, about 50 games actually work, and 2 of them are Halo >.>
2. What games do you want to play that were on XBOX? That system was terrible!
3. The PS3 used to actually have a PS2 Chip inside, then they removed it, but used software emulation, with a roughly 70% Success of the PS2 game working, then the 40Gb had Software emulation removed too, for unknown reasons. All PS3's play PS1 games perfectly.
Looks more like 53 to me.
Oh I dunno, maybe the best GTA3 console experience (or rather the best of multiplatform titles), Panzer Dragoon Orta, Shenmue 2, Fable, Forza, KotoR. They're just the ones I played too. Dare I say Halo (regardless of the poor sequels the first was excellent in terms of gameplay, pacing and story).
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