PS3, or 360

[Epicurus]

I'm not exactly eager to jump into a PS3 vs. XBOX war, but there are a few things I'd like to say on the topic. Let me first say that I own PS3 (60GB) but not a 360. My only time with the system has come in short stints at the Best Buy.

With regards to the game libraries, I have a feeling that the exclusive games that have defined previous generations of systems are a thing of the past. The PS3 might have the massive PS2 back catalog, but that will only float a next-gen system for so long. The 360's head start won't matter for much longer either. On paper, I would call that a draw. Personal preferences will define your choice, so my love for Metal Gear pushed me to the PS3.

The PS3 controller is by far the one I am most familiar with, so I know I'm biased, but it seems to me that this too is a personal preference. Seeing how worked up some 360 people get about D-pad placement, it is obvious that my choice is not universal. I've been using a DUALSHOCK since the original PlayStation, so I'm completely used to it.

For me, aside from a mild distaste for Microsoft in general (they do make nice mice, however), an otherwise ambiguous choice was made clear by a single game. Nothing else really mattered in the end. While I'm waiting for MGS4 I still get Assassin's Creed and GTA IV, so its a win win.

 

[timmillwood]

i think it is all down to the games, i have always been a playstation guy, but there are just not enough FPS games out for it. Yeh resistance looks good but thats the only one which i cant get on my 360.

Xbox live is awsome, much better than the PS2 online system, havent tried the ps3 online though.

 

[asxtb]

Japan != the rest of the world.

It is an opinion, but having used both the SixAxis and the 360 controller extensively (I own both consoles) the 360's feel more comfortable and they're easier to press in my eyes.

What are you talking about? Crooked? Unless you're already some sort of mutant you shouldn't have to hold it crooked. I hold mine straight.

No, Japan isn't the rest of the world, but neither is Europe. Jimmi said PS3 controllers don't have rumble. Well he's wrong. Just because they aren't available near him doesn't mean they don't exist.

And yes, it is all opinion. That is what I have been saying.

And crooked isn't the correct word. But if you are playing a game where you use both analog sticks at the same time. Your thumbs are one two different levels. And the games I play I use either the D-Pad with the buttons or both analog sticks. Because of that I think the PS3 controller is better. Again this is my opinion.

The PS sticks don't work. they're in a horrible place. The controller just sucks. The XBOX sticks are intelligently designed. Why? because you use the left stick more than the d-pad and you use the buttons more than the right stick. With the PS3 you have to contort your left thumb to use the stick because you never use the d-pad. Four shoulder buttons is a dumb idea. Two shoulder buttons and two triggers is great design. Labelling your buttons with shapes to be different is also lame. Adding two extra buttons (with dumb names--black and white) is a great idea. Having your start and back buttons in a reachable location (XBOX) is a great idea. Overall, the XBOX controller is just far more comfortable.

I use the d-pad more than the analog stick. The few times I do use the analog I use both at the same time. And as mentioned above the 360 controller puts your thumbs at different levels while the PS3 controller keeps them at the same level. For me that is a plus for the PS3 controller.

And as I've been trying to say this whole time... I don't care who prefers what. If you like the 360 controller, great. But don't go around claiming that it is a fact. I prefer the PS3 controller. Don't tell me I'm wrong! The OP even said he likes the PS3 controller. So why are people coming on here and basically saying he is wrong and the 360 controller is better. Same goes for looks. People need to stop telling others their opinion is wrong.

 

[0098386]

Nintendo... lost it years and years ago. The N64 was neat if you were 10 when it came out, the Gamecube was a disgrace to the video game market (as were its controllers)

Whoa! This chap should provide us with some fun in the future first off the N64 came 2nd in the market, the Gamecube was inches behind the Xbox which was actually advertised, could output HD, had a HDD and larger 3rd party support etc...

and the Wii...well it's an interesting concept and it's cheap (it had to be both or Nintendo would have went under by now), but it can't be called a video game system. It's in a league of its own (good or bad, I don't know).

