I can make up stats too! The PS3 is more stable than the XBox. The XBox has a little problem called Red Ring of Death. It happens to 110% of the consoles out there.
Actually, I didn't make up any statistics. Learn how to use google, its your friend. It will show you that there have been roughly 2 to 3 games sold per PS3 so far.
Oh and its "Xbox" not "XBox".
And yeah, the Xbox may have issues with the red ring of death. But you know, the PS and PS2 were notorious for their heat related failures. Microsoft actually stood up and admitted their fault and extended everyones warranty to 3 years for that failure. What did Sony do? Sony had to lose multiple class action lawsuits before being forced to repair systems out of warranty. Again, software sales show that the PS3 isn't being used for games enough to judge its failure rate. But if you go to PS3 forums you'll hear of plenty of PS3s dying.
And by standard do you mean 20GB standard?
At least Microsoft gives you the choice of buying a gimped system. Sony forces it on you by calling it a "price cut"
The funny thing is that Microsoft has NEVER removed features from the Xbox to get the price lower. They've actually added features (the pack-in memory card, HDMI output) while lowering the price.
The Xbox360 Premium has always been around. it started at $399. So yes, it is a "Standard feature". You can choose the system WITHOUT a HDD option.
But, really, what good does the HDD serve anyway? The PS3 wouldn't need it for game installs if they had gone with a high speed DVD drive rather than a snail slow BD-ROM.
Keep dreaming for a HD-DVD win?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9932311-7.html "The NPD Group released some of its retail sales tracking data Wednesday that showed sales of Blu-ray standalone players (not a PlayStation 3, combo player, or PC with Blu-ray drive) had mostly decreased since the beginning of the year."
I don't support HD DVD or blu-ray. Blu-ray has too much draconian DRM and HD DVD didn't have enough support. Plus Blu-ray players are still more expensive than DVD players were at the same point in their life time. Two years on we saw DVD players dropping below $200 and DVD drives for the PC dropping below $80. HDTVs still are not in most house holds. I have one, but the rest of the house has SDTVs. My HP can play blu-ray via an external drive (thanks to dedicated graphics, unlike my MacBook), but my MacBook can only read DVDs. So, realistically, what are people going to choose? A $40 upscaling DVD player that makes their DVDs look as good as their HD cable on their $400 Wal-Mart 720p LCD set? Or a format with a player that costs more than their TV did with discs that cost an average of twice as much as the same movie on DVD?
I'll give you the fact that the low end PS3 can't emulate PS2 games, but it CAN play PS1 games. And the high end does both! So half point for you.
What high end model? Here in Southern California (and nearly every online store) the only model available new for almost this entire year so far has been the 40GB PS3. There is no "high end" model any more.
So the low end model can play PS1 games. Big deal. PC emulators for the PS were available more than 10 years ago.
Which some people say is the XBox. But I don't know so I'm not going to get into that. They look the same to me.
As you conveniently ignored, I pointed out that CoD4 runs flawlessly at high settings on my GeForce 8400M GS. CoD4 is just a really well written game and it honestly doesn't look particularly realistic. Well, the environments do. But the character models sure don't.
Anyone who says the Xbox360 is weaker than the PS3 needs a refresher course in computer architecture.
You keep mentioning GRID in the same paragraph with GT5P. Why? You want cars but choose GRID over GT5P.
I want race cars. I don't want VW Bugs, I don't want every model Honda Civic ever made. I don't want trucks. I don't want the Mini Cooper. I want good racing cars.
The problem with Gran Turismo is that it has every Japanese car ever made. It barely includes any Euro or American cars. And out of the Euro and US cars it does include, it has a bunch of crap like station wagons, trucks, the Model T, etc.
You want realistic damage but GRID doesn't have realistic damage either.
Heh, I think its about time you actually download the GRID demo. Let's say you misjudge a turn in GRID and your car's right front side goes full force into the wall. The body breaks up and off like it would in real life, and your tire gets jacked up, like it would in real life, so it throws off your handling.. just like it would in real life. Run head first into a wall? Your cars toast, just like in real life.
And you want a game that has cars that handle like cars. Well, you can just throw GRID out the window with that one.
Have you ever driven a real car? Look at Gran Turismo for a second. If you're driving a REAL car and not an Asian car in the game, you basically have to come to a stop at every turn, otherwise you'll fishtail and spin out of control. Real cars don't handle that way. In Gran Turismo you can take short cuts across the grass and dirt and not spin out. That doesn't happen in real life with real racing cars. In Gran Turismo you can take turns at full speed and just crash into the car ahead of you and use them to keep you on course as you take the turn at full speed because theres A) no damage and B) the physics aren't realistic and force of the car doesn't push both off course into the wall or turf.