It's... not a video game system? See that stream of pure light darting from your window? That was your respect in these forums. The Wii has double the 90+ rated games than the PS3. Yet it's not a video game system... lol.
Nintendo were never going to lose either. I don't know if you've heard about systems called the GBA, the DS? They walk over consoles.

Troll aside. These threads are easily summed up by - look at the exclusives and upcoming games. Compared features of multi system games like GTA4's downloadable content for the 360 (none of PS3) and keyboard/mouse feature of the PS3's Unreal Tournament.

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Okay, so let's pretend I can just go out and buy a rumbling PS3 controller now. I buy it from Forbidden Planet or any other import shop and I'm all good to go. I boot up the PS3 and put in which game?

As for the triggers, every other system decided to curve the triggers in, so there is a groove to rest them in. Likely inspired by the trigger of a gun. Since it promotes ergonomics by complimenting the shape of a finger. Sony, for whatever reason, decided to go against this and make them curve outwards. This isn't an opinion, it's a design flaw.
The placement is opinion since different games use different input methods. The games I play on a console (3D ones) like to use analogue sticks. The Virtual Console controller is okay because it's main priority is playing 2D games so the Dpad is in the left position.
needs it's own thread.

 

[zap2]

No, Japan isn't the rest of the world, but neither is Europe. Jimmi said PS3 controllers don't have rumble. Well he's wrong. Just because they aren't available near him doesn't mean they don't exist.

They're not available anywhere, BUT japan. So as far as I'm concerned, the PS3 lacks rumble. And will continue to lack it until the Dualshock 3 is for sale in the USA, because once its for sale in my territory, it has those features....for ME, and any other person in the US buying it. Same thing for people in Europe and anywhere else!

 

[zap2]

Nintendo... lost it years and years ago. The N64 was neat if you were 10 when it came out,

All those 10 year olds LOVED GoldenEye! The 20 year olds however, thought it to kiddie

the Gamecube was a disgrace to the video game market (as were its controllers)

Really? Because I had the time of my life on it? RE4? Super Smash Bros Melee? Mario Kart Double Dash? Star Wars: Clone Wars?

=, and the Wii...well it's an interesting concept and it's cheap (it had to be both or Nintendo would have went under by now).

No, Nintendo could have made something which lost them money, they have NGC money and DS money(which is a boat load of funds!) They are the 3rd biggest company in Japan, before the Wii, they were still big.

but it(Wii) can't be called a video game system.

Um...yes it can. Your honestly crazy if you think this..

 

[asxtb]

....

Ok, if you say so....

I'm done here.

 

[spyker3292]

Okay, so let's pretend I can just go out and buy a rumbling PS3 controller now. I buy it from Forbidden Planet or any other import shop and I'm all good to go. I boot up the PS3 and put in which game?

I think I heard games like Ratchet and Clank and Gran Turismo Prologue have rumble.

 

[2nyRiggz]

You guys really need to stop all this hating....just let it go and enjoy your console instead of talking smack just because.

To answer a question yes majority of the big titles have rumble now...the rumble update was sent through 2.0 so just kill that right there.


Once again I'll answer the op question without going overboard about which suck and whats doesn't...

OP pick the console with the games you like....it can't get any easier that that.

Same thread shows up and we all go into a frenzy...


Bless

 

[Mac OS X Ocelot]

I use the d-pad more than the analog stick. The few times I do use the analog I use both at the same time. And as mentioned above the 360 controller puts your thumbs at different levels while the PS3 controller keeps them at the same level. For me that is a plus for the PS3 controller.

And as I've been trying to say this whole time... I don't care who prefers what. If you like the 360 controller, great. But don't go around claiming that it is a fact. I prefer the PS3 controller. Don't tell me I'm wrong! The OP even said he likes the PS3 controller. So why are people coming on here and basically saying he is wrong and the 360 controller is better. Same goes for looks. People need to stop telling others their opinion is wrong.