You want real race cars? Is the F2007 real enough for you?
Maybe if Gran Turismo played like a real racing game. Oh and it had a realistic sense of speed too! I remember back when I was a GT fanboy and in love with GT3, an Xbox fan rightfully compared the speed in GT to riding on shopping carts. Heh, its true. Going 200MPH in Gran Turismo is about the same as doing 60MPH in real life.
And hate to break it to you but there are Minis in Forza too.
Yeah but you don't have to race stupid cars like that 20 times just to advance in the game.
And I didn't need a Mini to play GT5P, so I don't know what game you're playing.
If the final version of GT5 is anything like previous games, you'll have to race the mini about 10 times with 10 different configurations to advance. As well as other ridiculous cars, trucks, etc.
You really have no clue at all.
Sorry, I've been playing Gran Turismo since long before it became popular. I know how the game works. I know how unrealistic it is.
Why do you come into threads about the PS3? People don't go into the XBox threads to bash the XBox. (At least not respectable people.)
Why don't you do us all a favor and leave the Console Forum for good.
Telling the truth isn't bashing or flaming. I'm sorry if you can't handle facts.
No need to flame. Its clear he really can not make a rational argument, his reply to my post was the icing on an ignorant cake.
Comments like that show that you're wrong and don't have any way to come back at the others counter argument.
The PS3 still does emulate most PS2 games though. (Of course regions may vary.)
The 40GB PS3 is the only model in production as of now. It does not play PS2 games.
1. Its very badly, about 50 games actually work, and 2 of them are Halo >.>
Heh, 50 games? You're funny. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilitygameslist.htm Just about every Xbox game ever made runs on the Xbox360. The Xbox360 will even run games that are both it and the original Xbox! Half-Life 2! Call of Duty 2 and 3! Lego Star Wars!
Funny how Microsoft continues to update Xbox compatibility yet Sony completely backed down on their word. One year they're making fun of Microsoft for using software emulation and saying that Playstation 1 and 2 games will live on forever through backwards compatibility and that backwards compatibility is paramount to their strategy.
A year later they're saying that nobody wants backwards compatibility any more and that its not important.
Typical Sony. Just like how they pulled all of the features from Gran Turismo 4. Just like how they pulled all of the features from the PS2 HDD with no warning. The list goes on and on and on.
What games do you want to play that were on XBOX? That system was terrible!
Multi-platform games were better on the Xbox than Playstation2. Besides Ratchet and Clank, what exclusives did the PS2 have that were mentionable? Gran Turismo? That all ended with Forza 1. Final Fantasy? FF 10 and 12 were so bad that I was in tears from both being bored and laughing at the games. I seriously laughed at loud at just how bad both games were at points.
The Xbox had better versions of PS2 games (the GTA3 trilogy was better on the Xbox), it had PC ports (Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Unreal, KotoR), and it was the exclusive home of the second most popular franchise of the previous generation, Halo.
The Xbox outsold the GC but didn't catch up to the PS2 obviously.
So lets go over it one more time. Better exclusives (Halo, Forza, PC ports), better multi-platform games (nearly every 3rd party game, and the GTA games as well), plus it laid the frame-work for what we have today in both the PS3 and Xbox360.
Oh and it has one feature that the PS3 STILL doesn't have.
System/game-wide custom soundtracks.
The PS3 used to actually have a PS2 Chip inside, then they removed it, but used software emulation, with a roughly 70% Success of the PS2 game working, then the 40Gb had Software emulation removed too, for unknown reasons. All PS3's play PS1 games perfectly.
Actually, the first two PS3s had both the EE and GS.
Later PS3s removed the GS but kept the EE. So it was very much like the PS2 was with the PS1. The PS2 kept the PS1 CPU and that took over for the main processor, and the GPU did all of the graphics work. It was the same with the PS3. The EE would do all of the main CPU work for PS2 games and the GPU in the PS3 would do the graphics work.
Its really stupid that Sony did that because the PS2, for years now, has had the EE and GS on one die. So they essentially went with a more expensive solution with the PS3.
But anyway.
But the Xbox360's software emulation is better than what the PS3 did. All Xbox360 games get upscaled to 720p and 4x FSAA is applied.
Honestly, I was a big PS fanboy back in the day. But looking back on it now, I should have went with the Xbox. Same games with better graphics. Better games not available on the PS2. I stuck with the PS2 because of the sequels to PS games. I also wanted to play the FF games because I had been a big fan since the NES days. But sticking with the PS2 was a mistake. The PS sequels didn't turn out good, Final Fantasy went down the crapper, and the only noteable series was Ratchet and Clank.