The xbox controller doesn't put your thumbs on different levels because you have your right thumb on the buttons, not the stick. Who uses two sticks at once, except for rare occasions in some games. I like the xbox controller's setup because the stick you use is on the top and the buttons you use are also on the top. The stick you don't use much is on the bottom and the d-pad, which everyone but you doesn't use as much as the stick, is on bottom.

Whatever the hell rage you have built up over stupid video games should not be vented at me. I never claimed anything as fact. I laid out the intelligence behind the xbox design and gave my opinion. Did I say you were wrong? I said there's sense behind the xbox controller for most of us, whereas you claimed as fact that it made no sense.

 

[Mac OS X Ocelot]

I was unaware that sharing opinions with a bunch of other people whose opinion means no more, no less than mine was trolling. And thanks for the respect update; I for one certainly look towards you for my level of respect in a mac forum, especially when it's about a video game thread.

 

[michaelltd]

...the Gamecube was a disgrace to the video game market (as were its controllers)...

Personally, I give that honor to the Virtual Boy.

 

[Antares]

Well, I personally think the PS3 is a better system than the 360 in many ways. Which is one reason why I own both a PS3 and a Wii. However, I have never been a fan of the Playstation controllers. To use the left analog stick, I have to move my hand into a somewhat uncomfortable position. I don't think that I could play a really long time with the six-axis. My left hand stated feeling a wee bit uncomfortable after only an hour of Assassin's Creed, last night. The 360 controller is nice and comfortable, though....I'll give the 360 kudos to that. However, I still think the Gamecube controller is the most comfortable of any controller ever made. It just melts into your hand and you simply forget it's there....I could play for hours and hours without a single bit of discomfort. The only issue with the Gamecube controller was the tiny d-pad....otherwise, it could be considered the pinnacle of traditional controller design.

We're getting a bit off topic here so I'll just say that the PS3 is a great system with a "meh controller." The 360 is a "meh system" with a very good controller.

 

[MRU]

You guys really need to stop all this hating....just let it go and enjoy your console instead of talking smack just because.

It's always the same mate.... do ye fancy leaving this thread and getting drunk instead ?

 

[spyker3292]

Wow... I didn't know people had high controller preferences. I don't care, as long as it works... (and about the "Your thumb is usually on one stick [in reference to the 360] except for a few games", you mean a few games like all FPSs and quite a few more too?)

 

[MRU]

Wow... I didn't know people had high controller preferences. I don't care, as long as it works... (and about the "Your thumb is usually on one stick [in reference to the 360] except for a few games", you mean a few games like all FPSs and quite a few more too?)

Driving games perhaps ? Or sports games for the most part ?

 

[pgc6000]

Oh boy, in tradition this thread has gone of course to an argument about Nintendo...how do we always manage to get from something like the PS3 and 360 to the N64 being a disgrace? I'm half ready to start a thread dedicated to whether Nintendo has gone downhill or not just to be spared of this in every console comparison thread we have. Not trying to lash out at anyone here, but seeing someone rag on Nintendo then being followed by a page and half of posts in its defense is getting, shall we say, old? And a waste of time. Bliss is right. Lets enjoy our damn consoles, give our opinions in a RESPECTIVE manner, and play video games for their core purpose, to be fun. Sure a little geeky argueing and debate is fun, no harm in it, but it always seems to escalate to, somehow, Nintendo.

Now, sticking to the thread, I think the 360 controller is luxurious. The 1st time I felt it late 2005, all I could say was "Wow". I don't think the PS3 design is so bad, but compared to the 360 it's a little chunky. I'm thinking of picking one up this holiday season though. Having all 3 consoles right when the New/Current Gen would be nice, having a the complete collection to face 2008, 2009, and probably 2010.

Oh and MacRumourUser-Bring on the brews!

 

[MRU]

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Oh and MacRumourUser-Bring on the brews!

I would do but the lousy ba****s barred me. Guess I shouldn't have spit back the peanuts Oh well back to mine for a barrel or two

 

[JackAxe]

So, did you spit out the peanuts after hearing about the bathroom contamination thing?

<]=)

 

[michaelltd]

I kinda prefer the 360 controller over the PS3 one, but I am fine with both for the most part.

I think the 360's D-Pad is pretty bad though and the PS3's trigger buttons are in that same boat. They feel cheap and loose.

 

[spyker3292]

I kinda prefer the 360 controller over the PS3 one, but I am fine with both for the most part.

I think the 360's D-Pad is pretty bad though and the PS3's trigger buttons are in that same boat. They feel cheap and loose.

I agree about the triggers... maybe the DS3 will fix it.

 

[GFLPraxis]

I was unaware that sharing opinions with a bunch of other people whose opinion means no more, no less than mine was trolling. And thanks for the respect update; I for one certainly look towards you for my level of respect in a mac forum, especially when it's about a video game thread.

Jimmi wasn't exactly polite, but you DO realize that you came on this thread with a MASSIVE flamebait, right?
"N64 was neat if you were 10, GameCube was a disgrace to the market, Wii isn't a gaming system, Playstation's controller is horrible and sucks"...
N64 was my favorite system of the era, it IMHO had a much better games lineup than the Playstation or Saturn.
And GameCube was the console I played the most of that era; it had better graphics than the PS2, and the only disadvantage was the lack of online play, which I didn't care about since I used my PC for online gaming.
And Wii is the most popular system of this current generation.

You massively overgeneralized about three platforms that a lot of people enjoyed, calling one for kids, the second a disgrace, and the third not even worthy of being a video games system.

Can you honestly tell me you did NOT expect anyone to respond in kind? All Jimmi did was argue against your four claims (N64 sucked, GameCube sucked, Wii isn't worthy of being a games system, and Nintendo was in danger of going bankrupt) and call you a troll.

If I went into the iPhone section and posted about how the iPod was stupid, the iPod Shuffle is for little kids, and the iPod Nano isn't worthy of being called a music player...I think I'd get a LOT harsher response than "you're being a troll."

Consider yourself lucky that Jimmi was the only one that came down on your head this time, and consider your words more carefully.

And Jimmi, be nicer

Personally, I give that honor to the Virtual Boy.

No argument there.

 

[sikkinixx]

*sobs* shouldn't be just ban these topics? nothing good ever comes of them

 

[Antares]

*sobs* shouldn't be just ban these topics? nothing good ever comes of them

Didn't we used to have a console war thread where people could say all the stupid, flame causing garbage that they would ever want to spew forth?

It's fine to have an opinion with topics like this one...however, why must some people resort to the posting of pure insults and false information? Can't people be more mature and engage in a real debate? Making jokes and being sarcastic is one thing...but flaming is not conducive to achieving anything.

I bought a PS3 because of x reason. You should get a PS3 because of this. I don't want an Xbox 360 because of Y. I think an Xbox would not be the best purchase for you because of these reasons...etc.. Simple and to the point.

 

[e²Studios]

They're not available anywhere, BUT japan. So as far as I'm concerned, the PS3 lacks rumble. And will continue to lack it until the Dualshock 3 is for sale in the USA, because once its for sale in my territory, it has those features....for ME, and any other person in the US buying it. Same thing for people in Europe and anywhere else!

I have a package sitting at my house that contains a DualShock 3 controller, I also live in the US.

A bit ignorant to say "if i cant touch it, it doesnt exist", the DS3 is very real and it works fine with games already released in US/EU territories.

This whole console debate thing is old, just play what you like and enjoy it. Its the same people saying the same things over and over, and its the actions of certain individuals on why I refuse to post here as much as I used to.

Besides, in a couple days all you bleeding heart Nintedo fans will be crying when you see the Japan sales numbers. Here is a hint the Wii isn't #1 anymore, its by more than a 2:1 ratio, & its during a week of a huge Nintendo software release (Mario Galaxy)

Ed